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Ok so how would you guys front load the first 4 weeks with Testosterone enanthate and Boldenone (equipoise) if after the front load you wanted to maintain dosages at 600mg testosterone enanthate and 800mg Boldenone for the remainder of the cycle,

maybe 300mg test e and 400mg equipoise every other day for the first 4 weeks?
 
I like short ester stacks and oral overlays higher doses at the beginning seems too have a rollercoaster effect. My next blast will be test e deca and EQ plan on adding Npp and dbol first 6 weeks till the long esters kick in im cruising on 250 test e and i dont go over 500 mg or I have too eat adex like candy to stay dry

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ok, thnx for sharing lol, now does anyone wanna actually answer the question i asked lol
 
presser . I am no expert but after reading this. I have come to the point of doubling up the dose for the first week then do your regular dose from there on. Hope this help.

Frontloading Long Ester Testosterone to Reach Peak Test Levels First Week!
AAS Frontloading Explained

Steroid Front loading is a process to saturate your receptors with the peak dose from week one to ensure stable blood levels instead of it taking several weeks to peak like most long esters,this is why most people dont feel the effect of a long ester until its built up substantial amount in the blood stream, the problem can be solve by front loading which is doubling the amount of mg in the first wk,

When you inject AAS regardless of the ester a certain amount is released over the next 24-48hrs the only thing the esters does is extends the half life of the AAS it wont slow down the first initial release of the AAS,, so after the the first release of the AAS as mentioned above the reminder is released over a certain amount of time up to the half life,

Why wait for you to feel the effects or for it to kick in around wks 6-7, you would be better of getting the blood androgen level up sooner,spiking and working so you feel the effects of the AAS, If you work out exactly the level of active testosterone and the esterized amount waiting to be activated you will see the advantage of steroid front loading and the benefits -

The example I will show you is the first few weeks of a cycle what is not front loaded and one which is front loaded, please dont look to forward into the ester because its not really important to the final results other than dose difference, lets give an example of AAS with half life of 7 days -

Standard cycle of 500mgs per week

Week 1- 500mg used........After 7 days 250mg left - so active test delivered in that wk 250mg

Week 2 - 500mg used.......+ 250mg (left over) = 750mg - test active for that wk = 375mg

Week 3 - 500mg used.......+375mg (left over)= 875mg - test active for that wk=437.5mg

Week 4 - 500mg used........+437.5mg(left over)=937.5mg - test active for that wk=488.7mg

Week 5 - 500mg used........+488.7mg(left over)=988.7mg - test active for that wk=494.3mg

Week 6 - 500mg used........+494.3mg(left over)=994.3mg - test active for that wk=497.1mg

Week 7 - 500mg used........+497.1mg(left over)=997.1- test active for that week=498.5mg

And so on...............

Takes 7 weeks to get the full weekly dose of 500mgs

250mg in the first wk
375mg in the second wk
437.5mg in the third wk
488.7mg in the fourth wk
494.3mg in the fifth wk
497.1mg in the sixth wk
498.5mg in the seventh wk
Front loaded cycle of 500mg per week -

Week 1 - 1000mg used.......After 7 days 500mg left - so active test delivered in that 1st week 500mg....bingo!!!!
Then back to the normal dose of 500mg per wk, job done!

By the end of the first week you will achieve the peak dose as opposed to the 7th wk of a cycle not front loaded, 1 wk or 7 wks for peak blood levels? no argument really, you will have the benefit of the gear kicking straight away,without doubt this is an excellent way to achieve your goals and get the full strength of the gear kicking striaght away, remember the body grows at its best when its fresh which is noramally at the start of a cycle, cut the whole length down of the cycle and front load it, less time shutdown, faster stable blood levels at peak dosage, results striaght from the start, reason why many stay on cycle for many wks is because of when the gear starts to kick fully so why not cut the length down which will cut the time down for shutdown, with front load no need to stay on for so long,

Long esters and short esters can be used when front loading, long esters work better and should be doubled during the first wk of the cycle and the short esters should be doubled on the first day of the cycle but not that much in it tho!, this is due to the half life of short esters, a easier way around this would be - if you implement the rule of - with every standard dose you inject double each time you jab until you reach the first half life, this will ensure you wont go over the required amount and this will hit your peak blood levels in the first week, no unstable levels and straight away in the first wk you will be running the required amount,

Many like this method and many prefer kickstarting the front end of the cycle an oral i would say try them both and see which one you respond best to, I would advice anybody who likes running the standard length of cycle with long esters to try this method it may just change the way you cycle in the future.
 
spot on answer ham31 ! thats the kind of input i was looking for, and i did read that long ester steroids front loading article as well, and i think is a great piece of information! Now i was thinking maybe the first week doing your regular weekly dosing every other day, then the 2nd week doubling your regular weekly dose, then by week 3 just do your normal dosing, but i am pretty sure thats too much, and i thonk just doubling during front load is best option.

or ......lol.....

first week:

testosterone enanthate 1,8000mg
boldenone eq 2,400mg

2nd week

testosterone enanthate 1,200mg
boldenone eq 1,600mg

3rd week (regular dosing) until end of cycle

Testosterone enatate 600mg
Boldenone equipoise 800mg


Thats what I was thinking for this testosterone equipoise steroid stack
 
Presser with that much in your system what would the side be like. I try to avoid side at all cost.
That was a good read.

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Sorry should that not all get into your system in the second week then on to your weekly total to keep it stable. Just trying to get it right.
 
yeah it would get into me fast and surpass my regular dosages, i would actually be above what i wanna take from week 3 to end, which is ok, and the sides wouldnt be anything due to it being done just the one time in week 1 and then little less week 2, Anyhow, just tossing my ideas around lol,

idealy though i think just doubling your dosages for the first week or two would be the way to go,
 
For the record, regarding my frontloading equipoise, I got very sick from front loading equipoise and enanthate at the same time around this time , lmao, so be careful lol,

here is another decent run down on front loading:

Frontloading really doesn't mean running higher levels of steroids in the earlier part of the cycle. It means using a dosing protocol where levels almost immediately reach what will be the later steady-state levels of the drug. When not frontloading, and simply using the drug at the same dosing as will be used throughout it takes several to many half-lives for levels to build up to where they will ultimately arrive. Instead, one can inject on the first day an amount equal to that which is on average injected per half-life, plus what will be the ongoing dose. This will lead to fairly promptly having the same levels that will be the case throughout the cycle. If a drug's half-life is two days and the ongoing plan is to inject daily, then to frontload the first day's injection is three days' worth. If a drug's half-life is six days and the ongoing plan is to inject every other day, then to frontload the first day's injection is four times the ongoing amount. Because there would be 3 injections per half life so you would need to add another one. It's fairly common, when users don't frontload, the results would be minimal or difficult to detect in the first couple of weeks and even to some degree into the third week. This is particularly true with long-acting esters. Another factor is that rate of muscle gain isn't as high when starting from a higher level.

Some drugs which have relatively long half-lives. When such a drug is being used, then the amount in the system at any given time is not only that resulting from the dose just taken, but also a further amount that is remaining from previous doses. Therefore, by using a steroid cycle as an example, suppose someone is dosing 100 mg/day of a steroid which has a half-life of 7 days, and over the long term this is giving him the levels he wants. Once well into his cycle, after any given injection he will have in his system not only the 100 mg that he just injected, but another 700 mg remaining from the previous injections. So, if on Day 1 all he does is inject 100 mg, he won't have nearly the levels that his cycle, over time, will eventually produce. He would need to inject 800 mg to be in a comparable place.

Frontloading is the practice where a calculated larger injection amount is used on Day 1 to promptly bring levels to the same value that they would eventually stabilize at.The amount to use is the amount that is on average taken in one half-life of the drug, plus the injection amount that will ordinarily be used. So for example, let's say an individual is planning on using 600 mg/week of test e, taken as 200 mg three times per week. Considering the half-life at 5 days, then on average the amount taken per half-life (per 5 days) is 5/7 of the 600 mg. That works out to an average of 429 mg taken per 5 days. So the frontload amount is that amount, plus the usual ongoing amount of 200 mg. If being highly exact this would work out as 629 mg, but as 600 mg is a more convenient figure, this would be more than close enough. There's no problem in rounding up or down the number a little. So on Day 1 the injection would be 600 mg. This would not produce unusually high levels, but instead would promptly get levels to where they need to be. If not frontloading but just doing the 200 mg 3x/week schedule, even at the end of two weeks levels would still be building. Only by the third to fourth week point would they be nearly at their stabalized value.

Another good example would be EQ since it has a long half-life and so if there was no frontload, it takes a longer time for levels to build. This is why many say that it takes 6 weeks, or some similar figure, for it to show any effect. Actually EQ is capable of contributing well by the end of the first week, if the levels are there, but in the situations being referred to levels are not there due to lack of frontload. Due to the long half life of EQ, a large frontload is needed. The first injection be an amount equal to about 2.5 times the amount that will be used per week. So if for example the ongoing dosing will be 400mg/week, on the first day the frontload should be about 900-1000 mg. The dosing can either be split into a few shots per week or into the first day.

Most people don't do this, and as a result they experience little effect from EQ until many weeks into the cycle. For this reason, it's widely claimed that EQ cycles need to be long or otherwise they do not work, but this really is not so. Instead the problem is failure to frontload, or failure to fronload sufficiently.
 
I front loaded EQ!I'm 15 weeks into my EQ cycle right now. (1G/week)(500mg pinned e3.5d)First week, i doubled my dosage (2 Gram)Second week, i doubled dosed my first injection then went into regular protocol (1.5gram)Third week, 1 gram/week
 
Im not sure I follow how you front loaded your equipoise Boldenon , maybe its me lmao, anyhow, did you feel as though it worked well and that you reached your optimum levels sooner with the front loading
 
More half-lifes can be found here


Depot steroids Drug Active half-life

Deca-durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 14 days
Equipoise 14 days
Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) 10.5 days
Sustanon or Omnadren 15 to 18 days
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Testosterone Suspension 1 day
Winstrol (stanozolol) 1 day
 
I have this equation on how to frontload. But that's just overcomplicated. To make it easy. 2 first pins should be double the dose. So if you're doing a test prop cycle with 100mg eod. You pin 200mg first and 200mg second time. If you're doing a test ena cycle with 500mg e5d you pin 1000mg+1000mg first 2 times. So first time should be 1000mg and 5 days after that 1000mg. That's how we do it "here".
 
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