The Dude

MuscleChemistry Registered Member
I still see ALOT of confusion with some of the newer guys about what steroids do and what they don't. I though when you guys had a chance you could put up a quick summary of the drugs you've used and what you thought of them. I think the most common misconception is "such and such" steroid gets you ripped. Guys this just isn't true. Steroids do not have anything directly related to fat loss. Some seem to have some mild metabolic effects secondary to their anabolic activities, but no steroids burn fat... not like ECA or DNP.
That being said I'll start
Test E- my first steroid. Lots of bloating and more sides than any other test I've used
Test P- strongest MG per MG, least water retention, fast strength gains
Test C- middle of the road. This is my preferred version.
Test as a while should be the basis of any musclebuilding focused steroid combo. The only time I would not use it is to get as dry and hard looking for whatever reason.. even then I would only cut test out 3 weeks prior.
Deca- my main muscle builder. This is what I use an anabolic base drug for most of my cycles. It allows you to use more of the protein you eat... provided you eat enough.. if your diet sucks Deca isn't going to do much for you. Alot of the gym rat's don't like it for this reason. If your goal is to try to "blow up" and you don't know how many grams of protein you eat in a day, Deca is not for you. Deca also helps with joint damage and injuries. Definitely my favorite
 
EQ - This is a tough one. It is not Deca like as so many believe. It's like a test that gives your muscles a little added fullness. I use it, but only because I've been having difficulty getting Proviron and Masteron.
Masteron - the most underrated bodybuilding steroid. This drug is used in combination with test and an anabolic. It intensifies the positive muscle building effects of whatever it is taken with. It also minimizes bloating and water retention. It does have some muscle building effects, but this is for slow dense muscle growth.
Proviron - similar to Materon, but it seems less anabolic for me. It makes me even denser and harder than Masteron. Another highly under rated drug.
Tren - everyone hypes Tren and for good reason. It's bad ass. It will make you strong, hard, aggresssive, and it puts alot of muscle on. Unfortunately it is very hard on the body. Both physically and psychologically. It gives me tremendous anxiety and depression. It's the only thing I refuse to take for the sake of my marriage. If you can handle it, this should be in every precontest stack. This stuff hits fast and hard. After 10 days you know if it's real. Unfortunately this used to be very easy to get and make by using cattle implants. Fortunately our Government outlawed them.. you know so we would be safer with things like Tobacco and alcohol...
Winstrol - I wouldn't take this shit if it was given to me for free. My joints and tendons become very frail and sore and my body aches. In my opinion this is a worthless steroid.
Anavar - lots of people love this including my wife. It does absolutely nothing for me. I did 100mg a day for 6 weeks and saw nothing. I got it through my Dr from a compounding pharmacy. My wife gets crazy big and strong on 15-20mg a day.
 
Dianabol- the feel good steroid. This stuff gives me a tremendous feeling of well being and it makes me super happy... you can tell in the moon face it get after about 10 days. It will make you strong and personally I like it, but it bloats me really bad. I would use it as a jump start... if I ever completely got off AAS.
Anadrol - worthless for me.. literally nothing. I used 50mg a day for 3 weeks and didn't gain a pound. Gave the rest to a friend who then gained 20lbs in 4 weeks. I didn't get any strength increases or anything else.
 
Thanks for your take on these! I have looked up the individual drugs over and over again, but your comparison of them to each other is priceless.
 
EQ - Proviron - similar to Materon, but it seems less anabolic for me. It makes me even denser and harder than Masteron. Another highly under rated drug.
Tren - everyone hypes Tren and for good reason. It's bad ass. It will make you strong, hard, aggresssive, and it puts alot of muscle on. Unfortunately it is very hard on the body. Both physically and psychologically. It gives me tremendous anxiety and depression. It's the only thing I refuse to take for the sake of my marriage. If you can handle it, this should be in every precontest stack. This stuff hits fast and hard. After 10 days you know if it's real. Unfortunately this used to be very easy to get and make by using cattle implants. Fortunately our Government outlawed them.. you know so we would be safer with things like Tobacco and alcohol...
Winstrol - I wouldn't take this shit if it was given to me for free. My joints and tendons become very frail and sore and my body aches. In my opinion this is a worthless steroid.
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Agree completly on Tren.........it is "divorse in a bottle" as someone on here stated before, but it is so bad ass!!
Winstrol agree to disagree for some like myself it is only second to tren for hardening....I have no issue with joint and tendons while on it however it kills my liver, so I only run it once a year.

Tren/winny I feel like a god that hates everyone and looks great!!
 
Agree completly on Tren.........it is "divorse in a bottle" as someone on here stated before, but it is so bad ass!!
Winstrol agree to disagree for some like myself it is only second to tren for hardening....I have no issue with joint and tendons while on it however it kills my liver, so I only run it once a year.

Tren/winny I feel like a god that hates everyone and looks great!!

I don't know of anyone that has had my lack of results from Anavar, Winstrol, and Anadrol. I can't imagine what the issue is.
A short time ago a prohormone company made Boladrol.
That stuff was THE SHIT. It made me brutally hard, strong, dense, and I gained like 10lbs in a little over 2 weeks. Somehow all the water was intracellular. I've never gotten so strong and big so fast. I saved a few packets, but I made the poor decision to give them to someone.. who then didn't bother to train while taking it. Really burned my ass. I had a Log on here from when I was using it.
 
Dianabol- the feel good steroid. This stuff gives me a tremendous feeling of well being and it makes me super happy... you can tell in the moon face it get after about 10 days. It will make you strong and personally I like it, but it bloats me really bad. I would use it as a jump start... if I ever completely got off AAS.
Anadrol - worthless for me.. literally nothing. I used 50mg a day for 3 weeks and didn't gain a pound. Gave the rest to a friend who then gained 20lbs in 4 weeks. I didn't get any strength increases or anything else.

i was never a fan of dianabol, but maybe i would give it another go if i ever had the chance to, who knows, maybe just 15mg daily, im sure i owuldnt need much
 
Great Steroid Review to get off the ground here, if we can have all the anabolic androgenic steroids covered with a personal review from members with experience cycling said substance, we can make this a sticky thread for all the newbies!

I would like to take some of what the dude said and run with it, in terms of Bulking cycles, and Cutting cycles, since a lot of guys ask what steroid is for cutting and which is better for bulking. And while some steroids are better suited for certain phases of your training whether your bulking up or cutting down, the truth is you can cut and bulk on any steroid. It all comes down to your training, your diet, and your cardio!

Of course things like anadrol and dianabol would not be optimum for cutting, again it comes down to how you train, diet and prep, as some guys run anadrol precontest! its all about knowing your body and what works and how it works, timing, and well everything is relative!

Anyhow lets get some experienced guys review some other steroids!
 
Anyone else wanna give their personal steroid review? Its always good to have it in Layman's terms from one experienced user to one not so experienced

Now its not a steroid, but i will review Insuline-like growth factor-1 long r3 since its my go to daily substance that i believe is the absolute true fountain of youth!

So where to start for long r3 igf-1 ?

When should i take my igf-1 lr3, pre workout or post workout is one of the more prevalent questions i see, and truth be told, it doesnt matter, due to it being longr3 it will work the entire day, and help shuttle nutrients or more precisely help FORCE More than usualy nutrients into the muscles, this is what makes it ""insulin-like""

So for me, I like to take my IGF-1 lr3 45 minutes prior to training, followed by a shitload (4-5 packs) of flavored oatmeal (apple cinnamon, peach) then when i get to the gym, i will down a quick simple carb drink or food, it doesnt matter, and then during my workout, i will sip on a 50/50 protien/carb drink if available.

Once im done training, i try to force as much protein into my body as humanly possible!

This igf-1 protocol has served em well for the last 10 years. I have used IGF for over 13 or 14 years, and in various ways, and various times, and it took me a couple years to find what worked best for me, so for the last 10 years, i have been doing it the same exact way!

IGF-1 promotes collegen synthesis, and Tendons are made up of collegen, so you will have bigger, stronger, thicker tendons, and more imprtantly it will heal your tendons, many people have reported tennis elbow problems vanished after using igf-1 lr3 for a period of time!

I can Not find much science on igf-1 lr3 and Nerve repair or regeneration, however that is how I came to find igf-1 lr3 and the miracle it provided me!

after my last show many many years ago lol, I hit a nerve in my outer quad, and soon realized my quads was not flexing, when i wuld strike a pose and flex my legs, nothing and i mean NOTHING would happen, my quad muscle was dead! I went to numerous doctors, the last one being a specialist, and she told me that my quad muscle would never flex again, and that the nerve damage was 100% permanent!

An entire year went by, i still trained and still trained legs, though over the course of this year, my quad was still dead, I then talked to a friend who owns another message board like this one who said he heard of another guy who had this problem and solved it with longr3 igf-1 injections, and he pointed me to the post.

I then purchased 20mg igf-1 lr3 direct from gropep and started using it, i applied the igf-1 lr3 to the dead quad muscle and did so repeatedly for a month, and within this month, my quad started to flex again, I could barely tell it was flexing though as Atrophy had set in so bad that the muscle i was finally able to flex a little bit was very small, but it was indeed firing again when i would flex my quad!

Within another year of repeated use of the igf to the quad muscle, it was back as good as new! same size as the other quad and today it is actually the better looking quad of the two!

So for me, IGF-1 lr3 has been a God send, a true miracle!

I do not think the true potential of igf-1 lr3 has even been realized yet! This is why you hear so many guys and girls say it works for them in so many different ways, its just one of those all around amazing products! It heals, it promotes muscle, promotes fat loss by way of making the body burn adipose as energy when using igf-1 lr3, and it helps skin elasticity which to some of you younger guys and girls may now be a big deal lmao, but when you get older its a fucking big deal! lmao!


Anyways, thats my run down of igf-1 lr3, how i came to find it! and why i am such a big proponent of it!
 
I was scheduled to have a second cervical fusion about a week ago. The disc underneath my prior fusion had ruptured and was I'm impinging nerves. So much so that I had started losing strength in my right arm. I've been on IGF for about a month now and I have not only regained my lost strength, but I've gotten stronger... and for now... I don't need the surgery. The stuff is pretty amazing. We do alot of damage to our bodies, it's amazing that there is something out there that can aid healing and recovery in such a way.
 
for sure DUDE!

Come n guys, write up a review on your favorite steroid, experienced user information is priceless!
 
I forgot 1!!!
Test base or test suspension - this stuff is hard core. This is the preworkout all preworkouts aspire to be. You know those days when you go into the gym and you feel like you own it... like everything you pick up feels 50 lbs lighter. Taken about 45 minutes to an hour before training and you will feel like what you believe pro's feel like walking into their gym. Tremendous drive, focus, confidence, and aggression. No stimulant required... afterwards... several hours I would get flu like symptoms. Sometimes they could be pretty bad, but mostly bearable. You feel really wiped out. But if you can stick with it... and a good long acting steroid like Deca, you can build serious strength and muscle with this combo. This isn't suitable to use as your only test though... just as a kick start pre workout.. or maybe a few days when you first start if you're willing to do 4 injections per day
 
is testosterone base the same as testosterone no ester (TNE)? Anyhow, I loved TNE in oil! hit fast, and gave me that pre workout edge.
 
is testosterone base the same as testosterone no ester (TNE)? Anyhow, I loved TNE in oil! hit fast, and gave me that pre workout edge.

Nope. TNE (test no ester) is in oil. Test Base is in water. TNE is also usually dosed higher than Test Base.
 
Nope. TNE (test no ester) is in oil. Test Base is in water. TNE is also usually dosed higher than Test Base.

now i am thoroughly confused, TNE is Test No Ester, has nothing to do with whether its in oil or water, I can make TNE in water or oil if i so choose, so what im asking is what exactly is Test Base ?
 
ok after doing some research, i think....yes i THINk lol.... what you guys are calling test base is what i call Testosterone suspension, which is TNE in water, but im not certain exactly lmao, I do however know that TNE has zero to do with oil or water, as TNE is just Test no ester, so is what you all call test base just old school test suspension (water)?
 
ok after doing some research, i think....yes i THINk lol.... what you guys are calling test base is what i call Testosterone suspension, which is TNE in water, but im not certain exactly lmao, I do however know that TNE has zero to do with oil or water, as TNE is just Test no ester, so is what you all call test base just old school test suspension (water)?

Yeah, you got it, Test Suspension is Test in Water. PSL sells TNE as Test in Oil and Test Base as Test in Water, which is why I answered it that way...got PSL stuck on the brain. :)
 
Yeah, you got it, Test Suspension is Test in Water. PSL sells TNE as Test in Oil and Test Base as Test in Water, which is why I answered it that way...got PSL stuck on the brain. :)

ok thnx for the clarification brutha, it always confused me lol, the Base versus suspension, and then solution versus suspension, as i got yelled at here before for calling the water in TNE a solution, and was quickly told solutions are for orals only lol, suspensions are for injectables, and well some things just fucking confuse me lol, what can i tell ya lol,

anyways thnx as always great info cybersage
 
I will go back to the Tren-Used to stack it with Test E or Cyp....Not huge amounts but something along the lines of Test 600mg/wk (split 2x per wk) and Tren A at 400wk (split e/o/d)....Typical results for a 10wk cycle was 20 lbs with me keeping 50-75% of that AFTER PCT...The only drawback I always had was the Tren cough EVERYTIME I injected-No psych issues during or after. Followed this protocol for several years. Last year I substituted Tren E in lieu of the Acetate. Cycle was 10 weeks at 600mg Test E and 500mg Tren E weekly spit into 2 injections-NO TREN COUGH-EVER ;) Results were @ 18lbs gain-minimal BF increase-kept around 10.
Also I just turned 50 so I personally would always recommend the Tren. Just as a follow up I have previously used the usual suspects like Deca, EQ, Winny, Para, Anavar, Dbol always using Test as a base. Big believer in max 2 cycles per year with the minimum being time on=time off as far as running them consecutively. Just my 2 cents.............
 
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