Running the last of my PSL/new cyc. Anti E??

Metal85

Metal85

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So I started running Tren E again 2.5 weeks ago, 1/week, along w my TRT levels of Test E and wow I noticed a difference grappling today!
On a bad note this is the first time I have really noticed having a way shorter
Temper as usually I go pretty unaffected with anything.
Sitting at 195 from 190 already.
Anyone here take cialis for an anti e? If so how frequent and long do you run it?
 
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Tren is always awesome, waiting to start some myself, but Tren e has a reputation for giving sides more noticeably than tren ace since it stays in the system longer.

Cialis for an anti-e? I don't believe Cialis has any anti-e properties. What are you noticing exactly besides a shorter temper? Tren usually causes more of a progesterone effect which would mean you'd need an anti-p like Prami or Cabergoline.
 
I have done tren several times before but never had the short temper like this. I saw a study where cialis has anti estro benefits, not sure if its true or not though
 
I'd be afraid to have like high blood pressure or high heart rate all the time if it needed to be frequently taken
 
Cialis shouldn't raise your blood pressure. If anything, it would lower it because of its dilating effect on blood vessels.
 
BigZ said:
Cialis shouldn't raise your blood pressure. If anything, it would lower it because of its dilating effect on blood vessels.
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Yeah you're right, I don't know why I thought that. Def increase your heart rate though
 
Hey metal, Cialis works good for pre-workout pump at 10 mg. It is a safe dose to take daily. That dose is safe for anyone healthy to take. Heart rate get lower for less effort for blood to flow because of dilation.

As far as anti e. Goes if your trt which u have been on for a while if u have estro already in control tren shouldn't cause a problem at low dose imo! Just keep an eye on prolactin build up but estro in control always kept me from hearing from it.
 
actually it might have the opposite effect.. too much vasodialation and the heart has to work harder to keep the blood pressure up.. its not that simple.. for the most part its safe to run, but i dont go over 6mg a day myself
Muscle mechanic said:
Hey metal, Cialis works good for pre-workout pump at 10 mg. It is a safe dose to take daily. That dose is safe for anyone healthy to take. Heart rate get lower for less effort for blood to flow because of dilation.

As far as anti e. Goes if your trt which u have been on for a while if u have estro already in control tren shouldn't cause a problem at low dose imo! Just keep an eye on prolactin build up but estro in control always kept me from hearing from it.
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Yeah I have never had bad sides from Tren as far as any estro sides go, and I have run up to 800mg a week on top of a multitude of other things simultaneously.
I'll have to look into that dosage amount, always afraid that if you start cialis consistently, or even like every couple weeks that you will end up needing it to actually fuck, which I don't now. I have taken it for fun, and my saying was basically if you have gold, it can't hurt to have even more gold. haha. Meaning if it makes your boner even better what would it hurt. (why are boners different every time you get one? I have had like 982,000 at this point in my life and I think within that amount like 3 of them have been the same lol)
 
Cialis has no anti e properties. The study you're referring to would almost have to be purely anecdotal. Use the proper anti e or anti p product, rather than hoping someone will produce the same effect.
 
cloudstrife1218 said:
Cialis has no anti e properties. The study you're referring to would almost have to be purely anecdotal. Use the proper anti e or anti p product, rather than hoping someone will produce the same effect.
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lol I do, I was inquiring to see if anyone else had heard this
 
3J said:
actually it might have the opposite effect.. too much vasodialation and the heart has to work harder to keep the blood pressure up.. its not that simple.. for the most part its safe to run, but i dont go over 6mg a day myself
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Yes I know "too" much vasodilation causes heart to race to create pressure. But we taking about lower dose 10 mg. And healthy adults this isn't a problem or the case. Strong heart clear of restrictions doesn't struggle to create pressure. But I know what u mean. That is the stroke warning that comes with taking it.
 
The flushing that comes with viagra is from the vasodilation in arteries in face and nose. Also sinuses can get stuffy with viagra. But all can cause rapid pulse in order to get blood pressure enough to get blood thru because of vasodilation. Especially a weak heart
 
One other thing of interest on the subject is sinuses get stuffy from vasodilation and vasoconstrictors like Vicks inhaler, which is actually levo- methamphetamine (l-enantiomer) of methamphetamine.

Cool huh! Lol!

But the increased heart rate only occurs bad enough to mention in people with heart disease and vascular problems. Exercise does wonders for the heart and gives it strength. One of the dangers with stroke is that vasodilation occurs and heart can't keep up because their is a valve problem or something restriction blood so it can't get pressure and arteries can't fill and sudden drop in pressure can possibly create a stroke in empty arteries or heart will race and have an attack but then again I think cialis is safer for heart and blood pressure than "TREN"!!!


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Metal85 said:
I'd be afraid to have like high blood pressure or high heart rate all the time if it needed to be frequently taken
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cialis was originally created to for high blood pressure.
getting an erection was a side effect.
take 5mg ed to help with high bloodpressure.
 
My trt dr gives me cialis 20 mg and my regular dr for my other meds gives me viagra 50 mg. See trt dr next week wanna ask for 5 mg -10 mg a day for blood pressure. They both told me it wasn't high and there were better choices if needed to be treated
 
I also added tren (ace) recently after take a brake due to mental state from tren, I'm on a low to moderate dose of ace but I too notice the effects right away, it can be good and bad.. You just have to keep yourself in check and know how to channel it..

If you're gonna be rolling keep your ego in check and always show consideration for your partner, because you're not gonna be feeling on the level as they are..If you notice that you begin to gas out faster, take some Nasacort 1 hr to training, it will assist with breathing and oxygen transport..

Have fun and enjoy the ride, it can be fun and it can get real, like quick!
 
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