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    I'll be getting some Robolics primo depot this coming month and will be doing 200 test/200 primo due to my fucking eye issue some of you read about earlier this month. I may be adding injectable Winstrol to it but not sure when yet. My visit with the eye specialist about my macular degeneration may cause an increase in doses but chances are they will stay this way.
    I think there will be significant lean mass and leaning out on this regardless of it being a cruise. SUPER STOKED!!!!
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    I am very much looking forward to ur journal I was planning on a cruise of Primo and test mid winter
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    I'll keep it fairly updated. Not but once or twice a week I suspect. I'm ditching my low dose or tren right now because I just can't deal with the crappy sleep quality I get. It's fucking me up!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Man View Post
    I am very much looking forward to ur journal I was planning on a cruise of Primo and test mid winter
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    For now I'm on 250 test and 300mast. My favorite cruise to do. Perfect anabolic/androgenic ratio for me to run on long term. Makes me feel great.


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    I'm counting on winstrol being kind to my blood pressure considering my eyes. Anyone think it's stupid to keep doing small cycles like this??


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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSteel View Post
    I'm counting on winstrol being kind to my blood pressure considering my eyes. Anyone think it's stupid to keep doing small cycles like this??


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    I've never had winny really affect my blood pressure too much but I always take a beet root juice supp along with Hawthorne berry and celery seed extract year round.

    I have found I have my best look on lighter cycles like that and no where near the sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL1025 View Post
    I've never had winny really affect my blood pressure too much but I always take a beet root juice supp along with Hawthorne berry and celery seed extract year round.

    I have found I have my best look on lighter cycles like that and no where near the sides.
    I never have had issues either. Just trying to justify doing a month of injectable to myself lol I've never used injectable and I think I might love it


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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSteel View Post
    I never have had issues either. Just trying to justify doing a month of injectable to myself lol I've never used injectable and I think I might love it


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    Yeah so I'll probably use it with the primo and a tad of masteron. Should be dry as hell.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSteel View Post
    Yeah so I'll probably use it with the primo and a tad of masteron. Should be dry as hell.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FL1025 View Post
    Yea you will, have you used robo's Mast yet?
    Not quite. I have a bit saved up from the past right now. But I'm due for a re up


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    I never ran mast higher then test...but sure sounds tempting I usually run a 2-1(T-M)ratio
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSteel View Post
    Not quite. I have a bit saved up from the past right now. But I'm due for a re up


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    I'm a Mast E addict lol and I like that his is 200mg
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL1025 View Post
    I'm a Mast E addict lol and I like that his is 200mg
    Ah me too man.

    I just ordered my primo and winny so the count down is on!


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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSteel View Post
    Ah me too man.

    I just ordered my primo and winny so the count down is on!


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    250 test/200 primo started. Winny in a couple of weeks.


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    Aaaargh! I started the winny ahead of schedule yesterday. What can I say, I couldnt help myself and I wanted to get it out of the way before I move in with the gf.
    This morning.....



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    On my second day of the winstrol after starting back after the vial break. This is so far a very nice feeling little cycle, cruise or whatever you want to call it. Pumps are great and intensity is great. Primo inevitably building up and so far libido is fantastic. I was a little worried about what primo would do to it but so far no issues at all. Tons of citrulline every day can't be hurting either.

    A knot in my back has my neck kinda fucked today so I'm going to rest upper body a day or two and hit legs only which I probably need anyway. Otherwise I'm a happy camper


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    So far so good fellas. I'm looking forward to week 3 of the winstrol when it really hits high gear. I don't enjoy pinning every day but at the same time it's a fun cycle and the gear head in me likes knowing I have new drugs in my system every day lol I will probably throw in some TUDCA soon to make sure I stay healthy and avoid side effects. I don't handle methylation as well as I used to.


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    your probably already getting dry on the Primo and Winny lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL1025 View Post
    your probably already getting dry on the Primo and Winny lol.
    Not as much as I'd hoped but that's because I'm not as lean as I was last winny cycle. It'll do it's thing soon enough. I need to keep up with my water intake and I haven't been.


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    It actually takes longer to see the hardening from oil based winstrol based on this experience. It is of course a longer lasting version compared to oral so that makes sense. But having said that I'm seeing more effects the last 5 days or so and libido is outrageous as usual and strength is pretty great right now. I'm tempted to get another vial and do 40 days since it is less toxic slightly.


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    Yeah baby!


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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSteel View Post
    Yeah baby!


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    surprisingly the Test 400 is really smoothewith no pip
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL1025 View Post
    surprisingly the Test 400 is really smoothewith no pip
    Good to know. I love using this for trt especially for the tiny injections you can do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSteel View Post
    Good to know. I love using this for trt especially for the tiny injections you can do.


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    I have found I have my best look on lighter cycles like that and no where near the sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by comprar View Post
    I have found I have my best look on lighter cycles like that and no where near the sides.
    Best look for sure. Best gains... maybe, maybe not.


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    Upped it to 400 primo. AND winstrol is all gone :/ I may have gained a pound or two of muscle during the three weeks but I certainly didn't cut and that's okay. Although I do feel like I'm holding water right now for some reason. Could be dehydration. I'm not implying it's the winny for the record. I'm just saying it could be hiding some results but after all I wasn't putting 100% effort into this. I definitely enjoyed the strength and insane pumps and the libido boost as well so I still enjoyed the cycle.


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    Disregard last. I ended up increasing to 500mg primo.
    So...
    200 test E
    500 primo E
    Mk677 25mg

    Considering how to add in mast so that's in the future.


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    Mast adding it.
    I would add 600 a week at minimum.
    And it's no science to add it, u never even will know u on it from side effect standpoint!!!
    If on an ai be prepared to prolly not need it!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    Mast adding it.
    I would add 600 a week at minimum.
    And it's no science to add it, u never even will know u on it from side effect standpoint!!!
    If on an ai be prepared to prolly not need it!
    Oh yeah I know how to use mast, I really meant I'm deciding on what dose to use. Chances are I'll keep it at a very low dose just for SHBG and libido.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSteel View Post
    Oh yeah I know how to use mast, I really meant I'm deciding on what dose to use. Chances are I'll keep it at a very low dose just for SHBG and libido.


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    Primo and mast or both very mild.
    Unless u run them high enough they will not do much of anything but give shbg.
    Why not just use proviron for that?

    And the primo is 200 with no pip!
    I never heard of that. Wow!
    I know it's the weight of primo that causes pip over a certain amount!
    Most I know use primo depot 100 at everyday or eod to get enough per week and avoid to pip!



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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyJohn View Post
    I never ran mast higher then test...but sure sounds tempting I usually run a 2-1(T-M)ratio
    Mast higher than test awesome.
    Will keep u dry!
    It can also take away bulk gains too.
    So it depends what u looking for.
    In my opinion mast less than 600 a wk is a waste and unless u got a open road that is cheap it's not worth it to many.
    It is to me! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    Primo and mast or both very mild.
    Unless u run them high enough they will not do much of anything but give shbg.
    Why not just use proviron for that?

    And the primo is 200 with no pip!
    I never heard of that. Wow!
    I know it's the weight of primo that causes pip over a certain amount!
    Most I know use primo depot 100 at everyday or eod to get enough per week and avoid to pip!



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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSteel View Post
    Yeah I know, I'm on low mast all year usually for trt or cruise purposes. I rarely use it to its potential. I use it more as an ancillary really but if I had some more on hand I might increase it.


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    I am thinking of doing same.
    I love the anti e affect it has for me.
    What dose would u recommend of
    mast e with trt dose of 100-150 a week?

    If u have experience this way give me your thoughts.
    Just for anti e and shbg with trt dose

    I would like to try robo primo 200 of it doesn't hurt!.lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    I am thinking of doing same.
    I love the anti e affect it has for me.
    What dose would u recommend of
    mast e with trt dose of 100-150 a week?

    If u have experience this way give me your thoughts.
    Just for anti e and shbg with trt dose

    I would like to try robo primo 200 of it doesn't hurt!.lol

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    I would do about 200-250 mast with that dose. About 50% higher on mast than test is where libido gets better so I think that's a good ratio for me.


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    It's actually at 500mg a week now (the primo), with 200mg masteron and about 240mg test. Libido has reached new heights so it really sucks that my lady is going to Europe for 16 days. Looks like self love for 2 weeks Incoming Robolics Cruise!


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    I think I'm dropping a little fat lately. Can't say from the scale but my abs look and feel different lately. I can finally see my serrates (or however it's spelled) better again and lower abs are getting a bit more defined. I think my recent several restful nights have been a big help. I don't get a lot of sleep usually.


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    JS, tell me. I have enough primo to run a good cruise. I will use test at trt dose until bloods 100 mg cyp
    On primo I will use it thru bloods too
    Prolly at 3-400 a week.
    How long does it take for primo depot to be felt if noticed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    JS, tell me. I have enough primo to run a good cruise. I will use test at trt dose until bloods 100 mg cyp
    On primo I will use it thru bloods too
    Prolly at 3-400 a week.
    How long does it take for primo depot to be felt if noticed?

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    Okay holy shit. I haven't been this horny since my first couple of cycles. I'm literally beating off, then having sex, then beating off again a few hours after lol I didn't realize primo would be that strong in the libido area. Feeling great!


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    Looking good
    Hey thanks Presser. I need to bump the calories up since I've been at a deficit so long now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    Primo and mast or both very mild.
    Unless u run them high enough they will not do much of anything but give shbg.
    Why not just use proviron for that?

    And the primo is 200 with no pip!
    I never heard of that. Wow!
    I know it's the weight of primo that causes pip over a certain amount!
    Most I know use primo depot 100 at everyday or eod to get enough per week and avoid to pip!



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    Very seldom will I get a slight PIP with primo but I think it was from being a bigger than normal shot. I haven't done 3ml in a while. That's only happened a handful of times.

    I appreciate the subtlety of primo. Slow and gentle but unstoppable like a tank. That's how I view it. It also has immune system boosting properties at 100-200mg which I'm also using it for. I react really well anyway to low doses of aas so I think 500 Is fair for me personally. Masteron I almost always use solely for SHBG. So that's why I run it low.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSteel View Post
    Very seldom will I get a slight PIP with primo but I think it was from being a bigger than normal shot. I haven't done 3ml in a while. That's only happened a handful of times.

    I appreciate the subtlety of primo. Slow and gentle but unstoppable like a tank. That's how I view it. It also has immune system boosting properties at 100-200mg which I'm also using it for. I react really well anyway to low doses of aas so I think 500 Is fair for me personally. Masteron I almost always use solely for SHBG. So that's why I run it low.


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    What I asked for, is primo has a very heavy molecular weight!!!
    Anything over 125 mg crashes.
    Everyone I know that has gotten it to hold a little while at 150 mg or more they can't walk after a pin.
    It has nothing to do with carrier it's the weight of it!!!
    Almost didn t wanna put this up because I don't wanna confuse anyone with doubt or skepticism but I just didn't know if it called a 200 because some labs have a npp 150 but it days on vial 125 mg per ml for example

    I have never heard of primo 200 being true
    I know someone that had some but it has to be heated often to uncrash and it's painful think it's a 150 or 175 though.
    Just was wondering is all.


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    I have some 100 primo and some 125 and it sucks I have ace and depot.
    I have to do it a few times a week just to get to 400 mg. Lol!!!
    It sucks in alot of ways but with TRT bloods and running it through I can't take a chance without lab max to say the least with anything I will run up until and through bloods!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    What I asked for, is primo has a very heavy molecular weight!!!
    Anything over 125 mg crashes.
    Everyone I know that has gotten it to hold a little while at 150 mg or more they can't walk after a pin.
    It has nothing to do with carrier it's the weight of it!!!
    Almost didn t wanna put this up because I don't wanna confuse anyone with doubt or skepticism but I just didn't know if it called a 200 because some labs have a npp 150 but it days on vial 125 mg per ml for example

    I have never heard of primo 200 being true
    I know someone that had some but it has to be heated often to uncrash and it's painful think it's a 150 or 175 though.
    Just was wondering is all.


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