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    Afternoon Fellas'

    I've actually never frontloaded during any cycle I've run, and I've got a few questions for my fellow "MC brethren" here about doing so:

    1. Is it really necessary for the long-esters?
    2. If so, is it effective?
    3. What is the "proper" method for doing so?

    Thanks in advance all, I look forward to hearing your respective input & experience,
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    Yes it works well for long esters and we have a fantastic thread on it here somewhere breaking down the math showing / proving that you do indeed reach optimum levels much faster if done properly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    Yes it works well for long esters and we have a fantastic thread on it here somewhere breaking down the math showing / proving that you do indeed reach optimum levels much faster if done properly
    Right on man, if you happen to have a link to that thread I will definitely go give it a read!

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    I think frontloading is great. No its not necessary but it will help you get to your desired blood concentration levels much faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron-game View Post
    I think frontloading is great. No its not necessary but it will help you get to your desired blood concentration levels much faster.
    Cool, cool.

    So let's say for instance I would run, ehhh... I don't know "EQ" I guess and plan was to run, let's say for example 600mg/week; how would a solid "front-load" regimen/formula break down & look?

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    Quote Originally Posted by batemantx View Post
    Cool, cool.

    So let's say for instance I would run, ehhh... I don't know "EQ" I guess and plan was to run, let's say for example 600mg/week; how would a solid "front-load" regimen/formula break down & look?

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    I don't know off the top of my head. Let me take a look through some of my stuff.
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    I front load double doses for the first 2 injections.

    There are charting programs out there like this one (https://steroidcalc.com) that can help you dial it in better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaLife View Post
    I front load double doses for the first 2 injections.

    There are charting programs out there like this one (https://steroidcalc.com) that can help you dial it in better.

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    I havent found the thread yet, but ill look again, I can’t remember if it was in this forum or our articles forum.
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    Found this on another board, anyone agree/disagree with the given information?

    https://www.theironden.com/forum/thr...ontload.19167/

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    I have front loaded ALOT of times!!!

    My reason
    Say I got bloods or something I am lean and wanna get some muscle started
    Say I got 12 weeks but wanna stop gear or extra by 8 weeks.

    Test E
    Deca

    Front load first week prolly 1500 mg of both
    2nd week 1000 of each till 4th
    5-8 both at 750
    Go to cruise do bloods.
    This has worked fabulous and Deca done great but was lean lean at start and got really full no bloat

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    I have always front loaded and like to do so by combining esters..........for example using Ace and E to get up to a blood level very quickly.

    Then again you could think of using orals is really like front loading ( I know not the same thing, but in theory).
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellow snow View Post
    I have always front loaded and like to do so by combining esters..........for example using Ace and E to get up to a blood level very quickly.

    Then again you could think of using orals is really like front loading ( I know not the same thing, but in theory).
    NPP and deca

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    Wow after reading this I think I'm going to front load my deca. Will be running sust and dbol also so no real need to front load the test.
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    Yes, i agree with you guys 7 with your all points, i think this is right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacktail View Post
    Wow after reading this I think I'm going to front load my deca. Will be running sust and dbol also so no real need to front load the test.
    If u do just do 2 doses deca at same time in
    Your situation x2 first week.
    This will get deca going quicker

    Remember u have dbol like yn said that is form of loading

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    I front loaded my eq cycle for the first two weeks
    Still took me around week 10 to really see or “feel” a difference


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    So do you feel it's worth front loading deca when I'm also running sust and dbol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacktail View Post
    So do you feel it's worth front loading deca when I'm also running sust and dbol?
    U will get gains from gate from dbol
    Adjust your dose accordingly!!!

    But for deca not a bad idea to do 2x total weekly dose week one and 1/3 more week 2!

    It's up to U! With dbol I would not be so worried because I myself really gain from dbol, deca, and sust!!
    I can gain 20lbs but will need a cut after. Lol

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    Lol ya I'm looking for an old school bulk so I'm sure I will gain 20+ but will need to cut for summer.
    As always thank you MM!
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    I am a fan of front loading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PUMPED View Post
    I am a fan of front loading.
    I have really had alot happen in shorter times that deca and Eq are SO SAID to be ran!!!
    I have Front loaded and got ALOT of 8 weeks!!!
    If u guys would know somethings I do, but I know how i respond and what to what for!!!

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    Blacktail my best advice is this
    -On deca do first 2 doses in week one double amount.
    Example if u gonna use 500 deca a wk.
    Instead of 250 mon and 250 thurs
    Do 500 mon and 500 thurs

    Week two do 350 mon and 350 thurs

    Week 3 your dose will be set at 250 mon
    And 250 thurs

    On dbol dose according to what u see going on. Keep eye on estro!!

    I would use Nolva at 10mg a day thru whole cycle and add minimum Adex or Aromasin when needed.
    Something that works for me is nolva 10mg a day
    And adex 0.5mg at 2 to 3 times per week.
    In this cycle I prolly would just use nolva 10mg enjoy your gains and not add adex in till u either having water retention or problem getting limp!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    I have really had alot happen in shorter times that deca and Eq are SO SAID to be ran!!!
    I have Front loaded and got ALOT of 8 weeks!!!
    If u guys would know somethings I do, but I know how i respond and what to what for!!!

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    Agree. Knowing how you respond is key. I never lay our a front load plan and just take it week by week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    NPP and deca

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    Perfect example others I like to use is Test P and Test E and Tren A and Tren E.
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    The sooner the ester peaks and growth rate spikes the sooner your myostatin is going to bring gains to a halt. It’s really pointless to use long esters if you’re going to front load.


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    Let the ester peak when it’s supposed to. Otherwise you could snag some NPP if you want a shorter cycle.
    I’m obviously the odd man out on this one but that’s my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSteel View Post
    Let the ester peak when it’s supposed to. Otherwise you could snag some NPP if you want a shorter cycle.
    I’m obviously the odd man out on this one but that’s my opinion.

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    It's all good.
    I just love short esters and not afraid of boosting up long ones. But tren e nope scared of that one!!! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSteel View Post
    The sooner the ester peaks and growth rate spikes the sooner your myostatin is going to bring gains to a halt. It’s really pointless to use long esters if you’re going to front load.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSteel View Post
    The sooner the ester peaks and growth rate spikes the sooner your myostatin is going to bring gains to a halt. It’s really pointless to use long esters if you’re going to front load.


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    Not if u gonna do less time!!
    I have noticed after being on since August I am still responding big time. But I am not trying to grow really much bigger.
    Just stay leaner and be bigger and I done that this round first time in 7 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    Not if u gonna do less time!!
    I have noticed after being on since August I am still responding big time. But I am not trying to grow really much bigger.
    Just stay leaner and be bigger and I done that this round first time in 7 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearheaded View Post
    running HGH year round like you have has probably helped you with this
    Agree!!! Since June been running and I am responding to milder stuff and stronger stuff too strong.
    If u try a bulker again dose will be low.
    In August I learned my lesson hgh changes the games especially in me at 42 I was responding to anything anymore.
    Hgh changed that and I am running the cheaper generics
    The high quality generics though. Atm blue tops!!

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