What y'all cruise at??

Muscle mechanic

Muscle mechanic

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Was just wondering what do u guys cruise at??
Or how long do y'all run TRT dose?

I myself like to run higher than TRT.
But long ester test seems to raise my blood count too much. I am looking into other things that don't that are pretty safe and not raise red blood cells.

Different combos with Lower test and I don't have blood cell issues.

Right now I am looking into primo with trt 150-200wk
And prop 35mg a day.
I am even using like 10mg trest ace a day to add to more test without more test than above...
Primo around 75mg a day
And wanting to try that DHB and lower primo to 50mg a day.
I rather not blast hard and not interested in tren much these days. Don't mind using a little hgh for benifits and IGF. But I just have that feeling that I had enough of too much gear...

So just milder runs and trt 150mg a week.
I wanna ask my Dr to put me on test prop 50mg Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

Allergies are killing my atm, and sinus headache too atm
Pollen getting bad and weather sort of changed this week.

So what do blast and cruisers do these days, share thoughts??? What u guys are doing?
 
My doc keeps messing with my dose it is currently 100mg a week. So I do 50 on sun and wed. Trying to keep the hbg hct down
 
Dieselmatt said:
My doc keeps messing with my dose it is currently 100mg a week. So I do 50 on sun and wed. Trying to keep the hbg hct down
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I am prescribed 100mg cyp a week but that made my red blood high, we talked about this.
For myself keeping test lower than 600wk on blast and using prop only do phlebotomy 1 x every 2 months

With test cyp only TRT or higher I Gotta do it every 4 to 5 weeks.

And since using hgh and t3/t4 I havent had to go but 5x this past year

I am off t3/t4 right now but still on hgh will go check and do phlebotomy tomorrow.

If it's high like 18-20 hemo, in am starting back t3/t4. There is a relation, i read alot and thyroid t3 gets oxygen to tissues.
Working out tissues need more oxygen.

Yes testosterone and other roid interfere with hepiciden production in liver but something else is going on with t3/t4.
Will see tomorrow. And retest my TSH and free t3 and t4 levels before restarting if I will.

BUT TRT dose don't cut it....
I often cruise with much higher and primo with mast or proviron.
DHB is my next victim.. trest I am finding gives me test affects at low dose and total test dose can be lower. And low trest 10-25mg a day hasn't caused spikes in red blood.

Bottom line is if I Gotta self treat thyroid if it fixes then I will....
I will stop when he orders thyroid test again and may be he will say I am hypothyroid thru pituitary signal (TSH)
I will see. I have stayed on TRT dose and got low iron stores and was put on iron due to phlebotomy every 4 weeks and my gains disappeared. Then finally coming back after years of that crap....

Bottom line is I produce no test and wasn't over 40 total t for long time unless on gear before TRT....



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blacktail said:
200 a week of test c. Thinking about also doing deca at 100 a week.
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Primo at a good dose 525mg a week fine with TRT. Problem is primo needs an androgenic counterpart to work and trt dose not enough, so I add trest for androgenic counterpart or mast or proviron...

When i do trt dose only it's 100 wk with prop 50mg MWF lol!! With primo at least 400mg wk....
That's as TRT dose as it gets. Before bloods I leave primo knowing if it's real and drop prop 6 days before bloods!!!

CAUTION!!! DECA WILL MESS WITH FREE TEST ON (ElA) lab test
And total test on (ECLIA) lab test
CAUTION WITH DECA
my Dr orders those above so no deca ester can be active at time if my labs!!

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Muscle mechanic said:
Primo at a good dose 525mg a week fine with TRT. Problem is primo needs an androgenic counterpart to work and trt dose not enough, so I add trest for androgenic counterpart or mast or proviron...

When i do trt dose only it's 100 wk with prop 50mg MWF lol!! With primo at least 400mg wk....
That's as TRT dose as it gets. Before bloods I leave primo knowing if it's real and drop prop 6 days before bloods!!!

CAUTION!!! DECA WILL MESS WITH FREE TEST ON (ElA) lab test
And total test on (ECLIA) lab test
CAUTION WITH DECA
my Dr orders those above so no deca ester can be active at time if my labs!!

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Is 4 weeks enough time before bloods for deca to clear? If not what would a good time frame be?
 
blacktail said:
Is 4 weeks enough time before bloods for deca to clear? If not what would a good time frame be?
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5 weeks? At 100wk??
U can always use npp instead.
That is why primo is best. Just confirm it's real.
DHB sounds like a winner too...
Mast will raise free test.
But 6 days prop esters clear for me
Npp not sure prolly 3 weeks my best guess to he safe.


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Muscle mechanic said:
I am prescribed 100mg cyp a week but that made my red blood high, we talked about this.
For myself keeping test lower than 600wk on blast and using prop only do phlebotomy 1 x every 2 months

With test cyp only TRT or higher I Gotta do it every 4 to 5 weeks.

And since using hgh and t3/t4 I havent had to go but 5x this past year

I am off t3/t4 right now but still on hgh will go check and do phlebotomy tomorrow.

If it's high like 18-20 hemo, in am starting back t3/t4. There is a relation, i read alot and thyroid t3 gets oxygen to tissues.
Working out tissues need more oxygen.

Yes testosterone and other roid interfere with hepiciden production in liver but something else is going on with t3/t4.
Will see tomorrow. And retest my TSH and free t3 and t4 levels before restarting if I will.

BUT TRT dose don't cut it....
I often cruise with much higher and primo with mast or proviron.
DHB is my next victim.. trest I am finding gives me test affects at low dose and total test dose can be lower. And low trest 10-25mg a day hasn't caused spikes in red blood.

Bottom line is if I Gotta self treat thyroid if it fixes then I will....
I will stop when he orders thyroid test again and may be he will say I am hypothyroid thru pituitary signal (TSH)
I will see. I have stayed on TRT dose and got low iron stores and was put on iron due to phlebotomy every 4 weeks and my gains disappeared. Then finally coming back after years of that crap....

Bottom line is I produce no test and wasn't over 40 total t for long time unless on gear before TRT....



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keep us updated on how al this turns out. I’d love to know what works the best without throwing severely increasing it.

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Muscle mechanic said:
Primo at a good dose 525mg a week fine with TRT. Problem is primo needs an androgenic counterpart to work and trt dose not enough, so I add trest for androgenic counterpart or mast or proviron...

When i do trt dose only it's 100 wk with prop 50mg MWF lol!! With primo at least 400mg wk....
That's as TRT dose as it gets. Before bloods I leave primo knowing if it's real and drop prop 6 days before bloods!!!

CAUTION!!! DECA WILL MESS WITH FREE TEST ON (ElA) lab test
And total test on (ECLIA) lab test
CAUTION WITH DECA
my Dr orders those above so no deca ester can be active at time if my labs!!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

Thats good to know, I was also looking to add possibly npp to my trt now I know not to have it in my system when I get blood work
 
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