PIP after a year

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cookie84

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I have been on trt / cycling for over a year and literally still have PIP every injection, I have tried a couple different brands, and all the tricks out there to help but still... everytime very sore knots in my quads... Can't pin glutes or I can't squat that week....

I heat the oil, inject slow "2 mins" rub it afterwards etc what am I doing wrong here!
 
Test E, Deca

also had pip with test c - tren e, eq, and tren ace.... have not tried delts that would be brutal if I couldn't lift my arm
 
cookie84 said:
Test E, Deca

also had pip with test c - tren e, eq, and tren ace.... have not tried delts that would be brutal if I couldn't lift my arm
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how much are you injecting at one time? is it high dose gear? could also be the gear has high ba in it. difficult to narrow down. does it happen with all gear you use and is it all from the same place or different ones?
you may just be one of those unfortunate few that gets pip regularly. i get pip quite a bit, and i've accepted it. sometimes none, other times a little, and sometimes more painful. the worst pip i've gotten and had to quit my workout was running tren ace and prop in my arms. it was the first time i ran anything in my arms, too. pump was hellacious as well. virgin muscle will most likely give a pip.
i'm running some now that i get pip most of the time with. i know it's a pain (pun intended), but that is how it is for me. hasn't been awful enough to make me stop, nor could i, because i no longer produce testosterone adequately on my own, and i prefer to feel good as opposed to the way i feel with low-t.
 
I'm lucky I dont have any or haven't as of yet. Not even from prop. I hope you can figure it out. I'm running dragon pharma and love it!
 
blacktail said:
I'm lucky I dont have any or haven't as of yet. Not even from prop. I hope you can figure it out. I'm running dragon pharma and love it!
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i've got some dp prop, i'm doing also. still a little pip. i also notice if i drink on gear i get pip more often. i imagine various meds may contribute to the problem. most of what i make myself isn't as bad as premade.
 
I am running Robolics gear right now... I inject about 3cc at a time ... I have run stuff from my Doctor... and Platinum Biotech .... ALL PIP
 
cookie84 said:
I am running Robolics gear right now... I inject about 3cc at a time ... I have run stuff from my Doctor... and Platinum Biotech .... ALL PIP
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Could you be tensing up the muscle prior to or during the injection. I get pip when I do that but that sucks that all the gear including your script gives you pip.
 
Sometimes I gotta use bigger ga because high pressure can cause it.
Or taking too long.
I do best least pain with 22-23ga 1" long and push it fast 30-45 sec.
2 minutes I would tense muscle.
Muscle gotta be relaxed and stay relaxed.

I tensed leg up lower outer thigh during pin. It was hard to push plunger and knew better. Volcano swole around hole right away and was red sore and swollen but cleared in 3 days.

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blacktail said:
I'm lucky I dont have any or haven't as of yet. Not even from prop. I hope you can figure it out. I'm running dragon pharma and love it!
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Dragon Pharma prop good stuff... me too
I don't get pip.
I am using DHB and primo with others.
Have Axos mast p 200 and all good.
Troy labs prop 300!!! And all good but doesn't take much to add In mix.
I always pin 3-4 kinds mostly cyp, primo, mast, DHB or Deca
Pip from DHB lasted 3 days or 3 pins worth in 3 days then done.

Be sure u hydrated and proper and mineral balance is there. If mineral balance off and not proper hydrated pip with exist even with hgh.

I have heard guys getting pip while on igf. Only bruising and pip while one IGF. Not many guys but s few

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Muscle mechanic said:
Sometimes I gotta use bigger ga because high pressure can cause it.
Or taking too long.
I do best least pain with 22-23ga 1" long and push it fast 30-45 sec.
2 minutes I would tense muscle.
Muscle gotta be relaxed and stay

I tensed leg up lower outer thigh during pin. It was hard to push plunger and knew better. Volcano swole around hole right away and was red sore and swollen but cleared in 3 days.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
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Wow 22-23ga! I use a 27.
 
Muscle mechanic said:
Dragon Pharma prop good stuff... me too
I don't get pip.
I am using DHB and primo with others.
Have Axos mast p 200 and all good.
Troy labs prop 300!!! And all good but doesn't take much to add In mix.
I always pin 3-4 kinds mostly cyp, primo, mast, DHB or Deca
Pip from DHB lasted 3 days or 3 pins worth in 3 days then done.

Be sure u hydrated and proper and mineral balance is there. If mineral balance off and not proper hydrated pip with exist even with hgh.

I have heard guys getting pip while on igf. Only bruising and pip while one IGF. Not many guys but s few

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
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good to know to stay hydrated, but that's a given, as well as mineral balance. always good to be reminded though.
 
blacktail said:
Wow 22-23ga! I use a 27.
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I use 25ga too.... but also 22-23ga and sometimes get less pain because it's hard to push plunger threw smaller ga.
I pin everyday too so I like it to flow. With tren ace I get cough only thru smaller gauge don't know why!!
But yes I prefer 25ga but when I run out tractor supply has boxes of like 25 needles for 6 bucks. Lol!!! But they only come in 22ga smallest...
But u do bend alot of 25ga in glutes reaching around and pushing thru scar tissue is tough.
My normal deal is order couple boxes of 3ml 25ga 5/8" and 23ga needles on own to draw!!

But sometimes pushing thru smaller gauge does cause me pain because by the time I get it pushed needle bent and tore stuff up in area. Referring to glute 3ml pins at time.
I pin lower outer thighs, hips, and glutes.
If i need another spot it's lats!! Delt??? LMAO!! That spot only good for 2ml max and is too scar tissueed up. I only use base or suspension in delt, seems to hurt less with water based stuff. Lol!! But PIN delt with igf
 
For myself the process of taking longer I get soreness.
I pin 3ml in 30 sec and g2g. If it takes longer than that muscle moving starts and it tears up things, that twitching of muscle from taking too long is like scratching inside there with that needle!!
Yes they say inject slow or how muscle is taking flow without pain during flow rate!!
I also know my hose has less pressure with nozzle open more!! When I close nozzle smaller more pressure comes out smaller hole on tip. So unless someone plan on pinning really slow without tensing up then the pressure will be higher from smaller gauge.
I prefer 25ga 5/8" and even can use 1/2" anywhere with no problems at all!! But alot of times it's just too slow thru 25ga and I tense up and it makes all worse.
I have had to call her to come in bathroom push lots of times if tensing happens and it takes my hand to hold pin and her 2 hands to push
 
I always used 22 gauge as well. I never heard of someone having post Injection pain (PIP) with everything they have used over the course of a year. I a interested to know whether you have figured out or remedied the issue and if so, how?
 
I have not still dealing with it and trying new things... I tried injecting fast and it made it worse... going to get some different gauge I am using 27g now and maybe thats the issue? gonna try 25 maybe 23?
 
cookie84 said:
I have not still dealing with it and trying new things... I tried injecting fast and it made it worse... going to get some different gauge I am using 27g now and maybe thats the issue? gonna try 25 maybe 23?
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Have you considered subcutaneous injections? I’ve never done them for injectable steroids , and have only done subQ with insulin, hgh and igf 1 lr3 but I know TRT clinics promote injecting testosterone this way
 
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