Best Strength Gear?

Whats everyones take on the absolute best strength gear... injections only as orals I seem to lose those gains pretty quick after......

I have tried Tren E, Deca, Eq, ..... another questions is because I know everyone will say Tren... how about 1.5G test e, a week solo vs 4-600mg tren + 500mg test.. a week

currently on 800mg test + 600mg deca, strength gains seem smooth and steady but nothing to get excited about... weight gain has stalled most likely due to crazy metabolism and just can not force feed enough food in.....


goals trying to make the Kern us open in powerlifting within 2-3 years from now .... 300 lbs away on my total ....

cookie84 said:

Whats everyones take on the absolute best strength gear... injections only as orals I seem to lose those gains pretty quick after......

I have tried Tren E, Deca, Eq, ..... another questions is because I know everyone will say Tren... how about 1.5G test e, a week solo vs 4-600mg tren + 500mg test.. a week

currently on 800mg test + 600mg deca, strength gains seem smooth and steady but nothing to get excited about... weight gain has stalled most likely due to crazy metabolism and just can not force feed enough food in.....


goals trying to make the Kern us open in powerlifting within 2-3 years from now .... 300 lbs away on my total ....

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Yes, tren has been the best for strength gains my rcperirnce. Since tren and orals are out I would go with what you suggested and bump the test dose up.

cookie84 said:

Whats everyones take on the absolute best strength gear... injections only as orals I seem to lose those gains pretty quick after......

I have tried Tren E, Deca, Eq, ..... another questions is because I know everyone will say Tren... how about 1.5G test e, a week solo vs 4-600mg tren + 500mg test.. a week

currently on 800mg test + 600mg deca, strength gains seem smooth and steady but nothing to get excited about... weight gain has stalled most likely due to crazy metabolism and just can not force feed enough food in.....


goals trying to make the Kern us open in powerlifting within 2-3 years from now .... 300 lbs away on my total ....

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If your goal is to put eat on size you need to eat and I mean eat BIG! How many calories are you consuming daily (PROTEIN/CARBS/FATS)?

4000+ at 208 lbs right now

300g protein
100g fat
lots of carbs

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tren is not out ... just getting everyones opinion if a massive dose of test can come close to a small 4-600 dose of tren

cookie84 said:

4000+ at 208 lbs right now

300g protein
100g fat
lots of carbs

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tren is not out ... just getting everyones opinion if a massive dose of test can come close to a small 4-600 dose of tren

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from research i've read, as well as information on here, it is better to not have the high testosterone, but to use a lower dose with other gear. tren is a good choice. so is deca or nandro. i'm running both right now with progress. also using npp. it's slow for me, but i am older, so i take my time. also, strength gains are great, but don't push so hard to gain the strength in your muscles that you leave you tendons and ligaments behind. they grow to the strength more slowly, and when damage happens to them, they heal a lot more slowly.
some gear stops collagen production and others help to produce it. collagen is need for the tendons and ligaments, or for cartilage. test tends to stop production as well as some other steroids. two that help with it are deca and primo.

As far as strength these are most from my experience for me!
Tren
Halotestin
Anadrol
And Anavar 50mg preworkout really gives me strength don't know why but it always has. Balken 50mg Anavar strenth is amazing for me!!!
Never tried but cheek drops they claim is huge STREGTH before a meet or lifts!

As far as test and deca they great for size STREGTH for me comes from more androgenic stuff, with exception for Anavar for me!!!

Tren I only use on cut or Lower dose long ester on lean bulk that I end up pretty low in bf at end!!!

But Anadrol if size the goal add 25-50mg preworkout to that test and deca and u will be adding weight!!
Designers that create strength are Superdrol, Msten, M1T, Alpha 1, and Phera-Flex, Epistane even ups my STREGTH.

Injects enough test, or test base pre-workout, tren of all esters, I slowly get stronger on 700wk test c or e with 500wk deca though!! Adding an oral to test and deca I gain the weight and STREGTH and once test and deca have their building time size remains and strength.
The thing is I never wanna keep that watery weight, I even like using deca cal deficient or with t3/t4, deca really holds size prepping for cut on lean bulk. As far as growing into a huge ripped beast.... Hgh, igf, gear, t3/t4 and diet of 5500 cals clean needed for myself at 5'8" but I am not trying to do that... I am trying to get those cals of 5000 in order with corect foods, I have the perfect diet I just need to apply it and work hard. I only wanna gain slow lean muscle and let my body adjust to it. And keep my bp in check. I would like to get to 225lbs at 5'8" and 6% bf. I have 7 years to go before I hit 50. All changed after 37 for me. I am smaller but taking new approach..

cookie84 said:

4000+ at 208 lbs right now

300g protein
100g fat
lots of carbs

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tren is not out ... just getting everyones opinion if a massive dose of test can come close to a small 4-600 dose of tren

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No not for me!!! Sides from enough test to do so not worth it and trying to combat aromatase that way too hard!!
Nothing compares to tren ace at 75mg a day for me.
I have ran test, tren, mast 3 vials 100mg if each per ml that's 30 days worth... STREGTH was unbeatable. But I rather test cyp 200wk, Trest prop 50mg-65mg a day, tren ace 75mg a day and mast prop 100ng a day with mast e 200 or so a week. I pin 3ml of whatever of those I can fit and normally add primo too. Primo keeps my muscles fuller when using lower test to tren without sides and strength still up with tren higher than test. Once i start tren ace I really notice strength when I can do pull ups at 20 reps effortless of 4 sets!!! I notice it always first on pull ups!!!

Tren for strength even with Lower test beats high test alone anyway

I may try 800 test + 4-600 tren E I like the E because I'm not a fan of everyday pins however I may try it ..... I am a powerlifter so the goal is strength . size is nice I do wanna be lean but thats not the goal...

really wanna try test + tren + anadrol + slin + igf to throw on SLABS of lean muscle . at the tail end of my Deca + Test cycle now deca did not do much for me slow steady strength gains at best but nothing ground breaking

cookie84 said:

I may try 800 test + 4-600 tren E I like the E because I'm not a fan of everyday pins however I may try it ..... I am a powerlifter so the goal is strength . size is nice I do wanna be lean but thats not the goal...

really wanna try test + tren + anadrol + slin + igf to throw on SLABS of lean muscle . at the tail end of my Deca + Test cycle now deca did not do much for me slow steady strength gains at best but nothing ground breaking

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For power and strength I like tren ace because it works fast more can be added planning for days to come.
Tren base I hear is better for strength and M-tren even better but short term!!

Test base I don't notice a whole lot to be honest. Lol

Halotestin does the trick with STREGTH especially in a cut but works no matter what on demand!!

As stated cheech drops but only on demand for most part I imagine.

Anadrol and plates are added for sure!!

If I were u and looking for size I would use test and DHB both high 1.5 gram test c and 1 gram DHB and add tren base before lifts,
Anadrol or Halotestin can work too.

I am on cruise and using DHB and it's got some size potential!!! I just imagine bp will be elevated with size and tren especially tren e. Please monitor BP and get on lorsartan of lisperil if necessary!!! Cialis doesn't help enough with size the goal for BP!!

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How can that much DHB be pinned without insane PIP I hear people crying over 200mg

cookie84 said:

How can that much DHB be pinned without insane PIP I hear people crying over 200mg

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Get at right place! I can't help but I use 100mg a day No problems.
Would use more but pin was full will add more in now it's not as full!!
Can't believe all u hear!!
First DHB out would crash and crash in depot site. It's been perfected at right places.

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Tren and a second is Deca

1) anadrol
2)tren A
3)test

The best for strength is Anadrol, in my experience anyway, by far. But it needs to be real oxymethalone and dosed correctly. If it is 50 mgs a day will maje you so much stronger its unbelievable, really. The most you should ever take is 100mgs a day. There have been several studies that show Anadrol's affects top out at 100mgs. Meaning you can get more from 100 mgs a day than 50. But taking 150 mgs is going to cause more side effects and make no difference in any other area.

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Strength
Anadrol
Tren
Halotestin

In designers
Cheek drops
M-Trien
Superdrol


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pgc640 said:

The best for strength is Anadrol, in my experience anyway, by far. But it needs to be real oxymethalone and dosed correctly. If it is 50 mgs a day will maje you so much stronger its unbelievable, really. The most you should ever take is 100mgs a day. There have been several studies that show Anadrol's affects top out at 100mgs. Meaning you can get more from 100 mgs a day than 50. But taking 150 mgs is going to cause more side effects and make no difference in any other area.

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Strength builds so fast that being careful important. Plates are added!!!

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