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    My blood pressure was 120/80 ish mid July last year. When I was on just test it went to about 130/85 but then gradually kept increasing then stablised at around 140/85. Once off cycle and doing PCT, it was still a bit high, around 135/80.

    Now I am on some tri-test (400mg/ml) and tren (200mg/ml) 1ml each per week and 1 anavar (50mg) per day. My blood pressure is min 150/90 (with a pulse of 100+ per min) and the highest reading has been about 158/90. They are fitting a 24 hour monitor to check if its anxiety, but, I have measuring through the day for the past 5 days at home, and its always 150-160/80-90.

    I am only 28 years old. Is it the gear as I've never had high blood pressure before. They checked my kidneys and liver and thyroid and everything is normal. They checked salt, potassium, etc all is good. Only one liver enzyme was high, they don't know why, are re-checking it.

    The only other side I get is a little night sweat, but if I drink enough water during the day (min 3 litres per day) I am completely fine. I don't feel tired etc. I am wondering if there is something I need to take to basically help control this symptom? I really want to avoid going on medicine.
     

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    You could try eating cleaner. Sometimes an increase in bodyweight can cause it. Often its from water retention.
     

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    Drop test to 200wk add tren to 400 am next time or run 150 test to 300 tren
    Or use 200 test and 100 tren every 5 days.

    My bp is high only with test higher or equal to tren especially long ester route. But not if long ester low in test and low in tren just if test high and tren low!! Happens everytime!!

    To do long ester I do this
    Test c or e 175mg wk
    Tren hex or e 150wk
    Primo E 200 @ 450wk
    Then add in test p 75mg tren ace 75mg mast p 75mg a blend all in 1ml so I can break down into MWF with long ester broke into 3 pins too, so I can pin only MWF.

    Once I cut down I will drop blend and stay on low dose long ester and bump up primo anavar included
    Epistane added for late spring re-cut for summer then cruise on trt and primo till July bloods!!

    If u can't handle the blend in at full dose cut it into 1/2 and add in tren ace and mast prop!!

    All my experience taught me test lower than tren no sides and BP perfect but if u do more test especially long ester route with tren.... BP high and irritability bad makes BP worse (tren sides or tren rage) happened everytime until I tried what many others said!!!

    Tren is body changer and cutter to hold muscle not build bigger muscle!! Sides too bad using it that route. I believe your test isn't binding to receptors against tren and it's converting.

    I been on long ester test as above and tren hex 2wk in and body changed already!!! Adding 75mg of each cut stack by Monday... pics will be up in my new cycle thread with BP photos in 10 days after Monday...
    I am 43 never used bp med but I do use 10mg Cialis a day and my BP 100/60 to 120/70. 130/80 on stressed day.
    Try L-theanine to control BP for now add 100-200mg 3x a,day and check it.
    BUT LOWER TEST TO TREN AND NEVER WILL I CHANCE A BUILD UP OF EITHER TOGETHER AT HIGH DOSE!!! HAD BAD EXPERIENCE AFTER Using lots of times and never will I chance again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    Drop test to 200wk add tren to 400 am next time or run 150 test to 300 tren
    Or use 200 test and 100 tren every 5 days.

    My bp is high only with test higher or equal to tren especially long ester route. But not if long ester low in test and low in tren just if test high and tren low!! Happens everytime!!

    To do long ester I do this
    Test c or e 175mg wk
    Tren hex or e 150wk
    Primo E 200 @ 450wk
    Then add in test p 75mg tren ace 75mg mast p 75mg a blend all in 1ml so I can break down into MWF with long ester broke into 3 pins too, so I can pin only MWF.

    Once I cut down I will drop blend and stay on low dose long ester and bump up primo anavar included
    Epistane added for late spring re-cut for summer then cruise on trt and primo till July bloods!!

    If u can't handle the blend in at full dose cut it into 1/2 and add in tren ace and mast prop!!

    All my experience taught me test lower than tren no sides and BP perfect but if u do more test especially long ester route with tren.... BP high and irritability bad makes BP worse (tren sides or tren rage) happened everytime until I tried what many others said!!!

    Tren is body changer and cutter to hold muscle not build bigger muscle!! Sides too bad using it that route. I believe your test isn't binding to receptors against tren and it's converting.

    I been on long ester test as above and tren hex 2wk in and body changed already!!! Adding 75mg of each cut stack by Monday... pics will be up in my new cycle thread with BP photos in 10 days after Monday...
    I am 43 never used bp med but I do use 10mg Cialis a day and my BP 100/60 to 120/70. 130/80 on stressed day.
    Try L-theanine to control BP for now add 100-200mg 3x a,day and check it.
    BUT LOWER TEST TO TREN AND NEVER WILL I CHANCE A BUILD UP OF EITHER TOGETHER AT HIGH DOSE!!! HAD BAD EXPERIENCE AFTER Using lots of times and never will I chance again
    Test e or c low like I mentioned 175wk and tren e or hex 150wk fine and fine to add short esters like I mentioned it it bothers u add more short tren to short test... only issue I get is when I use long ester of both and test builds up problems start!!! But test over 200wk of course !!!
    And short ester if test 75mg a day and tren 50mg A day even worse with less tren this route. Short route only I use test p and tren ace plus mast all at 75mg a day sides start lower test to 50mg up mast to 100mg keep tren at 75mg sides gone in a day!!! Everytime!!! Mast helps estro and water keeping tren sides lower.
    But I tried all ways and now I just lower test and all good.
    I can use long ester test c 175 and tren e 150-200 forever with no side but if u up test to 400 with that tren both long esters... in trouble everytime BP and emotional sides.
    Know a guy ended up in loony bin on tren so beware!!! He got out as soon as he couldn't use gear or tren he was normal after 10 day stay. Wasn't me but I lost temper and went to jail and violence program!!! Yep it happened but it was my house and someone caused too much and lied but I could of sat back and let him hang himself...m
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashop View Post
    You could try eating cleaner. Sometimes an increase in bodyweight can cause it. Often its from water retention.
    My diet is very clean. The most "unhealthy" thing I probably eat in the day is cheese.
    My bodyweight has been stable around 84-86kg for the past number of years.
    Water retention could indeed be the cause. But how do I know this is it?
    My BP was higher than normal prior to taking the gear also, it just got higher on gear, hence my concern.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    Drop test to 200wk add tren to 400 am next time or run 150 test to 300 tren
    Or use 200 test and 100 tren every 5 days.

    My bp is high only with test higher or equal to tren especially long ester route. But not if long ester low in test and low in tren just if test high and tren low!! Happens everytime!!

    To do long ester I do this
    Test c or e 175mg wk
    Tren hex or e 150wk
    Primo E 200 @ 450wk
    Then add in test p 75mg tren ace 75mg mast p 75mg a blend all in 1ml so I can break down into MWF with long ester broke into 3 pins too, so I can pin only MWF.

    Once I cut down I will drop blend and stay on low dose long ester and bump up primo anavar included
    Epistane added for late spring re-cut for summer then cruise on trt and primo till July bloods!!

    If u can't handle the blend in at full dose cut it into 1/2 and add in tren ace and mast prop!!

    All my experience taught me test lower than tren no sides and BP perfect but if u do more test especially long ester route with tren.... BP high and irritability bad makes BP worse (tren sides or tren rage) happened everytime until I tried what many others said!!!

    Tren is body changer and cutter to hold muscle not build bigger muscle!! Sides too bad using it that route. I believe your test isn't binding to receptors against tren and it's converting.

    I been on long ester test as above and tren hex 2wk in and body changed already!!! Adding 75mg of each cut stack by Monday... pics will be up in my new cycle thread with BP photos in 10 days after Monday...
    I am 43 never used bp med but I do use 10mg Cialis a day and my BP 100/60 to 120/70. 130/80 on stressed day.
    Try L-theanine to control BP for now add 100-200mg 3x a,day and check it.
    BUT LOWER TEST TO TREN AND NEVER WILL I CHANCE A BUILD UP OF EITHER TOGETHER AT HIGH DOSE!!! HAD BAD EXPERIENCE AFTER Using lots of times and never will I chance again
    Do you think its the proportions? Mine was around 140/80 prior to starting the gear... now 150/85 ish.
     

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    I have been taking a low dose aspirin and it helps. (2xday)
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    It can be something as simple as a ton of sodium in your diet. I eat bland chicken daily and put a ton of salt laden things on it like Worcestershire etc to make it palatable. Cutting back on that keeps my BP under control.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopesanddreams View Post
    Do you think its the proportions? Mine was around 140/80 prior to starting the gear... now 150/85 ish.
    don't know your age, but for me as i got older, mostly in my fifties, my bp began to rise. this was as a natty. gear definitely has made it rise as well. i use baby aspirin, gentler on the stomach, and clonidine 10 mcg a day. giving blood would help if you can do so, like everyone has said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hopesanddreams View Post
    Do you think its the proportions? Mine was around 140/80 prior to starting the gear... now 150/85 ish.
    Brother I am 43!!! I eat whatever I want and as long as my bf low enough I don't see my BP go up....
    I take Cialis 10mg everyday to help with possible bp but mostly prostate... like needing to pee because my PSA is low!!! Also validation with Cialis....

    WITH TREN!!! IT'S DEFINATELY YOUR TEST IS TOO HIGH FOR TREN AND ESTRO IS HIGH!!! U TOO YOUNG UNLESS YOUR BF HIGH!!!

    drop test to 250wk and raise tren after 2 weeks to 350 and see what happens!!!

    But if u haven't figured out tren u better use test prop or test ace with tren ace plus add a ton of mast and watch what I am saying!! But keep in mind many CANNOT RUN TREN BECAUSE BP ISSUES AND IRRITABILITY!!!!

    I know it's your test too high and tren just enough to screw things up!!!
    Tren a cutting roid so cut with it. Test bulker so bulk and with tren use right amount of tren and just enough test like high TRT until u can find dose!!

    IMO tren 200wk only a maintaining dose once already lean, to hold it without sides.
    And it's done with around same test....

    If u cycling tren and it's under 350wk then u pissing in wind and when it hits u.... BP spikes!!!

    Seriously some may handle loads of Test with tren but not normally without t3. But these are professionals...

    What is so so funny is everyone I hear say they have problems and wanna kill people with tren.... they use test 2x higher than tren. I never met 1 person or read one thread with test 1 to tren 2 or test 2 to tren 3 that had a problems!! Those who knocked it then tried it are like they experienced a revelation!!
    I was one of those test gotta be higher!!!!
    I learned test only makes all sides worse with all roids the higher test the worst of sides with side effect roids.
    Stacking is meant to avoid test sides or else why not just double test???

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    Blood pressure is easy to control with the right supplements, mine has always been a little high naturally so on steroids it inevitably increased to about 140/85 and was even higher in the doctors office with anxiety. I have now got it down to an average of 110/70 and sometimes as low as 102/65 before bed.

    Supplement that helped me the most is Carditone. I take 1 pill before bed every night. Pottassium also helps me although I would advise having your levels checked before deciding on a dosage as you can take too much and possibly harm yourself. Kyolic Garlic extract also helped me but the carditone is more than enough for me.
     

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