It's been almost 3 years

Hey guys,

I've been out of the gym for almost 3 years. I had another child and started a business so I had to put myself aside for a little while but I am now back in the gym pushing weight... I have lost considerable size and atrangth but haven't put on much fat which I am happy about...
My question to u is... How long would u personally train natural before getting back on the chemical wagon?

If i had not put any fat on, and i had done a few cycles in the past, then i wouldnt wait long if at all. I might go in and do a full body workout every couple days for the first week, but i know i i stopped 3 years , i would hop right back on and lower dosages and gradually build dosage up. I would also not use anything other than testosterone for the first cycle back

Welcome back agree with @presser

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Boomer said:

Hey guys,

I've been out of the gym for almost 3 years. I had another child and started a business so I had to put myself aside for a little while but I am now back in the gym pushing weight... I have lost considerable size and atrangth but haven't put on much fat which I am happy about...
My question to u is... How long would u personally train natural before getting back on the chemical wagon?

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I would go 4-6 months of training hard, and proper diet before considering any AAS assistance.

I guess I would go by feel. If I was doing well and recovering good then I would wait but Anabolics always done me well for healing and recovery plus motivation!!!

My wife gets back into gym and takes Anavar 10mg and it prevents soreness.

Kids were out school for holidays then each had the flu so took her out gym for good 6 weeks recently. She started back up and got sore as hell so she is edging to weights. No Anavar this time around. Anavar available but we decided she will start Novothyral mix at 100mcg t4 and 20mcg t3 half tab. Then whole tab after a few days then add 12.5 to 25mcg t3 and use for duration. She will use 20mg test acetate on Mondays and 20mg on Thursdays. She booked our vacation for beach first week in June so... on top of that she will use 10mg winny last 2 weeks before beach and stay on 5mg winny at beach with test ace and t3/t4!!!!
She is around 40 had 4 kids and doesn't mind the aid to get into shape. For her its helps with recovery and changes ratios in favor of burning fat with hormones!!

As far as myself I never missed any working work time except may be 2 weeks for surgery's then at least started with light weight dumb bells.... gear..... I had to stop Testosteone to have our son 5 years ago but that was only for about 1 year. Other than that I will not go without at least TRT, but I been dead on production for long long time!!!!

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I guess everyone is different.. I'll most likely wait a few months let my body feel sore for a while let it get used to the routine first

I would go by bodyfat level. If it was high (over 15% to me) I would naturally diet down before gear. If I was lean after a lay-off I would almost immediately.

U see I think opposite!!! Androgen binding and fat loss are best about juice!!!
If experienced with gear and in mid 30's and done with kids.... I would get back on and stay at TRT min. Without worry of pct it's a whole new horizon and easier!!

So I guess are u done with kids and how old are u??

I always f8ck to cum, and foreplay only good for what is cumming...

If it is someone not experienced with gear wait!!

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I'm 36 ... Have done some cycles in the passed nothing to big or too long generally test only. Last cycle 3 years ago was test n Decca at relitivly mild doses.. I'm happy with the number of kids I have.. but won't rule out another so staying on trt doeses isn't an option maybe when I'm 40 I will consider it

MM is a MF'n Beast!!

Muscle mechanic said:

U see I think opposite!!! Androgen binding and fat loss are best about juice!!!
If experienced with gear and in mid 30's and done with kids.... I would get back on and stay at TRT min. Without worry of pct it's a whole new horizon and easier!!

So I guess are u done with kids and how old are u??

I always f8ck to cum, and foreplay only good for what is cumming...

If it is someone not experienced with gear wait!!

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I would agree. If your older I would go back on Test and small amount of Deca . It takes awhile to kick in but it will help the recovery big time and your joints . Don’t be trying to do PR s but let it help you recover from the change in activity. In 8 weeks in you can raise the dose as your body adjusted to the activity.

I hate how it hurts to get older. Just me.


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Hey, welcome back, Boomer! Long time no see!

Boomer said:

Hey guys,

I've been out of the gym for almost 3 years. I had another child and started a business so I had to put myself aside for a little while but I am now back in the gym pushing weight... I have lost considerable size and atrangth but haven't put on much fat which I am happy about...
My question to u is... How long would u personally train natural before getting back on the chemical wagon?

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Welcome back I am sure you are ready to get back into it. I guess my only question would be how close are you to your natural ceiling? ( I forget the ratio of BF, total weight and height to give you a ratio, isn't 26 the tipping point?) If you are close to your ceiling, I would hit it right away, if you are a long way away I would hold off 3 months to a year. Then again you are getting close to the age where TRT dose is almost mandatory and it wouldn't hurt to just start with 100mg EW just to start or go full TRT dose and do 200mg EW.

BigZ said:

Hey, welcome back, Boomer! Long time no see!

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Thanks feels good to be back. Back in the gym and back on here