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    Default Kigtropin vs. Hygetropin vs. Blue Tops

    Ive decided to do a little experiment. I am currently doing NQK Kigtropins. A friend of mine is doing the Chinese Hygetropin, and my fiance is doing the generic blue tops. All 3 of us have decided to go through LabCorp via Private MD - Buy Lab Tests Online and get a Human Growth Hormone Serum test. My friend on the Hygetropin had his blood drawn this morning. Im scheduled to have mine (Kigtropin) drawn in the morning. And my fiance will have hers done next week (blue tops). I can tell you that the Hygetropin was the most expensive. But based on the results we are seeing, we think the NQK Kigtropins are the best quality. And I almost think the blue tops might be better than the Hygetropin. But, we are going to know for sure when the results start coming in. Im very anxious and I would imagine that all of you would like to know what we learn as well. I will keep you posted.
     

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    Great, I will check this post
     

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    Is that a single test or part of a unit of tests ? How much is it nowadays ?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigghorn View Post
    Is that a single test or part of a unit of tests ? How much is it nowadays ?
    We are each taking one test. My test is tomorrow. I will fast tonight, then 3 hours before having blood drawn, I will pin 1o iu's of HGH intra muscular. In about 3 days, i can log into the website and view the results. Its about $49 for the test. Anything above 15 is good. Between 5 and 10 is underdosed and below 5 is bunk. Ive heard Riptropins are testing in the 30's? But I cant verify that. The cool thing is, you can do this completely anonymously. You dont have to show ID, you dont have to put your name, signature, address, or phone number on the requisition form. The results are for your eyes only!
    Im very excited to see what I learn from this.
     

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    I did 8iu hygrtropin IM at 330am and 4iu SQ at 530am and got tested at 630am that much hgh really messed with. I cant wait to see the results of the 3 test we are doing. for the cost of $49 i will test all my hgh from now on. and for $69 i can do and IGF test now i dont get mine from MC but it will be another good test to run and check the quality of it.
     

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    I had my blood drawn at 6:00 am this morning. In a few days the results should be in for the hygetropin and the kigtropin. The blue top serum levels will be shortly after that. I can't wait to see the results.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    I had my blood drawn at 6:00 am this morning. In a few days the results should be in for the hygetropin and the kigtropin. The blue top serum levels will be shortly after that. I can't wait to see the results.
    Me too...I'm as anxious as you ..lol
     

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    HYGETROPIN BUNK serum tested .3 wow that sucks and my hygrtropin was legit.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigghorn View Post
    Me too...I'm as anxious as you ..lol
    what hgh are you testing? if you dont mind me asking.
     

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    Trip,

    Excellent to have testing done for the community.

    A couple things to keep in mind:

    - Having 3 different people test 1 gh each will show if there's gh in the vials, but it will be difficult, if not impossible to determine which is relatively "stronger" if two come back as good. Testing on other boards I belong to has shown that following identical testing protocols with identical gh (pharmacy grade, same kits) serum levels can vary widely from individual to individual. Some people's levels come back more than double others. The only way to begin identifying which may be "best" would be to have one person test all 3 over the course of a week, taking 48 hours in between gh administration (ie test M/W/F).

    - When mentioning a non-branded generic (blue tops) as long as board rules permitted, it would be helpful to identify where it came from, as not all blue (or red, yellow, etc...) are produced in the same place, thus quality varies greatly.

    I'm excited to see your results!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 718si View Post
    Trip,

    Excellent to have testing done for the community.

    A couple things to keep in mind:

    - Having 3 different people test 1 gh each will show if there's gh in the vials, but it will be difficult, if not impossible to determine which is relatively "stronger" if two come back as good. Testing on other boards I belong to has shown that following identical testing protocols with identical gh (pharmacy grade, same kits) serum levels can vary widely from individual to individual. Some people's levels come back more than double others. The only way to begin identifying which may be "best" would be to have one person test all 3 over the course of a week, taking 48 hours in between gh administration (ie test M/W/F).

    - When mentioning a non-branded generic (blue tops) as long as board rules permitted, it would be helpful to identify where it came from, as not all blue (or red, yellow, etc...) are produced in the same place, thus quality varies greatly.

    I'm excited to see your results!
    Thank you for the advice. I will do that then. I will have my results from the NQK Kigs tomorrow. Hopefully, I will have better news than my friend "Badmfer". If my results come back positive, then I will have the blue tops tested myself several days later. Then we will be able to compare which one is actually better.
     

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    I am glad to see someone taking the correct approach to proving the HGH he or she is buying or taking is the real deal. Most huge pros I know take or have taken a multitude of different growth inducing drugs, usually advised by someone who has already been down those roads and spent a fortune making mistakes before they get it right. Size and strength is a good sign something is working but which one if you are taking several different peptides etc? IGF-1 blood levels is a good way to start but remember other things can effect IGF-1 blood levels including delta sleep, insulin, exercise, diet, testosterone levels, and a host of others.
     

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    Well folks, the results are in. And they arent good!. Attached are my lab results for the Kigtropin NQK's. Im just going to go and flush some more of my money down the toilet. I will be back when Im finished.
     

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    Hey trip can you post a pic of a vial and lot number etc .. Thanks brutha..
     

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    This is some bull shit. the only thing good that i can get out of it is all the gains i have made come from hard work and not the 10iu of bunk hgh i have been doing a day. well maybe some are from the tren lmao
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigghorn View Post
    Hey trip can you post a pic of a vial and lot number etc .. Thanks brutha..
    batch 20120210-04 kigtropin me and tripwire have the same batch
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by badmfer View Post
    batch 20120210-04 kigtropin me and tripwire have the same batch
    I notice on vial that the numbers of your guys are in a slightly different location on the vial. Mine are consistently in same exact place . Go get cheap preggo test and see if you are loaded up on hcg not hgh.. Hcg will read positive on test after squirting it with your product.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigghorn View Post
    I notice on vial that the numbers of your guys are in a slightly different location on the vial. Mine are consistently in same exact place . Go get cheap preggo test and see if you are loaded up on hcg not hgh.. Hcg will read positive on test after squirting it with your product.
    Does it matter what is inside?

    At this point, all that matters is that it's not HGH.

    Send a copy of your results to the sponsor and try to get some kind of compensation. Or chalk it up as a loss.

    Don't waste another penny or minute trying to figure out what it it, as it's not what it's supposed to be.
     

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    Here's a pic of my bunk NQK Kigtropin
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by 718si View Post
    Does it matter what is inside?

    At this point, all that matters is that it's not HGH.

    Send a copy of your results to the sponsor and try to get some kind of compensation. Or chalk it up as a loss.

    Don't waste another penny or minute trying to figure out what it it, as it's not what it's supposed to be.
    If Ive been pumping my body full of HCG on top of the HCG that Im doing intentionally, I want to know it. I will spend the few dollars for the pregnancy test and see if thats what Ive got.
     

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    thats why if its not from a pharmacy I wouldnt even bother
     

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    Here's the pregnancy test from my NQK's They look pretty close to pregnant to me. Maybe underdosed HCG? Ive never done this test before. Is this what I should expect the test to look like if it were HCG?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    Here's the pregnancy test from my NQK's They look pretty close to pregnant to me. Maybe underdosed HCG? Ive never done this test before. Is this what I should expect the test to look like if it were HCG?
    It's hcg bro.... And it sure the hell matters what's in the vial cause who wants to suppress their system with excess hcg? Hell I even heard of powder being baking soda or manitol.. I myself always want to know what I'm puttin in my body and not sure about everyone else but seems like common sense..
     

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    I just stumbled on to you thread and was wondering,,any further results?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by sieno1 View Post
    I just stumbled on to you thread and was wondering,,any further results?
    I did test another batch of kigs from a different supplier, different batch number, and even some small differences in the way the exp & batch numbers were printed. This batch came back bunk as well. Obvioulsy, I have stopped taking all of the hgh because of these results. However, I still have some generic blue tops left too, and I never tested those. I often think they may actually be ok. I keep telling myself Im going to test them, but I just think I dont want to be let down again. I have spent $1000's on all this bunk shit. I will test the blue tops one day soon.
     

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    Lol.. Join the club..
     

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    kings as far as I know are mostly bunk...there isnt as much real HGH out there as guys think...but the truth is most guys coundnt tell if they are doing real HGH or not...

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    Mike Ross can give his input as well Ill let him know about this thread...

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    Came across another GH testing protocol. Er posted from another forum.

    Originally by exphys88, all credit to him:

    Here is an easy way to not only test your hgh, but it's also a way for us to prevent fraud by sponsors selling bunk hgh.

    The Protocol:


    • Inject 10 iu IM (intramuscular).
    • Have your blood drawn 3-4 hours after injecting.
    • Fasting is not necessary.
    • No strenuous activity for at least 30 min prior to test.



    What level represents a "pass?" Our research indicates that injecting 10 iu IM of pharmaceutical grade HGH yields a serum level of between 15-50 ng/mL.

    The test that you need to order is a Human Growth Hormone, Serum test. You can order the test at privatemdlabs for about $50. You can usually find a 15% off coupon if you look around also. After ordering the test online, you will then print off the order and take it to the nearest labcorp for the blood draw. There is no need for an appointment. You will have your results in 24-48 hours.

    When mixing your HGH, be very careful when injecting the bac water, handling it in a rough manner could destroy the hgh and give you a false negative. Inject the water against the side of the vial and let it run down slowly. Store your hgh in the fridge before and after reconstituting.

    We are encouraging guys to post up results in this forum, provided they can show the labs and a pic of the hgh/gear used.


    rhGH research:



    1) Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of GH: dependence on route and dosage of administration

    2) BMC Clinical Pharmacology | Full text | Pharmacokinetics of recombinant human growth hormone administered by cool.click (TM) 2, a new needle-free device, compared with subcutaneous administration using a conventional syringe and needle

    3) Medscape: Medscape Access

    4) Medscape: Medscape Access
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    Thata the same protocol I used.
     

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    Pretty much to a T

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    Ive decided to do a little experiment. I am currently doing NQK Kigtropins. A friend of mine is doing the Chinese Hygetropin, and my fiance is doing the generic blue tops. All 3 of us have decided to go through LabCorp via Private MD - Buy Lab Tests Online and get a Human Growth Hormone Serum test. My friend on the Hygetropin had his blood drawn this morning. Im scheduled to have mine (Kigtropin) drawn in the morning. And my fiance will have hers done next week (blue tops). I can tell you that the Hygetropin was the most expensive. But based on the results we are seeing, we think the NQK Kigtropins are the best quality. And I almost think the blue tops might be better than the Hygetropin. But, we are going to know for sure when the results start coming in. Im very anxious and I would imagine that all of you would like to know what we learn as well. I will keep you posted.
    I understand the benefits of hgh products to men. is it beneficial to women? if so, how?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidsaintgee View Post
    I understand the benefits of hgh products to men. is it beneficial to women? if so, how?
    yes its beneficial for women in much the same way as men, in fat loss, and lean muscle gains, and slowing down father time. We have a bunch of good threads about women and huh if u run a search for it!

    Welcome to MuscleChemistry.com and what exactly are you looking for the HGH to do for the female?
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    Welcome to MC Davidsaintgee, hope you like the site and members.
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    I Have done test of Hygetropin, and bloods thats says "greater than 40ng/ml"
    Hygetropin with anti-counterfeit checked at Welcome to the Hygetropin
    If someone wants to see the lab test i can print.
     

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    All three of these gh products are crap. Legitamite kigs don't excist any more. And what is sold, isn't real. You might get 1 iu per ten iu vial.

    Best gh is pharma grade saizen pens, norditropin, genotropin, omnitrope, Eli Lilly humatrope. That's it. That's fucking it!! Aq humatrope also, wich is very hard to get.

    - - - Updated - - -

    There is some Mexican gh too I forgot the name it's pritty good too. Well from reviews I've heard of any way I have no expirience with. It. My gh expirience is just starting to get seasoned.
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    Humatrope.
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    What MrBigz stated! All this Chinese GH may contain some GH but who the F knows what fillers or peptides they are putting in them. I've seen a ton of generics test high on GH serum test and the same guys test their IGF levels and they are in the 150-250 range.

    I've seen Hyges, Rips, Eli's, Jins, Evo's blah blah blah.

    Pharm grade is the way to go if you wanna know what you are actually putting into your body.

    If I absolutely had to run a generic GH it would me riptropins.

    mands
     

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    I wont buy any of that shit , il buy Mc igf all day and get results

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    I wont buy any of that shit , il buy Mc igf all day and get results

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    I wont buy any of that shit , il buy Mc igf all day and get results
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    Amen!
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    After reading this thread I decided to get mine tested as well so will be going in this morning for blood work and will be sure to post results. Starting to lose faith with the GH out there even though it is from a reliable source. I'll keep everyone posted!
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    Yeah bro you have to be careful even the sources can't tell what they have a lot of the times, I know their were generic blue tops going around forever, and being sold as 10 i.u vials and all they were was 4 . i.u and and some were just hcg .

    I don't fuck with HGH anymore, way too many fakes, good fakes, however even the real HGH i don't use cause it makes my hands to numb and i hate that feeling
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    Yea that's what worries me most. The pro to con ratio is definitely being outweighed by the cons lately. I remember back in the day when everything seemed so much more potent for what you got. Now too many people have gotten too greedy and look at the short term benefit of making a quick buck rather than having a long term client bases that will generate them more revenue and everyone comes out happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruger762 View Post
    Yea that's what worries me most. The pro to con ratio is definitely being outweighed by the cons lately. I remember back in the day when everything seemed so much more potent for what you got. Now too many people have gotten too greedy and look at the short term benefit of making a quick buck rather than having a long term client bases that will generate them more revenue and everyone comes out happy.
    couldn't have said it better myself daddio!
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    Well got some good news on my blood test, the GH level was almost 13ng/ml and normal is 2.9ng/ml so I know mine is legit but I also know most are not
     

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    Plus the addition of the igf will also impact this since that's a VERY high level
     

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    I cant wait to see the results of the 3 test we are doing.
     

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    Why even bother abt HGH if u can get legit igf-1 lr3 lol ,
     

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    After reading this I'm not going to take a chance with GH. I know MC IGF is legit and I get great results from it. I'm going to stick with that and add in other things
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    Quote Originally Posted by keenkig View Post
    I cant wait to see the results of the 3 test we are doing.
    who is "WE" ??? and what are you talking about bro, kind of a weird first post!
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