Applying MC IGF strictly to belly....

In the past I've applied it to the body part I was training, but this time around I've strictly applied it to my belly and I don't think there's much difference honestly. I mean I would get slightly better pumps when I applied directly to the trained muscle, but I'm still getting the same results. I was kind of surprised that I'm getting the same results, but figured I'd let everyone know that you'll get the same results either way.

Correct brutha!

That's pretty interesting. I may give it a try one of these times. I really enjoy the special treatment that the muscle that is going to be trained gets though. It's like a ritual for me

The Dude said:

That's pretty interesting. I may give it a try one of these times. I really enjoy the special treatment that the muscle that is going to be trained gets though. It's like a ritual for me

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i agree it just feels like it's doing something differant. lol
but it's way easier to just stay with the belly.

It's more of a whole body pump when applied to the belly. Like if you're training bis and back, both get pumped instead of just bis or just back

csuperman said:

i agree it just feels like it's doing something differant. lol
but it's way easier to just stay with the belly.

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Yeah you definitly get a killer pump when using it specificly on said areas

I did arms today and applied just to triceps. Both muscles got so sickly pump that I had to stop a bit early. They stayed that way for a good 3 hours! I was worried I wouldn't be able to get my work shirt on. I'm going to try the abdomen on Wed when I do back and hams

Sub q in the belly?

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Yes on the belly

To me it seems like I get a better pump applying it to the belly than to a body part..

Lightsout said:

To me it seems like I get a better pump applying it to the belly than to a body part..

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Yeah i just use it on my belly and it works great, but i have also used it on specific body parts and it was crazy good, but i hate going all over the body so i just use it on my abs

I've been doing this for some time and I've went back to periodically applying to certain muscles and I love the pump I'm getting. It might be me, but I feel like I get stagnant if I don't switch it up every so ofteb

how do you apply to the belly? and what can be taken with IGF to maximize results? i read once ZMA? anything else? legal supplements i mean

cream123 said:

how do you apply to the belly? and what can be taken with IGF to maximize results? i read once ZMA? anything else? legal supplements i mean

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What is ZMA ? Or do you mean DMZ Bro ?

Lightsout said:

What is ZMA ? Or do you mean DMZ Bro ?

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'Zinc monomethionine and aspartate and Magnesium Aspartate

cream123 said:

how do you apply to the belly? and what can be taken with IGF to maximize results? i read once ZMA? anything else? legal supplements i mean

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That's suppose to naturally improve your test levels like tribulus is suppose to. But, IMO you wouldn't be able to feel it working when taken with IGF. IGF will take over.

I don't know what you'd want to take with it but igf alone is great

cream123 said:

how do you apply to the belly? and what can be taken with IGF to maximize results? i read once ZMA? anything else? legal supplements i mean

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I'm not quite sure what you mean by how do you apply to the belly.....It's awesome though, I love applying it there

so just to save syringes i was shooting sub q...100mcgs.. got a few lumps in a my stomach..hoping it goes a way in a few days...i was shooting it straight from the refrigerator but it was so painful.... and in an effort to save pins i was shooting 100mcgs into 1 muscle a night aft letting the pin cool off for atleast an hour....but thats lumping up also...is shooting 100mcg too much?

Zinc was mentioned so I thought I'd post...

McCusker RH ("McCusker RH"[Author] - PubMed - NCBI),
Novakofski J ("Novakofski J"[Author]).The - PubMed - NCBI Department of Animal Sciences, Laboratory for Developmental Endocrinology, The University of Illinois, Urbana, Illinois 61801, USA. [email protected]
Zinc (Zn(2+)), a multifunctional micronutrient, was recently shown to lower the affinity of cell-associated insulin-like growth factor (IGF) binding protein (IGFBP)-3 and IGFBP-5 for both IGF-I and IGF-II, but to increase the affinity of the cell surface type 1 IGF receptor (IGF-1R) for the same two ligands. However, there is a need for data concerning the effects of Zn(2+) on soluble IGFBPs and the type 2 IGF receptor (IGF-2R). In the current work, we demonstrate that Zn(2+) affects the affinity of IGFBP-5 secreted by myoblasts but not IGFBP-4. Zn(2+), at physiological levels, depressed binding of both IGF-I and IGF-II to IGFBP-5, affecting (125)I-IGF-I more than (125)I-IGF-II. Both (125)I-IGF-I and (125)I-IGF-II bound to high and low affinity sites on IGFBP-5. Zn(2+) converted the high affinity binding sites of IGFBP-5 into low affinity binding sites. An IGF-I analog, (125)I-R(3)-IGF-I, did not bind to the soluble murine IGFBP-5. Zn(2+) also decreased the affinity of the IGF-2R on L6 myoblasts. In contrast, Zn(2+) increased IGF-I, IGF-II and R(3)-IGF-I binding to the IGF-1R by increasing ligand binding affinity on both P(2)A(2a)-LISN and L6 myoblasts. Soluble IGFBP-5 and IGFBP-4 depressed the binding of (125)I-IGF-I and (125)I-IGF-II to the IGF-1R, but did not affect binding of (125)I-R(3)-IGF-I. By depressing the association of the IGFs with soluble IGFBP-5, Zn(2+) partitioned (125)I-IGF-I and (125)I-IGF-II from soluble IGFBP-5 onto cell surface IGF-1Rs. This effect is not seen when soluble L6-derived IGFBP-4 is present in extracellular fluids. We introduce a novel mechanism by which the trace micronutrient Zn(2+) may alter IGF distribution, i.e. Zn(2+) acts to increase IGF-1R binding at the expense of IGF binding to soluble IGFBP-5 and the IGF-2R.