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I agree with presser and iron game, I have been doing research on peptides for over 10 years and never heard of the kind of a IGF you speak of. And I also agree with you should try someone else is first then try MC'S. I think you will be blown away by the difference and I speak from experience....
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Your going to be wasting your money I have used many other companies igf, and their is no comparison. MC igf-1 is the best hands down!!!! Just my opinion.
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07-04-2016, 09:03 PM #159
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Yes they come reconstituted and not with bacteriostatic water with acetic acid which will make it last longer then regular bacteriostatic water. correct me if I'm wrong anyone, but I would suggest at least six months. Longer than you should need it to last unless you're ordering more than 4 bottles..
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07-04-2016, 09:32 PM #161
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07-05-2016, 05:23 PM #162
Yeah bro you dont wanna use bact or sterile water with ur igf-1 lr3, bigmills is correct, its best in acetic acid solution and last many months this way, and glacial acid is what the actual patent owner of IGF-1 lr3 reccomends, reason is glacial acid doesnt have the water molecule, but for our needs, acetic acid is sufficient!
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07-07-2016, 08:08 AM #164
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first time igf user, just pinned 50 mcgs left quads 40 min ago, now eating some oatmeal and whey and gonna hit the gym for legs.
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07-07-2016, 08:48 AM #165
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I have been considering trying this for some time now as i have been using HGH (3 IUs/day) since mid-April. So, you only take it for 50 days and then break for a while? Is this an IM shot or SubQ (like i do my HGH)? I am assuming since it is micrograms it would have to be a SubQ shot using a slin pin. Excuse my ignorance. I have a friend using it and having good results. He's also using Ipamorelin which I know nothing about.
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07-07-2016, 09:00 AM #166
Most people i know including myself take it long term, the 40 to 50 days on then off is very old information, when it first came out like 14 years ago or so, you can stay on it for many months and still see the progress happening months into using it!You can use it either subq or Muscle! I have used it both ways, and its my opinion that both ways work just as well, however for added muscle, i would go IM however for long term use and more overall fatburning i would run it subq
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07-07-2016, 09:08 AM #167
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I borrowed the below from another forum. From what I have learned you only really need IGF and drop the other peptides. I am getting ready to do that and overall it will make it more affordable.
GHRP-6 is sloppier in that it activates a wider array of effects beyond GH release. It causes intense hunger and gastic motility. It can have a mild effect on cortisol and prolactin. It is a first generation GHRP.
GHRP-2 is less sloppy with a more intense GH release, no gastric motility and less hunger effect. It can have an effect within the normal range on prolcatin and cortisol. It is a second generation peptide.
Ipamorelin is not sloppy at all. It does not release as much GH as GHRP-2 but it causes virtually no hunger or gastric motility and for the most part does not effect cortisol or prolactin. It is a third generation peptide
You would choose GHRP-2 unless you wanted GHRP-6 for the hunger effect or for the lower release profiles.
You would choose GHRP-2 normally as the most bang for the buck.
If you are very sensitive to perturbations in cortisol or prolactin you would choose the more expensive Ipamorelin.
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07-07-2016, 09:34 AM #169
fuck i answered this yesterday lol, or two days ago lol, i guess it didnt go through due to all the site bullshit going on with our server
So the real short answer is NO! All peptides do not need to be in acetic acid. And the reason you use acetic acid solution, or Glacial acid is mainly due to keeping it viable for longer periods of time, 1mg of igf-1 lr3 is 1,000mcgs, and your not going to use all that up in a day or two, so you need to use something that will keep your peptide from degrading.
Now if you were say a pro bodybuilder, and used up 1mg of IGF-1 lr3 in a day or two, by taking say 500mcgs daily, then you can use bacteriostatic or sterile water to reconstitute it, although, even day two your IGF-1 lr3 will start to degrade, but you get my point, and most of us Humans who dont use an entire 1mg vial of igf-1 lr3 in a day or two, lol, well we need it stored in aa solution so that its viable for long periods of time!
So NO is the answer to your questions,
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07-07-2016, 09:57 AM #171
fridge is where i keep mine, though in aa solution its viable even at room temperature for some time, and we have an actual study posted in this forum about that
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well, i guess i might give this a whirl once I am done with this Primo cycle. I like to keep new chemicals in my body separate from the old ones so I can see if they are really doing something. I'll continue to use my GH tho--i just ordered a new batch.
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But ig u sd in between 40 snd 6ch of igf snd not any igf but mc'd u could drop your gh ff down just below 2 iu's and get almost twice the results got thr gh sbd ur ASS and be fwlllllllll
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08-12-2016, 04:41 PM #175
Has anyone done bloodwork after a few weeks?
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08-12-2016, 05:30 PM #176
A few guys posted their blood work while on our igf and while I would love to take credit for their elevated igf levels , truth is it's not that simple, and hard to test accurately as it lists free floating igf levels which might seem great to most but that means unbound which isn't good and there's a lot more to it then I can explain but we do have a great thread on this exact topic explaining better than I can. I'll see if I can't find the thread and bump it up later from my PC as I'm on phone trying to type this message lol
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08-12-2016, 06:09 PM #178
Ok well Below is the reasoning and this was found on another site as I can't find our thread on it which I think is even more elaborate than the info below but it's basically the same information, and again we've had a few guys come on here and rave how happy they were that their igf levels on blood test were so high and like I said earlier , I'd love to say "of course it's from our igf " but the blood test isn't an indicator of anything when it comes to whether ur igf-1 lr3 is real or dosed right. Anyhow below is the reasoning and again you can find a great post on it in this forum if you search hard enough ,
you cannot gauge exogenous igf1 levels due to the fact that the blood work only shows bound igf1. The idea behind LR3 is keeping it unbound so it goes systematic. So the test you had was not an indicator if your actual IGF-1 LR3 levels in the blood.
IGF-1 blood tests look only for bound IGF-1 while the purpose of IGF-1 LR3 is to keep it unbound and therefore bioavailable meaning it will not show up on conventional blood tests. It is the same scenario as for blood tests which examine testosterone levels. Many people can have results showing low or normal testosterone levels, but have high ***8220;free testosterone***8221; levels ***8211; which is much more important, since only testosterone which is not bound to SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin) can be used by the body.
Therefore your levels of IGF-1 on a blood test are not of much importance and do not take into account the increase from IGF-1 LR3 usage, as they only look at bound IGF-1 (which cannot be used by the body since it***8217;s attached to binding proteins).
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08-12-2016, 06:22 PM #179
Ok here's one of our links on igf-1 lr3 and blood work:
https://www.musclechemistry.com/uploa...bloodwork.html
lastly , I would say always research ur ass off before buying from anyone! Make sure the company is reputable and has actual user reviews, kinda like you see here lol with thousands of reviews dating back 14 or so years out of the nearly 17 years we've been here!
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What if you are doing a keto diet? No or very low carbs?
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That is very interesting brother. I was reading a dialogue about 2 days ago on igf lr3 and he got blood work done is igf levels and I should you not or something like 575 or 625 I'm going to try to dig up the log now and post it for you. I figured it was igf from MC as I can only seem to find one other source I pretty much know has legit igf however he is out of the country and his price is double that of MC's. I'm getting my blood work done on Monday both HGH serum, and my igf levels. I'm asking you a question when I say this because I know you know your shit. I was told I should get both tests done to verify the GH is good because people have heard of companies putting stuff into the GH bottles in order to bring the GH serum test up. So I was told by a few veterans that the real way to test it is get a IGF test done as well? So if my Serum level comes back at what I'm hoping for say between 25 and 35, and my igf levels come back what I'm hoping for witch is over 300, does that mean that I have good GH? And before you ask no I was stupid and I did not get blood done prior to taking GH so I do not know what my normal igf level is however I know I am 35 years old so it probably correct me if I'm wrong should not be above 300?
Another question I have for you and I'm sorry for all the questions but I was planning to add some MC igf to my GH next week when I start my test. I usually run about 70 to 80 MCG of igf when I am running it alone. What do you recommend leidos it at considering the fact I am on GH and will be adding 500mg of test with the igf?
Like always I appreciate your feedback presser you are the man brother..
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09-09-2016, 01:09 PM #187
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09-09-2016, 01:32 PM #188
Brands are fine sources aren't
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Thanks brother anyway you could do us all a favor and please add some mk-677 so we know we are actually getting legit product? I probably have everything known to man in my toolbox but that is one thing that I am not able to find a reliable source for and I see you added a few Sarm's. When I pick my igf up this weekend I'm going to be picking up a few for a buddy of mine.
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Hey guys, I just ordered my first round of MC Igf-1. I've never used peptides before but have experience with AAS. My first round I was going to give it a go by itself. Planning on 40 mcg daily. Thoughts?
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09-14-2016, 08:06 AM #191
www.sterilesyringes.com is a board sponsor i think.
The igf-1 lr3 is good by itself for keeping gains from cycle, and keeping you full looking. Its by far much better with cycle in my opinion.jimbosmith316 thanked for this postjimbosmith316 liked this post
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10-09-2016, 09:29 AM #192
real information for real igf-1 lr3 and how to use it, dose it, schedule it, time its use with the gym, and food intake to maximize its insulin-like benefits. All around great thread of info for anyone looking to use igf-1 lr3 for the first time or experienced users looking to run it a different way then they have cycled it in the past
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I'm guessing you're going to do the 40 MCG Sub-Q. Which is fine but if I was you I would try to 30 MCG bilaterally into the muscles you're getting ready to train how about 30 to 45 minutes before you go to the gym and the pump you receive will be ridiculous. Considering that it's all about getting the blood into the muscle in order for it to grow I feel like that is the best way.. just a thought..
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I want to try igf from Mc as soon as funds allow me to. Been researching for years. What about my wife would this benifit her in fat loss? If so are women able to dose less than men? Hopefully more for me lol! Does igf have cause high rbc? I hope not!
I would love to stay at trt or a little above not over 250 wk. If I can do that with igf I can stop acne, hormone fluctuations and other sides along with higher BP from certain things I combine for healing like deca for example. If anyone can help please inform me.
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Igf works well on women I would suggest 2230 micrograms bilaterally in the muscles she is going to train it will cause fat loss and increased muscle which also burns fat. As far as RBC goes I'm not quite sure I don't believe it does affect it but I don't want to answer when I'm not a hundred percent sure. But if you are going to try a IGF 1 lr3 I highly suggest you stick with MC throughout my 729 years dealing with igf I have never met anything comparable to what MC has, and I'm not a mod or a rep I'm just speaking from personal experience brother.
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Igf1lr3.....I have gustion plz. What the exactly dosage I should take if I mix 1vial=100mcg with2ml acoorging aslin pin?how many alittle lines=50mcg?
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10-09-2016, 07:48 PM #198
A slin pin is only 1ml so if you have the kits of 10 with 100mcg in each and if you add 2 ml to the 100mcg then you just made it 50mcg per ml so in ur case you'll have to fill the entire slin pin up to get 50mcg
and for the record this is NOT MuscleChemistrys igf-1 lr3 so please don't anyone try using this math for your MuscleChemistry igf-1 lr3
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