IGF / Prohormone Cycle Log

Hey guys, I am new to the forum but I've been spent hours researching on this site. It's one of my favorites!

This will be my first cycle ever and I know it's mostly prohormones/designers, but I thought I'd share it since I'm also using IGF.

I actually started on 10/10/14, so I'm a few of days in. (Already noticing some really nice sides)


12-16 Week Bulk Cycle (Revised 10/21/14)



HCG: On hand just in case.

I also have 3 bottles of Syntherol. I have extremely small legs, and I hate to wear shorts because of it.
Also gonna use a little in my Biceps.
I will be going VERY slow with this.

- On a side note; for my first dose of MC IGF1-Lr3, I applied what I thought was 2iu into each deltoid. They instantly swole and I worked them just a little to get a pump. It was INSANE!! Later, I realized that I applied 200iu to each Delt! HaHa!
Never used a Slin Pin before so it was a rookie mistake. Just glad nothing bad happened.

Training

I will be using Jim Stopanni's "Shortcut to Size" training program.

DIET/SUPPLEMENTS

I am shooting for 3K-3500 Calories a day, getting 200g+ protein/day.
My diet is very clean, but I know I need to eat more.
Not much red meat. Mostly chicken, pork, and fish.
Oats, Rice, Sweet potatoes, Baked Potatoes
Lots of healthy fats.
10-12 Egg Whites ED
Roughly .5 gallon Milk ED
Yogurt, Granola, Flax Seed


Pre-Workout

Liver Support Matrix

Aegis (TUDCA)

Liquid Multivitamin

Finasteride


Post Workout (PWO)

JYM Active Matrix

I'll also be adding some Dextrose to create an insulin spike.

ON Weight Gainer - 76gm protein including Milk

A large (clean) meal an hour later. As much as I can eat!


Before Bed

1/2 Cup (6 egg whites) of International Egg whites along with some SynthaPURE (30gm protein).


STATS

I am 35 years old, 5'9 176lbs. Bodyfat not measured, but I have visable abs.

Just a little info on using the slin pin for your IGF. If its a half cc pin then each little line is 20 mcg. If its a 1cc pin, then each little line is 10 mcg. IGF is measures in mcg not iu. Just for your info....

Keep us updated. Not very knowledgeable on Sytherol, but your Cyp dose may or may not be quite what your looking for. Although, some people grow really well on lower doses of Test. If it were me, I'd run the Cyp at 400mg per week for a minimum of 10 weeks. Your best gains will come from your very first cycle, so I'd capitalize on it brother. But, ultimately its your decision. Sounds like you've done your homework though. The Cyp will be kicking in good around week 4-5. That's why I say run it on out to at least 10 weeks so you can get some good gains from this cycle. Good idea adding in the Adex cause that Dbol will run your Estrogen up and the Adex will help combat those sides...

Austin

As a side note.... I screwed up my first IGF application. Thought I was using 20 mcg in each quad, but I actually put 200 in each cause I didn't know how to read a slin pin either. So, that 400mcgs felt amazing to say the least. I had more energy than I'd had for years and I know I ate 2500 calories inside of 2-3 hours!!! LMAO!!!!

Thanks man!

I have enough Test to run 400mg/Week for 10 weeks (I actually have more than that), so I may just go ahead and do that. I've been taking 200mg/Week for almost 6 months now for HRT, and I really haven't noticed any benefits from it.

The very first week I started the injections, my libido was way up. It's always high anyway, but it just got crazy. Lol!

I wish I could eat like that. I have a hard time with it because I just never have an appetite, and when I do eat, I get full fast. I am getting between 3K-3500 cal/Day right now, but it is so hard for me. I thought about trying some GHRP2 to help with that, but I'm already taking so much stuff.

Also, I have the IGF1 dosage figured out now. I found a reconstitution calculator, and that helped me to understand. I have a bottle from another source that I added 3ml AA to (I have 5 bottles-4 of them MC). I actually took 50mcg of it today, and noticed nothing at all from it. I'm gonna do the same dose tomorrow with the MC IGF and see if there is a difference. I'll go back down to 20mcg/Daily, but I wanted to use a higher dose to try and see if it is real.

So far, I have dropped about $1500 on everything, so I really hope I get a good return on my investment!

It's a little late now, but I'm unfamiliar with those prohormones. Next time hit us up first. There are board sponsors that carry M1T (very powerful) and Super DMZ 2.0 is about the best prohormone out now by far. If you can return the others do it. I'd probably stick with 40mcg total per day of IGF.
Biggest thing is to eat. No excuses. Make 2 lbs a chicken a night and add 1/2 cup brown rice and split this over 3 meals maybe four. Then with your post workout shake and meal at dinner tike you'll be primed to go.
8 hours of sleep.
No drinking
Get your protein mostly from food. Get good fats from olive oils and nuts.

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Dude, I've used Dianodrol it's dbol w/ oxime attachment it is dry @ least for me... Very similar to Tbol IMO. Trest Ace is a beast... Used the oral version blew me up in conjunct w/ Test P. I have the oil version now I'll compare. Nikon looks good bro, best of luck on ur cycle. Well made log too. I'm in 4 the ride.

Nikon said:

Thanks man!

I have enough Test to run 400mg/Week for 10 weeks (I actually have more than that), so I may just go ahead and do that. I've been taking 200mg/Week for almost 6 months now for HRT, and I really haven't noticed any benefits from it.

The very first week I started the injections, my libido was way up. It's always high anyway, but it just got crazy. Lol!

I wish I could eat like that. I have a hard time with it because I just never have an appetite, and when I do eat, I get full fast. I am getting between 3K-3500 cal/Day right now, but it is so hard for me. I thought about trying some GHRP2 to help with that, but I'm already taking so much stuff.

Also, I have the IGF1 dosage figured out now. I found a reconstitution calculator, and that helped me to understand. I have a bottle from another source that I added 3ml AA to (I have 5 bottles-4 of them MC). I actually took 50mcg of it today, and noticed nothing at all from it. I'm gonna do the same dose tomorrow with the MC IGF and see if there is a difference. I'll go back down to 20mcg/Daily, but I wanted to use a higher dose to try and see if it is real.

So far, I have dropped about $1500 on everything, so I really hope I get a good return on my investment!

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Awesome Brother!! I'd definitely up the Test since you've been on the TRT dose for 6 months. Must have missed that in your first post( old age). Anyway, 400 to 600mg per week split into 2 separate shots (like Mon and Thurs) will keep more stable blood levels which will help deter estrogen sides as well.

I'm so right there with ya on the appetite bro. I cant hardly eat from the time I wake up at 5am til 10am, so I'm missing an important window. I am incorporating GHRP-6 and GHRP-2 by the end of the week. I'm gonna start a log on it since its my first time using these peptides. Only peptide I've used is MC IGF and I have to say, I was and am still impressed. I too started at 40mcg split bilaterally pre wo ed. I personally love the 100-120mcg dose range! Put 60mcg in each bicep 30 min before your arm workout. You will not believe the pump brother.

Keep us updated and remember...... Eat, Train, Eat, Rest and REPEAT!!!

Austin

Thanks for the dieting tip. I am doing good with my diet, it's just hard for me to eat that much, but I still do it.

Had a great shoulder workout today. I'm still nice and pumped. I am 5 days in, and have not gained 1 pound. That concerns me. I was hoping it would be working by now.

I took my IGF shots in my calves this morning. I was really scared, because I heard that it was painful. It was Great!! I can't wait to take my shots there tomorrow also. Lol! I had no pip whatsoever.

Good luck with the GHRP. I would suggest starting with 2 before the 6 since you haven't taken it before. That's what I'm going to do. I've heard that they are both great, but GHRP2 will give you more GH release, and the GHRP6 can make your hunger go out of control! I guess it depends on how many calories you are going for.

Syntherol should be here today or tomorrow. I'll keep you posted on that.

Thanks!

Thanks man! This is my first log ever. I just hope it helps someone out somehow.
I've read nothing but good things about the Ddrol. I have noticed a bit of the euphoria that people mention. It's very light, but noticeable. I think the 6 week cycle is gonna be nice!
Glad you got some. I'm really pumped about it. Everyone say's that it is SuperTest! From what I've read, it is better than Testosterone. Did you the the Ace or Deca? I wanted the Deca, but it is never in stock. I'm gonna grab a couple bottles as soon as it's available.

Thanks again for the encouragement!

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Trust me, I have done my research on the prohormones. I am taking the best stuff you can get. Search Trestolone Acetate and you will see what I mean. I am injecting 25mg every day. That's a reasonable starting dose, experienced users typically end up around 50mg/Day.

Dianodol converts to Dbol. New, but also Very good.

Thanks for the dieting tip. I am doing good with my diet, it's just hard for me to eat that much, but I still do it.

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Could you PM me the site that sells those? My brother is more of a PH guy than me and he hasn't heard of those so I'd like to look into them. Have you tried DMZ 2.0 or Boladrol? How would you compare them?? I'm interested. Elaborate on what they convert to or do both have effects similiar to Tbol?

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Nikon said:

Had a great shoulder workout today. I'm still nice and pumped. I am 5 days in, and have not gained 1 pound. That concerns me. I was hoping it would be working by now.

I decided to increase my Test to 400mg/Week. I have plenty if I need to go higher than that. Lol! I just wanted to start low, and be careful.

I took my IGF shots in my calves this morning. I was really scared, because I heard that it was painful. It was Great!! I can't wait to take my shots there tomorrow also. Lol! I had no pip whatsoever.

Good luck with the GHRP. I would suggest starting with 2 before the 6 since you haven't taken it before. That's what I'm going to do. I've heard that they are both great, but GHRP2 will give you more GH release, and the GHRP6 can make your hunger go out of control! I guess it depends on how many calories you are going for.

Syntherol should be here today or tomorrow. I'll keep you posted on that.

Thanks!

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MC IGF in the calves is a wonderful thing if you're like me. My confidence soars when those things are pumped up! I'm excited to follow your log, looks like good shit and we can compare notes on the Syntherol. About how long did it take your order to arrive?

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MC IGF in the calves is a wonderful thing if you're like me. My confidence soars when those things are pumped up! I'm excited to follow your log, looks like good shit and we can compare notes on the Syntherol. About how long did it take your order to arrive?

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Placed the order on 10/04/14. Just received 3 Bottles, and some SynthePure. So, 10 Days. They are having a sale right now. If you spend $350, you can choose ANY item for free.
I couldn't wait, so I went ahead and injected .5ml into each bicep. I am not going to do the 3" in a month regimen. Just want to work on the peak a bit for now.

I have heard of both of those compounds. They are both supposed to be great. I know a lot of people really like the gains from DMZ, but I have also read that it causes severe heartburn with most who use it. It has been suggested that is due to Liver toxicity. You also mentioned M1T. I plan on giving it a shot in the near future.

Unfortunately, I do not have access to AAS other than HRT, so I have to work with what I can find.

Trestolone is the God of PH's. Anyone who has taken it will tell you so. I have spent countless hours planning all of this. I will send you more info on the company this comes from. It is said that all of their raw's are tested by Patrick Arnold (The Godfather of Prohormones, and the creator of 1AD among others).


Here is a good Faq for Trestolone:

Trestolone Acetate (MENT) FAQ
Trestolone (Methylnortestosterone) Acetate FAQ
(17 beta-hydroxy-7 alpha-methylestr-4-en-3-one acetate)

What sides can I expect?
Nearly every user reports an almost immediate increase in core body temperature. Some users also report significant water retention in the presence of excess carbs, with substantial leaning out with moderate carbs. Trestolone does not bind to SHBG. From my and others’ experiences, this is the extent of the negative sides.

How powerful is Trestolone Acetate (MENT) compared to Mentabolan (Mentdione), its precursor?
There are no studies demonstrating bioavailability of these, but there are studies demonstrating their anabolic potency orally. Trestolone is significantly stronger than mentdione in what matters the most. This will only be magnified intramuscularly.

How powerful is Trestolone Acetate compared to Trenbolone?
Trestolone is hands down the stronger compound, with scientific evidence and anecdotal support. Trestolone has a 540:840 ratio when compared to methyltestosterone, meaning it is at least 5 times as androgenic and at least 8 times as anabolic. Intramuscularly, it is 2300:650. Trenbolone’s is 500:500. You do the math!

Does Trestolone carry the same risk of sides as Trenbolone?
No. There are no night sweats. No insomnia. No inappropriate aggression. No loss of libido (just an increase!). No overwhelming acne. No anxiety. It really does feel like Test plus Tren minus the negative sides, and even with a little more of a kick at a lower dose.

Does Trestolone Acetate aromatize?
Yes, very much so. A strong AI (i.e., aromasin, anastrozole) is a must while running Trestolone. By abiding by this protocol, you will reap the incomparable benefits of Trestolone without the risk of sides.

How would you describe Trestolone Acetate to an experienced AAS user?
Trestolone Acetate can best be described as comparable to a combination of Testosterone and Trenbolone, although it is chemically an offshoot of Norandren (Deca). I estimate that a moderate dose of Trestolone Acetate will yield slightly better results than a combination of Test/Tren/Mast.

What is an effective dosage protocol?
It has been estimated that even 50mg EOD will yield significant results. I’ve run it as high as 100mg ED, and at 75mg ED, but have resolved to run it at 50mg ED. That’s more than enough for Trestolone to work its magic!

What is the “kick in time” for Trestolone Acetate?
You will literally observe noticeable results within the very first few days as you start to become leaner more quickly than with any other compound known to man. It’s definitely working at full speed in less than a week.

What is the PIP like for Trestolone?
PIP has more to do with the preparation than the compound. If you prepare Trestolone correctly, there is ZERO PIP and it can even go smoothly through a slin pin.

How long should I run Trestolone Acetate?
Even a 2 week cycle will have significant results. 4-6 weeks is ideal if you want to maximize your progress without having to ramp up the dose. One of the main reasons guys don’t run Trenbolone longer than 6 weeks is because they can’t tolerate the sides. With Trestolone, those sides don’t exist. So longer runs should be feasible.

Can Trestolone be used as a Test base?
Yes. But for me personally, there is no substitute for Test as a “Test base,” even with Trestolone. However, if you are looking for the benefits that Test provides, you will be pleasantly surprised how Trestolone outperforms it. Still, I would not run Trestolone without at least a mild dose of Test – this should be no different for taking it orally. If you’re comparing Trestolone to something like Stano that people refer to as a “Test base,” you’re comparing Godzilla to a yard lizard.

What is the difference between Trestolone orally, transdermally and intramuscularly?
Intramuscularly is almost always going to produce magnified results over orally and transdermally. Transdermally is the next step down, with orally being the least effective delivery method. Reports about IM Trestolone are nothing short of amazing. For oral Trestolone, they are not any better than for other available, less expensive products.

Thanks for following!

So the Trestolone is 50mg/ml so you're doing a shot ED and going through a bottle every 40 days. Is that right?

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The Dude said:

So the Trestolone is 50mg/ml so you're doing a shot ED and going through a bottle every 40 days. Is that right?

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Almost. I am taking .5ml/day for a total of 25mg/day for 80 days (1bottle) unless I feel like I need to go up to 50mg/day. I do have more though.

Nikon said:

Almost. I am taking .5ml/day for a total of 25mg/day for 80 days (1bottle) unless I feel like I need to go up to 50mg/day. I do have more though.

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I didn't see 40ml bottles. I'll look again. My brother is looking for a new PH to try

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I didn't see 40ml bottles. I'll look again. My brother is looking for a new PH to try

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They are 20ml. They also come in 10ml, but I am buying the 20ml bottles.

I am taking 1/2ml a day.
1000ml per bottle 50mg/ml 1000mg per bottle 1000/25=40

I have 2 bottles, so that is 80 days. I know I told you wrong. Sorry about that.

I am definitely going to order more, but I am waiting on the Deca to come in. If it is not back in stock in a couple of weeks, I'll get more Ace.
I'm really concerned about the ban, so I'm stocking up on a lot of stuff!

Sorry for the confusion.

Saw your pic man. Looking good. Jealous!

I'm very interested in your results. My little brother just bought two bottles.

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Cool. He get the 20ml bottles?