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MC IGF-1 LR3 Re-comp Cycle Log
WEEK 1: 3/16/15
What's up guys? I started a new cycle today in order to get ready for the summer.
My goal is to get a nice recomp.
I still have a bit of fat to get rid of, but I would really like to get up to 175-180 in the next 2 months.
I have lost a total of 40lbs of fat, and gained 10lbs of muscle over the last two years.
My first cycle (Oct. 2014) went pretty well, and I'm ready to go again.
I am 5'9", 36 years old, 165lbs, roughly 18-20% BF, and this is my second cycle.
I kept a log of my first cycle in the "Peptide" forum titled "IGF/Prohormone Cycle Log".
I plan to keep updates to a minimum this time, because I am extremely busy with school, and I just don't want to bore you guys!
My Diet/Training will be pretty much the same as my last log.
I got a small recomp from my last cycle.
My waist went from 34" to 31".
I gained .75" in my arms.
I gained roughly .5" on my calves. (No thanks to the Syntherol)
I gained 2.5" on my shoulders below the delts.
I gained roughly 3" on my upper legs.
Thankfully, I have maintained these results with very little effort.
I have been off of everything for a few months now, and I have not even taken any Test for over a month, so my receptors should be good and fresh.
Honestly, I haven't even been working out.
Just needed a break.
Here is the plan.
MC IGF:
I have 9 bottles, so that should be enough to get me started.
60-80mcg bilaterally on Training Days (3-5 Days/Week)
(Pre-Workout, 20-30min before a high protein/complex carb meal)
20-40mcg on non-training days (just to keep it in my system)
I will continue to take MC IGF throughout the entire summer,
and maybe even for the rest of the year.
Most guys seem to think that the longer you take it, the better it works,
so I want to give that a shot.
Trestolone ACE:
Week 1 @ 25mg EOD
Week 2 @ 25mg EOD
Week 3 @ 50mg EOD
Week 4 @ 75mg EOD
Week 5 @ 50mg EOD
Trest-Deca
Week 1 @ 150
Week 2 @ 75
Week 3 @ 150
Week 4 @ 150
Week 5 @ 300
Week 6 @ 300
Week 7 @ 300
Week 8 @ 375
Test Cyp-(Base)
Week 5 @ 400mg
Week 6 @ 200mg
Week 7 @ 200mg
Week 8 @ 200mg
Week 9 @ 200mg
Week 10 @ 200mg
Week 11 @ 200mg
Week 12 @ 200mg
Dbol:
Week 1 @ 20mg ED
Week 2 @ 20-30mg ED
Week 3 @ 30mg ED
Week 4 @ 30mg ED
TREN ELITE (Prohormone-This is a fairly low dose):
Week 5 @ 30mg ED
Week 6 @ 60mg ED
Week 7 @ 60mg ED
Week 8 @ 60mg ED
Week 9 @ 60mg ED
Week 10 @ 60mg ED
Week 11 @ 60mg ED
EPI (Prohormone-This dose is also on the low end, but good enough)
Week 8 @ 30mg ED
Week 9 @ 30mg ED
Week 10 @ 30mg ED
Week 11 @ 30mg ED
Anti-E/Anti-P:
I will be running Advanced Supps Anti-P, and AquaDex to keep my Prolactin/Estro in order.
I also have Letro/Nolva/Clomid on hand.
If you followed my last log, you know I had a little trouble with puffy nips, but thanks to Presser hooking me up with Anti-P and Letro, everything is all back in order.
It sucked going through that, but I feel so much more comfortable going into this because of all of the help I received from Presser!
Liver Support:
I'll be running Tudca/Udca for liver support. I also have NAC and Milk Thistle, but I'm not sure if I need all that with TUDCA.
Obviously, I'll also be taking a good multi and krill oil.
Wish me Luck!!
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03-16-2015, 06:09 PM #2
Nice looking layout brutha! And yes your last peptide/ph log was one of the biggest viewed threads on the site at that time! So looking forward to following your progress again brutha and Best of Luck to you
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Awesome!
You will love the MC IGF. I love the pumps that it gives me, and I feel like it helps me to lean out even on a high carb diet. It goes great with Trest!
Nothing else I have taken even comes close to it as far as pumps in the gym.
That includes; Test, Trest-Ace, Trest-Deca, Dianadrol, Diabolix, and Dbol.
I ran Superdrol for a bit, but not long enough to compare.
You will just have to find the dose that's right for you.
As little as 20mcg will produce results over time, but if you want the insane pumps, you will most likely need a higher dose than that.
I need between 60-80mcg bilaterally for insane pumps, depending on what muscle group.
If you can't afford to go with the higher doses, just because you don't take enough to get crazy pumps doesn't mean it's not working.
If you don't mind, how are you running your Trest-Ace and Trest-Deca (Dose/Length)?
Anyway, I hope everything goes well for you.
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03-25-2015, 06:20 AM #5
thnx for the review bro
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So, you plan on taking both (Ace and Deca) for 10 weeks total?
That's a fairly high dose, but I've seen much higher doses ran. I'm assuming you've taken them before?
I thought when using Ace and Deca, the purpose was to kickstart with the Ace for a few weeks to give the Deca time to start working. Then drop the Ace.
From what I have read about taking both long and short esters, that's how it should be done. I could be wrong though.
Anyway, that's how I have it planned out.
I may adjust the doses just a touch to get to 8 weeks instead of 6, but we'll see.
I have a several other things in the mix, so I think I should be fine switching over to Test a couple weeks before I run out of Trest-Deca.
I recently placed an order from them (I'm sure you know who), and it has been a mess.
I have never had an issue with them before, but they are jerking me around about my refund.
When I placed the order, the items were showing in stock. A few weeks later, I find out that they were not, so I asked for a refund until they re-up.
They finally canceled the order on 3/17/15, but have yet to issue the refund. It's not just a couple bucks either.
They are very slow to respond, and act like they do not have a clue what they are doing.
It really concerns me, because I have never had an issue with them in the past, and I love their products.
I don't mean to flame them, and I am trying to be optimistic about the whole thing, but my patience is wearing out.
Anyway, just a word of caution.Presser liked this post
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03-25-2015, 05:05 PM #9
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I figure it's like running a form of sustanon only trest not test. The only reason I'm doing it that way is because there were different deals at different times . As for the supplier, they have always been good to me and I trust them. It only takes one time to flush it all away though. The first time I used them( before the oils) they sent my order twice. Made me happy
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03-25-2015, 06:08 PM #10
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I will say they have some of nicest looking vials too.
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Have you tried trest before?
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03-25-2015, 06:23 PM #13
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Indeed.
Don't get me wrong, I am a fan.
Problem is, they have a lot of fans, and it's hard to get anything, because they always run out of everything so freaking fast!
I heard from them today, and they said I should be expecting my refund. It was just a very long process, but we'll see. I'm remaining optimistic.
Good thing I have what I need for now, because they have NOTHING in stock.
I sure wish they could get a better supplier of RAWS!
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Good strength gain? That's what I'm hoping for on this one.
Don't they operate another website? One that sells supplements and PHs. I feel like my receipts had the same 3 letter name on them.Nikon thanked for this post
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I thought so. Is that the famous chemist PH guy that goes by the initials PA?
Sorry I've always just read through various forums but never participated because I was too lazy. Anyway, it's kind of nice to communicate with other like minded people and become more informed.Nikon thanked for this post
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DAY 12 :
Everything is going great. It's only been about a week and a half, and my weight is up from 165 to 172.
I haven't worked out in several months, so I'm sure a lot of it is water/glycogen, but I'll take it.
It could be the Dbol. I haven't ran that before.
I've been running it @ 20 or 30mg /ED before a big meal. I haven't been consistent with the dose.
Man, I have been so Sore!!!
I haven't taken any measurements. I may wait until the 4 week mark for that.
I haven't noticed any sides at all this time. I was expecting an increase in core temp from the Trest, but I haven't noticed it yet.
Libido is definitely up though! That's my favorite side!
I'm getting some insane pumps running the MC IGF @ 60-80mcg on training days. I'm only doing 20mcg on off days.
I forgot how good the pumps were. It's nice to be back on!
If you followed my last log, you know I have a tendency to make adjustments to my doses.
I decided to drop my Trest-Deca to 150mg/Week for the first few weeks (actually 75mg this week), since it takes a while to start working anyway.
That will also allow me to run the Trest-Deca for 8 weeks (300mg/Week starting at week 5). I had a little left from my previous cycle.
I have also kept my Trest-Ace @ 25mg/EOD. I will increase it to 50mg/EOD next week, ans see what happens.
This will also allow me to run the Trest-Ace for 5 or 6 weeks instead of 4, depending on what I do with the dose.
I will add in some test cyp at week 5 to keep my test levels up.
I get bad acne once I hit 400mg/Week, so I'd like to keep it on the low side just as a base (200-250mg/Week).
I have 2 brands of test (Watson 200mg - Which is prescribed, and Gen-Shi 250mg Which is not). As of right now, I have 25ml total.
I'm not sure which one to take, because I know there is a chance that the Gen-Shi could be under-dosed, or fake. Any suggestions?
Also, since things are going so well, I may wait another week to add in the Tren, (Just have to wait and see how things go).
I see no need to keep adding when things are going well.
Anyway, I wanted to mention that the company I was having issues with has finally cleared everything up.
I received my refund, and they sent me a coupon for 20% off my next order plus free shipping.
They also sent me 1 bottle of Albuterol for FREE! It's not enough for a complete cycle, but it's at least enough to try and see how my body reacts to it.
I hate that I flamed them a bit, but it did take a while to get my refund.
I will continue to do business with them, and I still recommend them.
It's good to know that there are still companies that care about their customers.
I haven't started cardio yet, but my girl and I have decided to get into riding Mountain Bikes.
She already got hers, and she loves it (THANK GOD). Don't mean to be mean, but she could lose a few lbs.
She has it where it counts, but I'd like to see her tighten things up a bit, and just be more healthy overall.
I have lost 40lbs of fat, and gained 10lbs of muscle since we started dating, so it would be nice for to make an effort.
Anyway, I'm getting my bike this weekend.
That should be it for now. Thanks for following!
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Yes sir I wanted to be paralyzed. Had a hell of a pump but I still had mobility.
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If you hadn't tried pinning IM in the muscle you are working, you really should. You will have much better success than with subq bro.
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I love Trest and IGF! I've gained 5lbs, but I'm leaning out at the same time, so I'm getting a nice little recomp.
I also increased my Dbol to 40mg/ed from 20mg/ed this week, but haven't really noticed any change from it. I have some doubts about it being real, because I've been taking it for 5 weeks now. Seems like I should be growing a little more from that.
Anyway, I've been so busy with school I haven't taken the time to give you guys updates. I'm sorry about that, but I'll take some measurements and post an update asap.
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6 Week Update:
So, I took measurements yesterday, and I have LOST 1" in my arms, AND 1" in my thighs.
I have gained 3-4lbs, but I don't know where that went, because all of my other measurements are the same.
I do feel like I've dropped a little more fat. My obliques are looking tighter, so no complaints there.
I guess overall, I did get a small recomp, but I can't make sense of the loss of size in my arms, especially.
I'm pretty frustrated considering this is the first time I have taken Dbol, and I was expecting so much more.
I'm afraid it may not be legit, or maybe I just don't respond well to it.
I don't want to bash it before I discuss this with my source. That wouldn't be cool.
I ran Dbol like this: (I did occasionally run it at 30mg the first few weeks)
20/20/20/20/40/40
I have also been running Trest the whole time.
This makes me think the gains from my last cycle were from the Dianadrol (Pro Hormone).
I have been running the Trest-Deca at:
150/150/150/150/225/225 Weekly
and the Trest-Ace EOD at:
25/25/25/50/25/25
That should have been plenty of Trest on top of the Dbol to make some gains, but definitely not LOSSES.
I have also been running MCigf the entire time.
I have been running bilaterally every day at (for the first few weeks, I only did 20mcg on off days):
40/40/40/40/80/80
I went really light on the AI this time. I had no Gyno issues at all.
I ran A-Dex at .5 2x/week, if that.
I have also been using Anti-P @ .25 every 10 days.
I feel that 6 weeks is definitely long enough for the Dbol, so I am finished with it.
I am out of Trest-Ace, and I am lowering the Trest-Deca to 150mg/Week for a few weeks.
I'm starting back on my Test Cyp 200-250mg/week, next week to get it back into my system.
I will continue to use the MCigf. I'm gonna run it all summer (I'm hoping that's what's making me more vascular).
I need to get my test levels back to a fairly normal range before I start my cutting cycle, because I will be running DTA for the first time.
If you take anything with it that aromatizes, it is said to increase those effects, so I'll just be taking my HRT dose of Test.
I'm also going to work my way into some EPI/TREN. I've never taken these either, but I know a lot of people swear by it for cutting/hardening.
I'm hoping this will help me look a little better for summer.
Not sure what else to say.
I have been working out hard M-F, making some gains in strength, but not much.
I know my diet could definitely be better. I eat really clean, but I know I need more calories.
School has been really tough, and it's made it difficult to eat every couple hours like my last cycle.
Either way, it seems like my diet is strong enough that I shouldn't be getting smaller.
I'm gonna measure again ED for the next few days just to make sure something weird isn't going on.
Anyway, I'll probably stop here with this log.
I'm in the middle of finals, and a little pissed off about the measurements, so I'm taking this week off to focus on school.
I may start another log for my cutting cycle in a month (mainly to represent MCigf), but honestly this one was a little embarrassing.
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04-28-2015, 08:52 AM #37
yeah bro you should have blown up from the dianabol, so i think your right in questioning that as it doesn't sound right at all.
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Thanks man. I agree.
I just contacted the rep to see what he says.
You think it's possible I just got a bad batch?
I don't want to be a jerk about it, but It's pretty frustrating to spend 6 weeks busting your ass hoping for something more.Presser liked this post
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04-28-2015, 09:25 AM #39
yes thats quite possible with most any brand or company. You should see and feel dianabol within days even if ur sitting on your ass and not training!
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Rep responded, but he didn't read my entire message.
I posted a link to this log and my previous log.
He thought I was just running Dbol by itself, so we'll see what he says.
Really the only thing I changed was switching out the Dianadrol with Dbol this time.
My last cycle went so well, I didn't see much reason to change much.
I really think I should have had better results with this cycle with the Dbol though?
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So, I just heard back from the rep, and the guys at PSL decided not to do anything for me.
That's where I got my Dbol from, and I'm sure I got a bad batch or something (It had to be!).
The rep did say he would give me a discount on my next order (which I'm not sure I'll be making).
I mean, I know I started out at only 20-30mg/ED for the first 4 weeks, but I did run it at 40mg/ED for a full 2 Weeks, and this was my first time ever taking Dbol.
Either way, That's still a 6 week run of Dbol with no results.
In fact, I lost size! I should have at the VERY least retained some water from it!
I was hoping that they would at least send me some that is legit, so I could get a feel for Dbol, but now I am apprehensive of ordering that from them again.
I know they seem to have a good rep here, but there's also the possibility that some of these guys that review them are connected to PSL in some way.
Anyway, I'm just gonna have to count it as a loss. I have a little more left, but what's the point in taking it if it's no good?
The whole thing is just pretty frustrating. I'm sure you guys can understand my frustration.
I busted my ass for the last 6 weeks, and this was my last chance to bulk before summer.
Oh well... Time to prepare for my cut.
Thanks PSL!
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Well why would they want to send you more bad gear for free. They need to get their money's worth before the game is up.
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yeah thats pretty weak over 60$ maybe they will reconsider once they see this
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So, if any of you guys have spent much time here, you know that Presser is, without a doubt, a stand up guy.
He decided to take this into his hands and make sure it was made right.
He spoke with the guys at PSL, and they are re-sending some Dbol.
I really didn't want to make a big deal out of all of this. I was just trying to post my experience.
I still plan to purchase a Test Kit and test the tabs when they get here.
I trust Presser, but I figure $22 including shipping is a small price to pay for piece of mind.
I think there may have been some miscommunication between me and the rep, and I apologize for that.
Anyway, I'll keep you guys posted on how things go.
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Good for you bro. Appreciate the info. Where do you get the test kits?
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