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10-29-2016, 03:26 PM #1
How to measure IGF-1 lr3 micrograms on 100 and 50 unit syringes, and I will explain the bact water versus acetic acid confusion
If any members have a suggestion for an article they would like to see written, or has a question that needs an indepth explanation. Please post your suggestion or questions here and I will choose a couple to write about for musclechem.
First i will be writing two exclusive musclechem articles on the following.
1st) How to measure your igf-1 lr3 microgram dosage with a 100 unit syringe and with a 50 unit. with photo illustration and-or video tutorial.
2nd) I will try to explain the confusion as to why so many people think it is ok to use bacteriostatic water or sterile water as an IGF-1 lr3 diluent.
Since the latter does not need illustration or video, i will start here with this topic and give the fast and easy explanation and show you where the confusion arises from.
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10-30-2016, 01:16 PM #2
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10-30-2016, 04:37 PM #3
I'll definitely be checking in on this
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I do hope that my images below help you all better understand how to measure out micrograms for your 1mg/ml "1,000mcgs" IGF-1 Lr3 when using a 100 Unit and 50 Unit Insulin Syringe.
IGF-1 lr3 1mg/ml which is 1,000 micrograms in total.
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11-10-2016, 11:21 AM #9
ok, sticking it now to the top of this forum! Fantastic run down on how to dose out your long r3 igf-1
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12-02-2016, 10:32 AM #10
Awesome post! defiantly answered some questions I had!
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12-15-2016, 09:33 AM #12
We need to add .3cc Syringe Measurements to this article. Member slim asked this last week, and though its rare to see people using these syringes, we should still make sure to add this to the list here on how to measure IGF-1 lr3 in MCGS with various sized syringes
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01-06-2017, 01:24 PM #14
Adding "How to Measure IGF-1 Lr3 with 50 Unit and 100 Unit syringes" to store articles section at https://www.MuscleChemAdvancedSupps.com
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01-30-2017, 07:52 AM #15
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My pins are 50 units per 1/2 ml.
So what are 100 unit ones? Are they per 1/2 ml or 1ml?
This is confusing.
Anyway I just measured out to third line mark on 50 unit 1/2 ml. u-100 insulin syringe. If I want to use bilateral do I needed to use half dose in two or can I pin half then half on other side?
And with 8mm length needle can I go in muscle or just under skin?
To go under skin do I pinch and do it like that or what?
To avoid confusion if pin sizes and holding ml amounts were listed it would of been clear to me. I am not familiar with every size and type of unit pin and the capacity per meaning 1ml or 1/2ml for example.GotTren liked this post
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01-30-2017, 08:44 AM #16
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I believe the 100unit is for 1ml. I use the 50unit 1/2 ml aswell. If you were doing a bilateral injection, yes you would split the dose and hit evenly on each side. About your needle length, it'll be tough to hit muscle with 8mm length. But good thing about igf it doesn't have to be an im injection. But if it was me I would actually stretch my skin instead of pinching for fat. To get the deepest injection possible
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01-30-2017, 08:52 AM #17
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Thanks for the reply.
But please give me a straight answer to this question! WHAT IS MEASUREMENT ON 5O UNIT 1/2ML PIN? 5 UNITS IS 100 MCG OF MC igf???
I just pinned for first time. I did in abdomen because I was unsure. I did 3units on 50 unit 1/2 ml pin.
I pinch skin and did in abdomen in sub tissue.
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01-30-2017, 09:07 AM #18
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Sorry let me explain throughly. Insulin pins come in three sizes. A 30unit 3/10cc (3/10ml)a 50unit 5/10cc (1/2ml) and 100unit 1cc (1ml).
You just injected 60mcg igf. Count by 20"s per line on 1/2ml (50unit) slin pin
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01-30-2017, 09:13 AM #19
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Ok thanks. So 5 units is 100 MCG OF igf
Would this be correct ?
On 100 unit pin each line is 10 mcg
On 50 unit pin each line is 20 mcg
??? ????
That's why I only did 3rd line cause I figured if I was wrong I would only be at 60 mcg. It's all good thanks!
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Yes sir you got it my brother! I know it is a little confusing at first. Now go get that pump on brother! I find that it works best for me a eat about 20-30g of carbs about 20 mins of pin and then pin 30 mins before workout.
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01-30-2017, 10:42 AM #21
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I did pack and 1/2 of apple cinnamon instant oatmeal inside about 45 grams of protein ate 1/2 banana took my anavar drove 20 minutes to gym then then pinned and workout for an hour. I pinned in abdomen.
I will try bilateral with my 8mm pins in muscles. I believe I can get into muscle for sure especially pushing against all the way.
Tomorrow I will have more time I was wasting time at home trying to figure it out. Lol
To do by lateral in my opinion it would be better to change needle and do half and half on other side if not some will stay in two instead of one, the remaining little bit.
And it will be hard to measure less than that amount in two pins so think I will stay around 50 mcg. 25 to 30 bilateral I will try.
Today in abdomen I noticed nothing different except dry mouth.
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So the 10 line marker on the 100cc is 100mcg? Since you multiply each tick by 10?
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This is great info. The pics we're very handy too & saves a lot of confusion for someone who has never used an insulin syringe
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05-25-2017, 12:28 PM #27
How to measure in micrograms with 1miligram per 1 milliliter of igf 1 lr3 ! Bumping for the member who just pmed me as well anyone else unsure
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Something I wanted to add is my 50 unit slin pins hold 1/2 no
My 100 unit hold 1ml
There is no difference in measuring at all.
50 unit 1/2 ml slin pins hold 1/2 amount as 100 unit only.
10 units on either of mine are 100mcg of IGF
Never understood the photos in post and still don't.
U cannot fit 1000mcg if igf 1 from MC inside a 50 unit 1/2 no slin pin!!
If i am wrong then something is wrong!
But I don't think I am!!!
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11-19-2017, 01:55 AM #30
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As I said mine come 100 unit at 1ml
And 50 unit at 1/2 ml
This post confused me and I was doing wrong amount for a long time.
So look for 100 unit at 1ml
And 50 unit at 1/2ml
I never looked this is all my Wal-Mart supplies.
I think other types in post are for animals!!
Not sure but I checked my Wal-Mart and they told me they have none at 50 per 1ml
Just 50 at 1/2ml
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11-19-2017, 02:06 AM #31
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To avoid any confusion before using anything learn what a an ml is and how many ml per total volume.
If u have 1mg or 1000mcg and it's in 1ml of liquid then go figure.
Division is simple
U gotta figure if your pin can hold all or half.
Meaning 1ml or 1/2 or even 1/3.
These is a photo of what I see.
The photo in post I never have seen.
But it doesn't matter. U can go no further till u know contents of pin u using compared to contents of total in vial.
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11-19-2017, 08:16 PM #32
I dont understand why anyone would even try fitting 1,000mcg into .3, .5 or 1cc pin or why that matters? Only way that would matter is if someone wanted to store the entire 1,000mcg in the syringe the whole time, aside from that , it doesn’t matter whether they use any of the 3 sizes mentioned above.
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12-21-2017, 03:22 PM #33
Forgive my ignorance...
So on a 1mL (100 unit) slin-pin, each line is 20 mcg. (1000 mcg is 100 units on these pins)?
At 20 mcg. a day of IGF-LR3, that would last 50 days. Of course it goes up each line for dosage.
But just trying to confirm the basics, thanks for the info and putting up with my stupidity.
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12-21-2017, 03:50 PM #34
on a 1ml x 100 unit syringe, you multiply everything by 10 to get your mcg’s. Each unit times 10 . So the 10 mark is 100mcg and 20 mark is 200 mcg , 30 mark is 300mcgs, so on and so forth.
So it depends how many lines/tick marks you have in between each numbered measurement.
So if it was a filled up syringe thats 1,000mcgs as our igf-1 lr3 comes 1mg/ml (1,000mcg)
But do not fill your syringe with the entire bottles contents as it needs to stay in vial for optimum viability
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That's not what I am saying lol!!!
If your pin is 1ml or 100 units then each 10 mark is 100 mcg if MC IGF
Or is your slin pin is 1/2ml 50units then each 10 mark is 100mcg of MC IGF
The lines are marks between the 10 mark and the 0 should be figured from there!!!
Why this is confusing because photo OP posted shows a 1ml 100mcg slin pin next
To a 50 unit 1ml slin pin. Lol!!!
I posted correct photo on available slin pins most common.
A little further I am versed with mixing my own peptides and hgh!!!
If we have 10 iu hgh in a vial and we put 1ml of water then each 10 unit Mark is
1 iu of hgh!!!
1ml is 1ml and 1/2 is 1/2ml period!!!
If we have a 100 unit 1ml slin pin then each 10 unit mark is 1/10th of total volume.
Count lines between 10 and 0 to figure from there.
If we have a 50 unit 1/2 ml slin pin every 10 mark is still Gonna be 1/10th of 1ml is our total volume of liquid in MC IGF is 1ml of liquid total in vial.
And MC IGF indeed is 1000mcg or 1mg per 1ml liquid volume in vial pre mixed.
U don't draw whole thin to measure, lmao!!!!
U read your bottle 1000mcg per 1ml!!!
U read your pin 100 units per 1ml
Or 50 units per 1/2ml
As said original photo in lost shows
A 100 unit per 1ml next to a 50 unit per 1ml
Which makes it all wrong.
Switch that to a 100 unit 1ml slin
And a 50 unit 1/2ml slin and it will be correct
Now let me double check photo cause is was wrong for a long time now!!!
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Yes verified completely wrong 1000mcg MC IGF or any thing in 1000 mcg in 1ml of liquid with never ever fit in a 50 unit 1/2ml slin pin or any 1/2 ml pin!!!
I screwed up from this photo instead of doing my math first time.
Here is OP's photo that is wrong
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What is wrong here?? Take a look at my post above each of them please follow my instructions.
Because 50 units per 1/2 ml slin
Is same as 50 units on 100 unit 1ml slin.
There will never ever be a volume change for amount of ml.
Look at photo OP photo.
MC IGF is 1000mcg per 1ml
OP made error and this errors may not hurt us with MC IGF and dosing it wrong BUT
Someone can use same diagram and screw up with slin or any peptide.
I am not confused and sorry but only helping and stating the facts
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To correct OP photo the 50 unit 1/2 ml pin would only have capacity of 500mcg compared to 1000mcg on the on the 100 unit 1ml pin.
It is completely wrong period!!!!
And each 5 mark is 50mcg not another 100mcg.
Please edit this confusing photo that is wrong I misused my IGF until I noticed and had countless people ask me how to do it correct because of confusion
TELL ME HOW CAN 1000MCG OF MC IGF IN 1ML OF LIQUID WILL FIT IN A 50 UNIT 1/2 ML PIN PLEASE!!!
IT'S LIKE FITTING 2 PINTS IN 1 PINT!!! LOL!!
THIS SCREWED ME UP!!! But my fault I always do own math on mg to ml, units per ml and down the line.
I Google search 50 unit 1ml pins and haven't yet to find!!!
I also asked at pharmacy and online lab suppliers I have found none!!!
So the photo showing a 1000mcg MC IGF capacity on both 100 unit 1ml pins and 50 unit 1/2ml is impossible and on both 50 unit and 100 unit every 10 unit mark is 100 mcg if 1mg which = 1000mcg is in 1ml of liquid don't care what is the compound!!!
Lol!!
It's simple:
Mg or mcg is a weight!!!
ML is a volume of liquid!!!
Units are increments on slin pin meant to measure insulin and dummy proof for diabetics to follow label on bottle!!!!
An iu of hgh is an amount of powder of hgh meant to have a certain potency rather than just a weight. Mixing hgh requires same rule of thumb.
If u have 10 iu in a vial add 1ml of BA water or B12 for example. If u used a 100 unit 1ml pin to draw Ba water or b12 it's still 1ml. Each 10 mark is 1 iu hgh after mixed and ready to draw.
U can grab a 50 unit 1/2ml slin pin and draw 10 units and it's still 1 iu hgh!!! Yes sir!!!!
On top of that if u had same another 10 iu vial of hgh to mix. But u only have 50 unit 1/2ml slin pins!!! Then u would fill up twice with ba water or b12 and add to hgh 10 iu vial to mix. It's still same thing grab your 50 unit slin pin and draw to 10 unit mark for 1 iu hgh and so on......
I can explain with mcg or mg or grams etc etc....
I use peptides, MC IGF, IGF that is mixed before use and also in kits of 10x100mcg vial, igf......
I said more than enough but i felt I had to because photo wrong and misleading messed me up for sure!!!!
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What matters is this boss.
Look at photo in sticky post.
It's wrong!!! That is my point!!!
It shows 1000 mcg on a 50unit 1/2ml pin and says to multiply each tick of 50 tick total times 20 which = 1000!!!!
This is wrong each 10 mark on 50 unit or 100 unit is still 100mcg.
Difference is that.
There is no change in a unit period!!!
Not if they are standard 100 unit 1ml slin pins and 50 unit 1/2ml slin pins!!
Here is problem below in photo I wrote 500 mcg MC IGF capacity over the one showing 5 units to be 100mcg instead of the correct 50mcg of MC IGF
My 500 means 500 mcg total capacity not 1000 as shown. Each 10 mark is same as 100 unit pin equaling 100mcg of MC IGF on both period!!!
So to set this straight it doesn't matter 50 unit 1/2ml pins or 100 unit 1ml pins both have same dose of anything per unit.
Not a different amount like photo shows.
The only difference in either is the capacity that would matter in mixing or what ever.
The unit mark is just an increment not anything else.
Except in insulin 50 unit has 5 Mark and is giving for smaller doses that require 45 units instead of 60 for example.
It is all coded and named on insulin script instructions to avoid a mistake that would... Rich P.... someone.
Not being smart ass but making sure someone sees what i see and stop screwing up like I did on my first IGF run from MC!!
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I will now keep quiet and hope I helped avoid confusion.
Didn't mean to be smart ass BUT this keeps getting over looked and should be corrected.
There is no multiplying for dosing.
Dividing a volume by an increment after reading label of a weight of substance in a volume we want to measure is safe and necessary.
MC IGF is 100mcg per 10 units on any standard slin pin For humans period!!!
That is simple enough for me!!!
On slin pins with a 5 mark u have 50mcg of MC IGF on 5 mark.
Sorry for the rant or what ever but again trying to explain so we all can be safe and use MC IGF correct
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01-18-2018, 10:05 AM #47
I could be wrong, but believe it should say 10mcg per tick even on a 50 i.u. syringe so long as that 50 i.u. syringe is half an ml or .5ml . However I.U. is not a weight measurement nor a volume measurement, I believe its a biological effects measurement the drugs activity is what i.u. measure which can vary , so this was standardized across boarders, I think lmao
Unless they do make a 50 I.U. syringe that holds a volume of 1 full ml, which I have no idea, but im guessing they’re most always .5ml which means, yes you do NOT change anything at all when measuring it out as you would on a 100 i.u. . You multiple each mark by 10 to get your mcg dosage whenever somehting is 1mg/ml
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Am OCD and have trouble being satisfied with it I explained well enough!
Was just concerned on getting photo corrected. I actually posted too much. Was editing and re-writing post while watching movie and playing game with my son.
I think I inserted previous post not posted when I would go back then didn't notice. Lol!!!
I forgot how to operate things...
No I haven't posted or even had phone in a bit took a vacation got some rest, ate shit food and getting back in gym.
It's all good and getting better just need to be more tolerant in sutuations....
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