Powder Conversion Instructions

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Most of these recipes can be done with less than the recommended amounts of ba and bb, but you will need to change the amount of oil in the recipe if you do. Use the powder converter sticky to find the appropriate amounts.

Test Enanthate 5 gram conversion

Needed
5 grams test E
Benzyl Alcohol 1ml 5% BA
15.25 ml sesame oil
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 guage needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 5 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 20ml @ 250mg/ml


Test Enanthate 10 gram conversion

Needed
10 grams test E
Benzyl Alcahol 2ml 5% BA
30.5 ml sesame oil
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 guage needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 10 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 40ml @ 250mg/ml


Test Cypionate 5 gram conversion

Needed
5 grams test c
Benzyl Alcahol 1ml 5% BA
15.25 ml sesame oil
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 guage needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 5 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 20ml @ 250mg/ml


Test Cypionate 10 gram conversion

Needed
10 grams test c
Benzyl Alcahol 2ml 5% BA
30.5 ml sesame oil
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 guage needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 10 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 40ml @ 250mg/ml


EQ for 5 grams of powder
(eq is actually liquid at room temp.)

5 grams EQ
20.50 ml oil
.75 ba 3% BA
Syringes
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 5 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 25ml @ 200mg/ml

1 ml of EQ is 1.18 grams
Grams * 0.85 = ml of Bold Undec to use.

EQ is virtually idiot proof, so I would recommend making all of your product in one sitting if you have more than 5 or 10 grams of EQ, instead of trying to weigh out 5 or 10 grams of it.


EQ for 10 grams of powder
(eq is actually liquid at room temp.)

10 grams EQ
41 ml oil
1.5 ba 3% BA
Syringes
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 10 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 50ml @ 200mg/ml

1 ml of EQ is 1.18 grams
Grams * 0.85 = ml of Bold Undec to use.

EQ is virtually idiot proof, so I would recommend making all of your product in one sitting if you have more than 5 or 10 grams of EQ, instead of trying to weigh out 5 or 10 grams of it.


Test Prop for 5 grams

5 grams powder
36.25 ml sesame oil
2.5ml Benzyl AlcoholA 5%
7.5ml Benzyl Benzoate 15%
Syringes
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 5 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA & BB to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 50 ml @ 100mg/ml


Test Prop for 10 grams

10 grams powder
72.5 ml sesame oil
5ml Benzyl AlcoholA 5%
15ml Benzyl Benzoate 15%
Syringes
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 10 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA & BB to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 100 ml @ 100mg/ml


Deca for 5 grams

5 grams powder
18.75ml sesame oil
1.25ml BA 5%
1.25ml BB 5%
Syringes
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 5 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA & BB to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 25 ml @ 200 mg/ml


Deca for 10 grams

10 grams powder
37.5 ml sesame oil
2.5ml BA 5%
2.5ml BB 5%
Syringes
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 10 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA & BB to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 50 ml @ 200 mg/ml


Tren (Powder not pellets) for 5 grams

5 grams tren powder
43.75 ml sesame oil
2.5 ml BA 5%
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 guage needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 5 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 50 ml @ 100mg/ml


Tren (powder not pellets) for 10 grams

10 grams tren powder
84.5 ml sesame oil
5 ml BA 5%
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc
18 or 20 guage needles
Vial
Sterile Vial
Whatman sterile filter

1. Weigh out 10 grams of powder.
2. Place powder in vial.
3. Add BA to the vial.
4. Heat oil in the oven to help sterilize it, heat to at least 212 degrees F. I usually heat my oil at 275 to be sure, I put the oil in a muffin pan, just fill one of the indentions this is plenty for these experiments. Also heat more oil than you need, as you will not be able to get it all out of the pan.
5. Add oil to the vial, save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for later. Gently shake vial.
6. Heat mixture if necessary. I like heating my powder products, by placing the vial in a frying pan, and placing it on the eye of the stove.
7. Place a 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial attach whatman sterile filter.
8. Place another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressure.
9. Draw out solution with a syringe, run though whatman filter.
10. Take other syringe with 2ml oil, run through whatman into solution.

Makes 100 ml @ 100mg/ml

your the shit bro,, thanks.. bump!

hey got any for winny oil or water....

How To Make Injectable Winstrol In Oil
By: Harvey Balboner, MOD@ http://www.**********.com
Supplies:
1 Gram winstrol
1 20 ml glass vial or larger
1 20 ml sterile glass vial or larger
1 .45 Whatman sterile syringe filter.
2 5 or 10 ml syringes
2 3 ml syringes
3 18 or 20 gauge pins
2 22 gauge pins
17 ml of sesame seed oil
.2 ml of benzyl alcohol
2 ml of Mr. T super solvent (http://www.f*****t.8k.com/index.html) or Animals super solvent (http://www.a********s.be/) Research Kits, may have a similar solvent, but I'm not sure. I am using Mr. T super solvent.

This will make 20ml at 50mg/ml.

Tip: Only try to convert winstrol powder 1 gram at a time, it is very easy to ruin it in the conversion.

Step 1

Weigh out 1 gram of winstrol powder, you will need a scale (I got mine here http://u***************s.com/) use the tare function to take away the weight of the container that holds your powder, and weigh it out to 1 gram.

Step 2

Draw out 2 ml of the super solvent, using 1 of the 3 ml syringes.

Step 3

Place the powder in the open glass vial, then add the super solvent to the powder in the vial.

Step 4

A:
Place back on rubber stopper, put one of the 20g pins in the stopper. Place the vial in a small pan, and place on eye of the stove (you can do this step in the oven, but I have found this method works better). Cut on heat, heat until powder dissolves into a liquid (the melting point of winstrol is between 239.8-242 degrees F). Turn off heat, and let it cool down still in the pan, until it reaches room temp. again takes about 15 minutes.

B:
Also heat sesame oil (heat more than 17ml because you won't get it all out) it can be heated on a stove eye, or in the oven, I heated mine in the oven in a muffin pan, the oil needs to reach 212 F., to help sterilize the oil. I put mine in the oven at 275 F. Just to make sure.

Step 5

Draw out .2 ml of benzyl alcohol, this is 1% of the final solution. It is very important that you do not use more than 1% of the solution with winstrol, or it could crash when finished.

Step 6

Add BA to the solution in the vial. Shake very gently.

Step 7a

Draw out the oil with the 10 ml syringe, (Be sure you have allowed it to cool down some) add the 15ml of oil to the solution. Shake very gently again.

**Note - After adding the oil to the solution the winstrol may begin to clump up back into a powder, if it does, you just need to reheat it again like in Step 4a, remember to let it cool slowly. My powder did this, and this took care of it.**

Step 7b

Save 2 ml of oil in the syringe, and re-cap it. You need this later during the sterile filter process to make sure none of the winstrol is left in the filter.

Step 8

Place 1 of the 18 gauge pins in the sterile unopened vial, and attach the Whatman sterile filter.

Draw out the solution using the other 10ml syringe, attach to the filter, and slowly press solution into the sterile vial.

Then use the remaining 2ml of oil in the other syringe, to run through the filter, to make sure that none of the winstrol is left in the filter.

Step 9

After filtering, leave the pin in the sterile vial, remove the filter. Place the vial in a small pan, and place on eye of the stove (you can do this step in the oven, but I have found this method works better). Cut on heat, heat solution for about 15 to 20 minutes. Turn off heat, and let it cool down still in the pan, until it reaches room temp. again this takes about 15 minutes.

Finished Product

It should be a light gold color.

Also I wanted to thank Basskiller for his help on this.

here's a thread for water based, pretty informational. i do not know the guy describing how to do it so i cannot vouch for him at all, just providing info.

http://www.conversionboard.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=779

originally posted by spydie @ c************d.com
New Method for making WATER based winny and test
Take some distilled water, and add 1-2% BA.
Add a surfactant to the water (polysorbate 80 and Carboxymethylcellulose both work well for this), and mix thoroughly.

Now take 7ml's of this, and run it through a .2um sterile syringe filter, into a sterile 10ml vial. Remove the filter, and needles from the vial for now. You now have 7ml's of sterile water containing surfactant.

Now take 1 gram of either test base, or winny powder, and put it in a vial with 2 ml's super solvent. Heat it until it is completely dissolved.

Allow it to cool slightly, and draw it up in a 3cc syringe......now run this through a .45 sterile syringe filter, into the vial that contains the sterile water/surfactant.

Remove the filter and needles from the vial, and shake it up.

The test/winny will precipitate out in the water, but it has been micronized by running it through the filter, so this can easily be injected using a 25g needle.

This gives you a nice water based suspension......no clumps, no crystals.

Actually, you could also do this with your winny, and take it orally, and you wouldn't have the nasty everclear taste.

Hope this helps..

IIA

spydie..

thanks big flex..supewr solvent? must be animals thing...lol
just use bact water..lol

Hey Flex...what is the advantage of a water base?Does that go for all types of test?

thanks

advantage of test base (ie suspension) is its fast acting requiring daily or multiple daily shots but you get 100 percent of it.

its also the most painful

no not all forms of test can be water based...like the molecular weight of enthanate will seperate and form layers.
just a quick answer.

strider's right. i don't know if you know about esterless gear, but when you use test enanthate for example, part of the 250mg is ester. so it's not really 250mg of testosterone. with esterless gear 100mg of test suspension is 100mg of test. i know i have the ester weights somewhere for the main forms of test (prop, cyp, enanth...), i'll see if i can find it.

Yes I understand(I think)...its like test cyp, and test en, one has a longer chian and therefore the molecular weights are different, where as there is little difference but one has more test per mg them the other...am I catching on?
Also with the water base how small could you go gage wise on the pin?

thanks guys!

Peace!

ester difference

pretty close, and yeah your catching on!
Now my chemistry lesson as I learned it.
the benefit of aqueous testosterone over the other forms of test is the lack of ester, as it provides 100 percent of the active ingredient.
some esters may account for one third of the dose. so if you have 100mgs of aqueous test provides 100mgs of test whereas the long chain esters of test (enthanate, deconate, cypionate) will only provide 65-75 mgs of test per 100mgs. so the same dose of an agueous based test or winny will act quicker and with great impact than with other esters.
there are many drawbacks to this but also many benefits to this, but thats another conversation
as for the pin it will have to be a 23-22 guage and sometimes smaller but I have had problems with 25g with this.
It will blow you up big and fast though but can be very unconfomatable.. did this help?

Absolutley!

Thanks!

no problem big guy..

strider said:

no problem big guy..

Click to expand...

LOL...big guy compared to who?....I'm ...trying...to ..get..to ...200...but at 5'4"...its...getting...tough.....

thats understood, try being 6'1 244 thats hard to get to as well..lol

here is the molecular weights for most test esters and test base ie. (supension/aqueous test...)
Testosterone Cypionate
Molecular Weight: 412.6

Testosterone Decanoate
Molecular Weight: 442.7

Testosterone Enanthate
Molecular Weight: 400.6

Testosterone Isocaproate
Molecular Weight: 386.6

Testosterone Phenylpropionate
Molecular Weight: 420.6

Testosterone Propionate
Molecular Weight: 344.5

Testosterone Undecanoate
Molecular Weight: 456.7

Testosterone (no ester attached)
Molecular Weight: 288.4

so if the molecular weight of testosterone with no ester is 288.4, then anything over 288.4 is ester. for example: look at testosterone propionate, it's molecular weight is 344.5. therefore it's ester (propionate) weighs 56.1. so the ester accounts for 16% of the total dosage(56.1 divided by 344.5= .16). so if you are shooting 100mg of test prop ed, then you're really getting 84mg of test ed because the ester accounts for the other 16. but if you're shooting 100mg of test susp. everyday then it's all testosterone.

thats what i said..lol hey even if its in oil right? howver the dispersal might be longer acting so it will be unsure of dispersal and in what mgs right?

OK....slow down boys....I got to chew....No, really this is excellent stuff, excactly what I want to know.I appreciate everything.


Peace

strider- yeah, it's the same even in oil because the test still has no ester(i think that's what you were asking?), you could be right about the dispersal but i'm not sure how much longer it would last. i'd still do ed injections of course. i'm definately going to make it in oil because there's less pain due to the oil taking longer to dissipate.

willieman-this is nothin' bro. anyone can learn this just by reading and taking time to digest it all. this is a really great board, a lot of bro's are truely top notch!