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    Default Info on Supertren

    Ive only been able to find limited information regarding supertren.

    For those who unaware of the compound its a very potent, fast acting Tren at 2000mcg/ml.

    From the research ive done so far its generally used pre-workout starting at 0.25ml dose and people have upped the dose up to 1ml. Used for 4-8 weeks at a time.

    People have reported a huge increase in aggression and strength and as a result have seen dramatic change in their body composition.

    Im just wondering if anyone on here can add any knowledge or experiance they have had with this compound?
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    sorry bro i have only used regualr tren ace in the past and could not imagine anything being better then that, so im intrigued i suppose
     

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    that seems way to strong to be real IDK about that one
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    tren Ace did wonders for me, in a short time, I'd like to hear more about this other stuff.
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    Sounds like people would be pissing blood at 2 grams of tren every workout. lol. I could only imagine how bad the night sweats would be. ha.

    Honestly, sounds fake...I don't know how they could even suspend that much tren in 1ml.
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    exactly^^^^^^
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    My bad! ive now acquired some and its 2000mcg/ml not 2000mg/ml as i originally thought. The chemical compound name is methyltrienolone, it was originally produced as an oral form of trenbolone but they have now created an injectable version.

    Here is a little bit of info i found on the oral version:

    Methyltrienolone

    Methyltrienolone MT

    [17beta-Hydroxy-17-methylestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one]
    Formula: C19H2402 Molecular Weight: 284.38
    Melting Point: 170C
    Manufacturer: Negma (never released), Underground Labs
    Effective dose: 500-750mcgs/day
    Active Life: 4-6hours
    Detection Time: Unknown (Probably up to 6 weeks)
    Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range, estimated):12,000-30,000/6,000-7,000

    Methyltrienolone (MT) is a very potent, reasonably toxic, non-aromatizing steroid.
    MT is potent since it binds so strongly to the AR (androgen receptor) that it is often used in studies on other androgens to measure how strongly they bind. In other words, this stuff binds onto the AR receptor so strongly that it is pretty much the benchmark for that quality. If you’ve read my profile on trenbolone acetate (TA), you’ll note that I said TA is the most potent injectable weapon in our arsenal with regards to ability to bind to the androgen receptor. That’s still true, because this particular compound is not in our arsenal, and it’s simply the oral version of TA (i.e. it is trenbolone which has undergone modification to become orally active, via the addition of a 17-alph-methyl group).

    So why is it important that this stuff binds so tightly to the AR? Androgen receptors are found in both fat cells and muscle cells (8); they act on the AR in muscle cells to promote growth, and in the fat cells to affect fat burning (9)(6). The stronger the androgen binds to the AR, the higher the lipolytic (fat burning) effect on adipose (fat) tissue (9)(5). Unfortunately, that strong binding doesn’t also automatically mean that it will elicit the strongest possible anabolic response, nor that the weakest bind will elicit a weak anabolic response. Anadrol has the weakest bind to the AR possible (too low to be measured), and it produces a profound anabolic response, for example. Don’t be fooled by the anabolic/androgenic ratio of this (or any steroid) either. The anabolic/androgenic ratio of MT would suggest that it produces 5-times the anabolic and androgenic effect of testosterone (which has a score of 100 and 100 respectively). If one were able to get a bottle of this stuff, I believe it would be best used as part of a cutting cycle, stacked with some injectables (testosterone, etc…), but certainly no other orals. It’s just too toxic. Negma (the French company who brought Parabolan to the market, and then discontinued it) never pushed MT to gain approval as a commercially released item, since their original studies showed it to be highly toxic.
    But, remember, AR’s are found in muscle tissue as well. When a muscle’s AR is stimulated, it can induce hypertrophy. When an adipose tissue’s AR is stimulated, through various related mechanisms, fat is lost. This is a gross oversimplification. All we need to know is that when you have a steroid that binds to the AR, it builds muscle and burns fat, and a steroid that binds very tightly to the AR will stimulate a lot of muscle synthesis and burn a lot of fat. A good example of this is Trenbolone. And since I mentioned Trenbolone, it’s worth further mentioning that MT is basically a 17aa (oral) version of (injectable) Trenbolone. AR binding and AR stimulation is not the only mechanism which stimulates anabolism, however. It’s important to note that dbol has a very low AR binding ability and A50 has an AR binding ability that is too low to even measure! Both are very potent oral steroids, though. So while it’s important, AR binding/stimulation is not the end all and be all of anabolism.

    Usage
    Methyltrienolone is, of course, a 19Nor compound (as is Trenbolone). It will effect your sexual drive and performance in a similar way to both Tren and nandrolone, meaning that temporary impotence and/or a lack of libido is highly possible (aka Tren-Dick or Deca Dick) (10). Also, it is a progestin, and still binds almost as well to the progesterone receptor (PgR) (3). As we know, progestins amplify estrogenic effects of aromatizing drugs. Although MT doesn’t aromatize, you will still need to worry about its ability to cause side-effects by amplifying the estrogenic issues caused by the other compounds you may be taking.

    Unwanted Effects
    How toxic is this stuff? Well, it was never commercially marketed for use in humans, and has been relegated to Steroid-Purgatory, to be used only in studies. It can be rated on around the same level as taking high(ish) doses of halotestin or methyltestosterone. It is recommended that people keep doses of this product very low, much lower than recommended doses typical of the other 2 compounds I just mentioned (i.e. 500-750mcgs/day…for not much longer than 3-4 weeks). People who were in the 2mg/day range developed highly elevated liver enzymes and jaundice (yellowing of the eyes and skin). They all recovered, and through trial and error, a 500-750mcg dose was found to be (relatively) safe, and (roughly) as effective as 150-225mgs of Trenbolone Acetate. For women, a possible side effect of MT is virilization (development of male sexual characteristics), which is profound with this stuff (11), so it is entirely off limits for women to use.
    With this stuff, you may want to take milk thistle (320mgs/day), ALA (500mgs per meal) and try some Pygeum Africanum (Permixon, the liposterolic extract of Serenoa). This stuff will protect your prostate: in one study, it inhibited competitively the binding of methyltrienolone to the cytosolic receptor of the rat prostate. You’ll still need to get blood work done, avoid other orals (this includes drinking, or anything else which could tax your liver), and monitor your health closely. This isn’t a drug for novices, clearly, and is probably only useful for pre-contest bodybuilders.





    It seems to be used by alot of powerlifter from different forums that ive searcged through. They take anything between 0.25ml - 1 ml 1 hour pre workout. The gains from using 500mcg pre workout have been compared to using 200mg of Tren Ace per day. So it does sound really special/crazy/dangerous.

    Im planning on using it as an endload to my cycle to help push for new gains towards the end of my cycle when gains usually seem to slow down.
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    Keep an eye on liver related issues. It sounds to be very taxing to the liver. According to the article even more so than halo which is considered one of the most toxic AAS out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiggerStronger View Post
    Keep an eye on liver related issues. It sounds to be very taxing to the liver. According to the article even more so than halo which is considered one of the most toxic AAS out there.
    Remember that the article is referring to the oral form which will obviously be considerably more taxing on the liver than the injectable form. Sadly ive yet to find any articles referring to the injectable form.

    All the same though, i do agree with you that it does seem very toxic but others have used it so thats a good enough reason for me to try it.

    Im not due to start using it till March next year so hopefully in the meantime i can gather more info from forums from people who have used it. Cant help but feel excited about it though lol.
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    lol quite the difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metal85 View Post
    lol quite the difference
    Lol just a bit! As 500mcg has been compared to using 200mg of Ace you could still say its like using 800mg/ml of ace. That still sounds insane lol
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    you can't really say how much the oral version compares to the Im because you don't know it's bioavailability nor do you know it's first pass metabolism. it all seems to be speculation. how old are you?
     

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    how much over 500 do you bench?
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    max is 580 or 585 I think.
     

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    maybe related maybe unrelated. . but i use the Pro hormone Tokyo Tren years ago and it was worse on my libido , nipples, i was lethargic and awful on my kidneys! i pissed blood went to the Dr. for a couple months have to piss in a jug and gettin it checked for passin protein in urine, and blood. my kidneys were functionin at 58 percent when i first went!! oh, yes the strength gains were great LOL but who cares! they were functiong at 89 when i stopped goin i felt better and urine was clear , all goodsence and ive used HEAVY aas cycles since ALOT! So, im sold to the AAS over "legal" SAFE Prohormones ANY day!
     

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    damn Benchin wheres the videos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by benchingover500 View Post
    you can't really say how much the oral version compares to the Im because you don't know it's bioavailability nor do you know it's first pass metabolism. it all seems to be speculation. how old are you?
    Im 23 in 2 months, my reason for posting about the oral version is because thats the only information i can find at the moment regarding the compound. The IM version seems to have very limited information published regarding its use or effects etc.

    This thread was a way of hopefully finding someone with more information.

    There has been a few people on other forums who claim to have used the IM version and all seem to verify its legitamacy in large strength gains and increased aggression.
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    Was there a recepies ever found for this please??
     

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