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Needed Recipe for Masteron Enanthate
Hello fellas,
I found the following percentage for Masteron Propionate:
Masteron (Drostanolone Propionate) 100mg/ml - 10ml
6.95ml Oil
1g Drostanolone Propionate Powder
0.2ml BA (2%)
2ml BB (20%)
but didn't find any Recipe & Percentage for Masteron Enanthate. I was wondering to know:
- 1) Both recipes are the same?
- 2) Both percentages are the same?
any help would be appreciated!Giru Laughed Ass Off
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10-20-2014, 02:46 AM #2
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Looking 4 one 4 ya... Bump 4 ppl who can answer. All I found was Masteron Enanthate holds nicely at 250mg/ml - use the 50/50 GSO/EO.
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10-20-2014, 02:52 AM #3
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250mg/ml - 100ml
25 gram Masteron Ethanate powder (18.75ml)
2ml BA (2%)
10ml BB (10%)
69.25ml Oil
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Good Morning!
So lets start with some education of the compounds so everyone know and make sure I give you an educated reason as to why.
BB and EB-
Both BB and EB are esters which are the condensation product, (meaning you lose a molecule of water when the ester is formed), of an alcohol and an organic acid. So, Ethyl Benzoate is synthesized from Ethyl Alcohol and Benzoic Acid, and Benzyl Benzoate (BB) is made from Benzyl Alcohol and Benzoic Acid.
In My opinion, its not a good idea to try to interchange these 2, since they are pretty different chemically. The BB has 2 aromatic rings and the EB has a short alkyl group and 1 aromatic ring. This means that the BB is going to have better solvating power for nonpolar organic compounds, i.e. steroids. THIS IS For Ethyl Benzoate and Benzyl Benzoate-
EO and BB-
Ethyl Oleate (EO):
A relatively new solvent in the realm of bodybuilding, EO is Oleic Acid with an ethyl Ester. EO is an excellent solvent for lipophilic compounds in injectable preparations. Its oxidative stability helps extend the shelf life of compounds, and its low viscosity provides for easy injections. However, you must know that the acidic solvent can eat through membranes in filters so it is recommended you use a PTFE not PVD. This may be an organic compound but it is very acidic and can eat through filter membranes, and create scar tissue faster than normal at the injection site.
BB- as discussed above but BB will help preserve and thins your solution for preparation for injection, it is not as strong as BA and it much heaver in regards to compound weight.
So now we shed some light these substances, my recommendation would be to mix. I would not straight sub BB for EO. If you cannot get EO and your solution needs a solvent use the BA and BB and if you can or have EO add a percentage. If you want BB and BA then mix accordingly-if you straight use BA and EO this will cause some pain-no doubt.
As for the enthanate ester , YES you can use BB in place of EO, always swirl your solvents and powders until mixed. Don't shake. You can lightly heat the BB since it has a high boiling temp to help saturate and dissolve your powder. (I mean in boiling water and or even run it under hot water until it feel warm)
I hope this helps-now its time for coffeebioengineer thanked for this postbioengineer liked this post
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Honestly, in my opinion I wouldn't use GSO for an enthanate ester. Use the BA and BB and if you want a small percentage of EO but use sesame or cottonseed.
What Mg/ml and volume do you want? ex 200mls at 200/mg/ml..bioengineer thanked for this post
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Its usually a preference by the person making it. I like high mg/ml test E so I use a thicker carrier oil like sesame or cottonseed due to the fact the ester wont be supersaturated in a lighter oil to cause me so much PIP. This happens in most esters that are a high concentration as it irritates the muscle.
I have cut test E in sesame and prop in GSO to a 50/50 and it works great with no PIP.
Honestly with a lighter oil there are some differences-the oil is lighter and will not have the same shelf life. It can also cause more PIP and cannot hold high MG concentrations of a higher molecular weight ester without discomfort or short half life of finished product.
All in all again, its preference, but I don't make Kool-Aid with Milk I use purified water..each their own. :-)
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10-20-2014, 05:21 PM #13
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When and if you do (at your own discretion of course) , make sure you learn about what the powders really are. I will post a thread on feel, solubility, taste, smell etc so most can be educated on what they are actually getting. Don't ask for sources, just follow the board rules and all will be good.
**I post this for educational purposes of course and its use is not controlled by be but will be posted for informational purposes only.**
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I have one that holds at 200. Its a 2% BA and a 20%BB with GSO or with a GSO/EO mix of roughly 20%. How many MLs are you able to make? Everyone always leaves that out. ME is an expensive substance and one of the most commonly substituted, most already have a recipe before they buy it.
So the recipe I have is
2% BA
20% BB
GSO or GSO/EO mix of 20% EO.
This a 200mg/ml recipe and yes it holds, this substance is easy to work with.bioengineer thanked for this postbioengineer liked this post
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Do u think these elements work out to make 50ml @ 200mg/ml based on you information? What do u think about the following recipe as well? Thanks a lot!
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1ml BA
10ml BB
10g Powder
30.5ml GSO
Recipe:
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1. Mix Powder, BA and BB
2. Warm GSO
3. Add GSO to the solution.
4. Put the pan on the stove with one inch water until water starts to boiling and then turn off stove.
5. Put the solution in the pan until it's started to be clear.
6. Give it 15min to be cool.
7. Filtration Process.
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I have made it with 2% BA 18% BB at 100 mg per ml holds just fine, also used GSO.
People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do.bioengineer thanked for this postbioengineer liked this post
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Heres what I would do as for ingredient wise:
50 ML @ 100 mg/ml
10 grams powder
30.65 oil
1ml BA
9ml BB
Follow the same procedure you have above, add the solvent and swirl as you add a little at a time to prevent clumping.
You can filter your oil luke warm, don't just turn the pan off and wait, you will find a luke warm solution is easier to filter and you wont get "Titration" (precipitation) in the vial if you let it cool as the evaporative process of water will mix in the vial. Remember luke warm, not hot, not cold ;-)bioengineer thanked for this postbioengineer liked this post
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