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    hey guys whats up??? i just wanted to know if there was a list somewhere of the right temp setting when doing ur brews.. for each compound... any info on this will do and much appriciated..
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    I'm trying to find the same info. Hopefully someone will chime in!
     

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    PG will know. I think every compound at no higher than 212 for 10 minutes will do. I like everything at about 200 for around 10 minutes
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    Here are some basic melting points.
    testosterone Enanthate
    Melting Point = 32-36C or 90℉

    Testosterone Cypionate
    Melting Point = 98-102C or 212℉

    Testosterone Propionate
    Melting Point = 118-122C or 248℉

    Testosterone Base
    Melting Point = 154-155C or 309℉

    Testosterone Phenylpropionate
    Melting Point = 115-116C or

    Testosterone Isocapronate
    Melting Point = 53-55C

    Testosterone Decanoate
    Melting Point = 47-49C

    Methyl Testosterone
    Melting Point = 162-167C

    Oxandrolone
    Melting Point = 235-238C

    Turinabol
    Melting Point = 225-230C

    Boldenone Undeclynate
    Melting Point = Will melt at room temp.

    Nandrolone Decanoate
    Melting Point = 30-35C

    Nandrolone Phenylpropionate
    Melting Point = 92-96C

    tamoxifen Citrate
    Melting Point = 143-146C

    Clomifene Citrate
    Melting Point = 116.5C

    letrozole
    Melting Point = 184.5C

    tadalafil
    Melting Point = 298-300C

    Oxymetholone
    Melting Point = 177-180C

    Stanozolol
    Melting Point = 228-242C

    trenbolone acetate
    Melting Point = 94-97C
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by viciouscycle View Post
    Here are some basic melting points.
    testosterone Enanthate
    Melting Point = 32-36C or 90℉

    Testosterone Cypionate
    Melting Point = 98-102C or 212℉

    Testosterone Propionate
    Melting Point = 118-122C or 248℉

    Testosterone Base
    Melting Point = 154-155C or 309℉

    Testosterone Phenylpropionate
    Melting Point = 115-116C or

    Testosterone Isocapronate
    Melting Point = 53-55C

    Testosterone Decanoate
    Melting Point = 47-49C

    Methyl Testosterone
    Melting Point = 162-167C

    Oxandrolone
    Melting Point = 235-238C

    Turinabol
    Melting Point = 225-230C

    Boldenone Undeclynate
    Melting Point = Will melt at room temp.

    Nandrolone Decanoate
    Melting Point = 30-35C

    Nandrolone Phenylpropionate
    Melting Point = 92-96C

    tamoxifen Citrate
    Melting Point = 143-146C

    Clomifene Citrate
    Melting Point = 116.5C

    letrozole
    Melting Point = 184.5C

    tadalafil
    Melting Point = 298-300C

    Oxymetholone
    Melting Point = 177-180C

    Stanozolol
    Melting Point = 228-242C

    trenbolone acetate
    Melting Point = 94-97C
    These are basic melting points of the substance. Remember once you melt the chemical structure it depends on what your using it for. EXample water, solid, water, air. they all are the same but cannot be used in the same form for everything.
    I do not melt my powders, I do dissolve them and sometimes supersaturate and heat them. melting points are not always accurate.

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    PG will know. I think every compound at no higher than 212 for 10 minutes will do. I like everything at about 200 for around 10 minutes
    This is a good basis for most basic substances. There are lower melting points for some though so be cautious not to degrade them, tren, TE, EQ, Deca to name a few.
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    good info PG. when making Test E, what's the max temp i should go up to? and for how long? i've done about 200 F for 10 minutes or so, but i may want to lower it now just to be safe
     

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    200F IS A GOOD TEMP BRING UR BREWS TO.. I WOULDNT CHANGE THT.. THTS WHAT I USE FOR ALL MY BREWS BRO.. IT MAKE FILTERING ALOT EASIER AND HEAT BONDS THE MOLECULE TOGETHER MORE PLUS DISSOLVES ANY MICRO CRYSTALS THT MAY HAVING DURING MIXING ... YOUR G2G THERE...
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE 67 View Post
    200F IS A GOOD TEMP BRING UR BREWS TO.. I WOULDNT CHANGE THT.. THTS WHAT I USE FOR ALL MY BREWS BRO.. IT MAKE FILTERING ALOT EASIER AND HEAT BONDS THE MOLECULE TOGETHER MORE PLUS DISSOLVES ANY MICRO CRYSTALS THT MAY HAVING DURING MIXING ... YOUR G2G THERE...
    thanks bro, glad to hear that. PG had me a little worried for a second because I've always done 200 F, even for Test E and Tren E so I was worried I loss some potentcy on them

    And if that makes filtering easier, then I'm all for it lol
     

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    ive never really used the temp guide never had any problems with my brews..like powderguy said i deslove my test ect in the solvents then add to heated oil..the only reason ive ever used the temp guide is to find out which packet ive got and to test it to see if its realy is what it says it is..
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    Tren should be minimum heat. I usually do 180℉ for only 20/30 seconds at a time until it dissolves. Heat will degrade tren rapidly!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by viciouscycle View Post
    Tren should be minimum heat. I usually do 180℉ for only 20/30 seconds at a time until it dissolves. Heat will degrade tren rapidly!!
    i know what you mean, but tbh my Tren has been perfectly fine even when i went up to 200 or so. i think with Tren I'll only go up to 150-160 or so from now on just to be safe
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    ANYTIME BRO.. I DO THIS WITH ALL COMPOUNDS.. I FILTER AT HIGH VOLUMES.. AND IT DROPS LIKE WATER... WITH NO LOSS OF HORMONE.. BUT WHAT COULD LOOSE HORMONE IF UR TEMP ISNT HOT ENOUGH IT WILL CLOG THE MEMBRANES FORM FAST COOLING OF THE BREW AND U COULD LOOSE POTENCY THT WAY AS WELL.. I USE A FULL GLASS FILTRATION SYSTEM... I DONT KNOW ABOUT THE SYRINGE ORDEAL BUT IVE HEARD OF THEM CLOGGING AS WELL BECAUSE OF THE BREW COOLING TO FAST..

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    NOT AT TH TEMP IT WONT... SOME PHARMA LABS GO UP TO 400 F ON COMPOUNDS.. AND TREN IS A VERY STABLE MOLECULE.. NOW TO MUCH HEAT FOR TO LONG WILL AS IF ANYTHING DEGRADE IT..
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE 67 View Post
    ANYTIME BRO.. I DO THIS WITH ALL COMPOUNDS.. I FILTER AT HIGH VOLUMES.. AND IT DROPS LIKE WATER... WITH NO LOSS OF HORMONE.. BUT WHAT COULD LOOSE HORMONE IF UR TEMP ISNT HOT ENOUGH IT WILL CLOG THE MEMBRANES FORM FAST COOLING OF THE BREW AND U COULD LOOSE POTENCY THT WAY AS WELL.. I USE A FULL GLASS FILTRATION SYSTEM... I DONT KNOW ABOUT THE SYRINGE ORDEAL BUT IVE HEARD OF THEM CLOGGING AS WELL BECAUSE OF THE BREW COOLING TO FAST..

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    NOT AT TH TEMP IT WONT... SOME PHARMA LABS GO UP TO 400 F ON COMPOUNDS.. AND TREN IS A VERY STABLE MOLECULE.. NOW TO MUCH HEAT FOR TO LONG WILL AS IF ANYTHING DEGRADE IT..
    400 for Pharma? Whoa. must be a lot of smoke going on lol
     

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    400 is high and that's enough to cook off the BA and degrade the carrier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powderguy View Post
    400 is high and that's enough to cook off the BA and degrade the carrier.
    Definitely never going that high, that sounds like trouble right there lol
     

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    I follow PG's protocol. Never had a problem.
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    i never brew with the temp guide , i brew in a law temp every raw powder and filtered
     

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    I think this question is sort of related... When brewing Tren do you guys pressure cook/bake your vials after filtering for the extra measure of sterility?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Good Shady View Post
    I think this question is sort of related... When brewing Tren do you guys pressure cook/bake your vials after filtering for the extra measure of sterility?
    never have, if your vials are 100% sterile theres no need to bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pristi1340 View Post
    never have, if your vials are 100% sterile theres no need to bro
    Thanks, what I figured. If I wanted to be extra safe, do you think that baking the Tren would damage the hormone? I know I've asked this about Test E before. I've just heard Tren is more delicate. Thanks for the reply.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Good Shady View Post
    Thanks, what I figured. If I wanted to be extra safe, do you think that baking the Tren would damage the hormone? I know I've asked this about Test E before. I've just heard Tren is more delicate. Thanks for the reply.
    no problem bro. nah, i wouldn't bake the Tren. you don't need much heat when making Tren Ace or Tren E. 150F is perfectly fine, but when I've made Tren E i like to go up to 200F because it makes filtering a breeze. some people actually get their brews past 250F but i'm too chicken-shit to go that high lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pristi1340 View Post
    no problem bro. nah, i wouldn't bake the Tren. you don't need much heat when making Tren Ace or Tren E. 150F is perfectly fine, but when I've made Tren E i like to go up to 200F because it makes filtering a breeze. some people actually get their brews past 250F but i'm too chicken-shit to go that high lol
    Lol... I can see your point. I'd hate to destroy/degrade something as beautiful as Trenbolone. It's like gold!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Good Shady View Post
    Lol... I can see your point. I'd hate to destroy/degrade something as beautiful as Trenbolone. It's like gold!
    The Holy Grail. And God's Piss in a vial lol
     

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    Sorry guys to bump this thread but what do you all mean by baking the gear / vials? How do you bake?
    In an oven?
    Also how do you minimize the smell/smoke you get from brewing?
    Can anything be done to stop this?
     

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    Never knew making gear caused smoke bro
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    well maybe smoke was the wrong word to use but you do get alot of fumes from the BA, BB and hormone. How can i limit this so its contained in the room im using to brew.
     

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    The oil will smoke if you get it too hot, but before you can *get* it to that temperature, BA and BB will evaporate off (lower boiling points) and yes, you'll get a nice white cloud of BA/BB vapour - bit stinky too :P If you're going to heat your gear to 200 F, do it *before* you add the BB/BA and add it as it cools...or most can actually evaporate away.
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    I usually suspend my powder into the BA and BB then add the oil which i heat seperately to the mix.

    Would you reccommend I suspend the power into heated oil instead and then add the BA BB later?
    Same thing just ensures the BA and BB doesnt evaporate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assassin View Post
    I usually suspend my powder into the BA and BB then add the oil which i heat seperately to the mix.

    Would you reccommend I suspend the power into heated oil instead and then add the BA BB later?
    Same thing just ensures the BA and BB doesnt evaporate.
    no, your doing it right! Dissolve your powder in the ba and BB, then put in the hot oil after it is already dissolved as best it can,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    no, your doing it right! Dissolve your powder in the ba and BB, then put in the hot oil after it is already dissolved as best it can,
    Doesnt this contradict the teaching of a few on here then. Actually what are temperatures at which BA and BB start to burn of and evaporate?
    The reason i ask this and wanted to switch was becasue achieving a high temp with oil and letting the heat in the oil melt the hormone would be much easier. Plus this will also ensure there is no chemical vapour in the air from the BA and BB reaching high temps.
    What you all think?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    no, your doing it right! Dissolve your powder in the ba and BB, then put in the hot oil after it is already dissolved as best it can,
    what he said^^^^
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    I have a Test E powder. But it didn't melt at room temp( my room temp about 70F). And powder is white and crumbly. It should be sticky and look's like paste at room temp isn't it? So why my test e didn't melt at room temp? Also I have sust powder and it's sticky and looks clear bright yellow.

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    Put it between you fingers.
    It should melt after a few
    what was the smell like. Decca and test E have a distinct smell.
    Mi had someone send me their Raws to brew.
    The test E was complete liquid more like EQ.
    Had the EQ smell and sticky mess that comes with EQ.
    He swears it's testE I can't confirm that it was test
    I don't think it was
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assassin View Post
    I usually suspend my powder into the BA and BB then add the oil which i heat seperately to the mix.

    Would you reccommend I suspend the power into heated oil instead and then add the BA BB later?
    Same thing just ensures the BA and BB doesnt evaporate.
    You can do both. Either way is fine depending on the type of hormone. Some are not bio-absorbable in organic liquid, such as water, oil and PEG. This is why you use the solvent/preservative.

    Deca, EQ and Test E, Tren E are they few that can be dissolved in heated oil, then add the BA. These specific ones do not need BB depending on your carrier oil
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor9 View Post
    The oil will smoke if you get it too hot, but before you can *get* it to that temperature, BA and BB will evaporate off (lower boiling points) and yes, you'll get a nice white cloud of BA/BB vapour - bit stinky too :P If you're going to heat your gear to 200 F, do it *before* you add the BB/BA and add it as it cools...or most can actually evaporate away.

    I concur with Doctor on this. You want to heat it to dissolve the hormone into the carrier and solvent. if you see white smoke plumes, get rid of it and start over.
     

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