Not one to make threads but need some opinions???

Userat204

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Ok so I'm not big on posting threads. I've been brewing for at least 12 years but probably more like 15 and I'm not bragging or thinking I am any better than anyone because believe me I've fucked up everything you can lol.

So I have a buddy who wants injectable DHEA, why, because if you read up on this it is substantially better and orally it most often will just convert to estrogen or more likely estrone. As sub q, you will get much more beneficial and if you add pregnenolone which these things are depleted or really your body stops producing them in long cyckes and most likely why you start to feel burnt out or tired. Google thev term "PREGNEOLONE STEAL" there is some very good information that any gear user should know.

But we know most orals are destroyed by the liver which is why they are made with coatings to have them make it to the intestines for absorbtion. Right now I'm just working on the Dhea for a friend but if I'm making it I'm going to use it as well. I know DHEA is water soluble so I'm wondering if it sounds right to simply add the dhea to bacteriosstatic water at 100mg/ml and first shake it to see if it dissolves. If so then ill filter and call it good. But if it doesn't I'm not certain I should heat it or if I should then treat it like a suspension and go that route.

I've searched the we. And I'm not really coming up with anything and its probably because it sounds like a cc waste of time lol. But honestly it's thev best method. I could easily do transdermal butbtge guy specifically wants injectable . If anyone has any input or has attempted this your input would greatly be appreciated. I'm going to hit the booksv and see what I can comev up with but if you look up the bioavailability of DHEA in Oral form it sucks and I'm not trying to add estro or estrone. I also want to do thisv with pregnenolone for mid cycle or even throughout. But also with gkuathoine when running orals but honestly NAC is incredible fkrbtge live and I have many blood test to prove it. I taje 600mg twice a day all year regardless. Turmeric is another staple and if I really want to go hard with orals I will use UDCA.

But I think these are some things That are overlooked. We know the liver can regenerate but not when it getsvintona certain state. The kidneys on the other hand can't and they take a beating with many orals. COQ10 has actually been shown to get people in renal failure off dialysis which is pretty incredible. Just make sure you aren't wastijhnykur money and use the right kind. Turmeric helps with everything. Ginger is good for the kidneys as well. there are other supplements that actually help herr also and you younger guys may not think about these things burn you should.

I know this is a thread asking for hel. Or a know recipe for water based dhea but I just want to mention two other supplements. If you want to avoid a blood clot which is very serious and very likely in the bb works then you should look into two cheap yet verybeffectice supplements proven to destroy blood clots as well as remove plaque in thev arteries due to itsveffedt on a specific protein. The two are SERREPEPTASE AND NATTOKINESIS. I am borderline with hemochromatosis so I stat away from drol and eq but still have to regularly donate blood and have a friend who is a nurse take some out in between. But these two supplements help me since I'm at a greater risk for blood clots. But also you don't realize how fastvplaque will build in arteries. I was on trt with addojgban oral here and there and occassionaply a small dose of another oil and my lipids were shot. I mean the doc said they were the worst she had seen granted my diet wasn't great either but I am blessed/cursed by being able to eat large amounts of mostvanytjing without gaining fat. Seems nice but it just fools you and you think you are healthy. LoL.

So I appologize for adding all the things that have nothing to do with this thread. Honestly I just feel I should shatebajy info I can that may help someone else. We have come to a time where gear is so readily available that most local guysbi know never come off gear or never post cycle and simply rely on gear. I'm not complaining do as you do but don't just research gear and how to get big and ripped. If you can't do that with your health then what good is it? And I shouldn't say the young guys because many of us are guilty of it. I'm guilty of eating way to many bad fats and cheese cake.



So again thanks for your time and I'm sure this doesn't really intrest many but if you have any input on water based dhea recipe ibwould greatly appreciate it. Thanks fellas. Sorry to go so far off topic.
 
Ok so I'm not big on posting threads. I've been brewing for at least 12 years but probably more like 15 and I'm not bragging or thinking I am any better than anyone because believe me I've fucked up everything you can lol.

So I have a buddy who wants injectable DHEA, why, because if you read up on this it is substantially better and orally it most often will just convert to estrogen or more likely estrone. As sub q, you will get much more beneficial and if you add pregnenolone which these things are depleted or really your body stops producing them in long cyckes and most likely why you start to feel burnt out or tired. Google thev term "PREGNEOLONE STEAL" there is some very good information that any gear user should know.

But we know most orals are destroyed by the liver which is why they are made with coatings to have them make it to the intestines for absorbtion. Right now I'm just working on the Dhea for a friend but if I'm making it I'm going to use it as well. I know DHEA is water soluble so I'm wondering if it sounds right to simply add the dhea to bacteriosstatic water at 100mg/ml and first shake it to see if it dissolves. If so then ill filter and call it good. But if it doesn't I'm not certain I should heat it or if I should then treat it like a suspension and go that route.

I've searched the we. And I'm not really coming up with anything and its probably because it sounds like a cc waste of time lol. But honestly it's thev best method. I could easily do transdermal butbtge guy specifically wants injectable . If anyone has any input or has attempted this your input would greatly be appreciated. I'm going to hit the booksv and see what I can comev up with but if you look up the bioavailability of DHEA in Oral form it sucks and I'm not trying to add estro or estrone. I also want to do thisv with pregnenolone for mid cycle or even throughout. But also with gkuathoine when running orals but honestly NAC is incredible fkrbtge live and I have many blood test to prove it. I taje 600mg twice a day all year regardless. Turmeric is another staple and if I really want to go hard with orals I will use UDCA.

But I think these are some things That are overlooked. We know the liver can regenerate but not when it getsvintona certain state. The kidneys on the other hand can't and they take a beating with many orals. COQ10 has actually been shown to get people in renal failure off dialysis which is pretty incredible. Just make sure you aren't wastijhnykur money and use the right kind. Turmeric helps with everything. Ginger is good for the kidneys as well. there are other supplements that actually help herr also and you younger guys may not think about these things burn you should.

I know this is a thread asking for hel. Or a know recipe for water based dhea but I just want to mention two other supplements. If you want to avoid a blood clot which is very serious and very likely in the bb works then you should look into two cheap yet verybeffectice supplements proven to destroy blood clots as well as remove plaque in thev arteries due to itsveffedt on a specific protein. The two are SERREPEPTASE AND NATTOKINESIS. I am borderline with hemochromatosis so I stat away from drol and eq but still have to regularly donate blood and have a friend who is a nurse take some out in between. But these two supplements help me since I'm at a greater risk for blood clots. But also you don't realize how fastvplaque will build in arteries. I was on trt with addojgban oral here and there and occassionaply a small dose of another oil and my lipids were shot. I mean the doc said they were the worst she had seen granted my diet wasn't great either but I am blessed/cursed by being able to eat large amounts of mostvanytjing without gaining fat. Seems nice but it just fools you and you think you are healthy. LoL.

So I appologize for adding all the things that have nothing to do with this thread. Honestly I just feel I should shatebajy info I can that may help someone else. We have come to a time where gear is so readily available that most local guysbi know never come off gear or never post cycle and simply rely on gear. I'm not complaining do as you do but don't just research gear and how to get big and ripped. If you can't do that with your health then what good is it? And I shouldn't say the young guys because many of us are guilty of it. I'm guilty of eating way to many bad fats and cheese cake.



So again thanks for your time and I'm sure this doesn't really intrest many but if you have any input on water based dhea recipe ibwould greatly appreciate it. Thanks fellas. Sorry to go so far off topic.

well I'm glad you posted this as i was looking into the COQ10 before and this just reminded me about it, as for the DHEA yes I've read about it being better used as an injectable, we have some good articles on that actually someplace.

In anycase, I'm sure one of our gurus here can help with the DHEA conversion to injectable for ya.
 
Lol thanks any way presser. Maybe just need a little more time. I know I have a hard time gmgetting spare time. I'm thinking it's water soluble so I should be ok on bac watr. I'll just try a little and see. I guess it's time to expiriment . Thanks for bumping.
 
Hey userat204, how much coq10 should you run for kidneys when doing an oral cycle? And what kind ubiquinol or just regular coq10?
 
Hey userat204, how much coq10 should you run for kidneys when doing an oral cycle? And what kind ubiquinol or just regular coq10?

Hey Yelis. I am originally from Omaha.

Even when not taking orals I take 400 mg/day of CO-Q10 and 200 mg/day of ubiquinol. That is more for the cardiovascular system than the kidneys. Drink 2 gallons of water a day if you are going to do heavy orals. Keep an eye on your BP as well.
 
Hey Yelis. I am originally from Omaha.

Even when not taking orals I take 400 mg/day of CO-Q10 and 200 mg/day of ubiquinol. That is more for the cardiovascular system than the kidneys. Drink 2 gallons of water a day if you are going to do heavy orals. Keep an eye on your BP as well.

Haha, nice to see somebody who knows Omaha exists lol. What do you recommend for BP? I just started m1t and I forgot how fukin strong this is. Its making my BP skyrocket right now and I'm only 3 days in. I need to get this under control quick.
 
Hey bro as for your post, I am researching it. I know that some company tried to make it an injectable but cost was to high vs benefit and market value. I mean who wants to pay 100 for a 10ml vial of DHEA when 100 50mg tabs are 7$. You can buy DHEA powder and when taken with an estrogen blocker it can be beneficial. As for an injectable the problem is that it would most likely have to be made into a suspension and that's not viable for a completely sterile solution of such a weak substance..however im up for the challenge and I will see what I can do..i have time
 
I will try to find the article I n had on CoQ10 and other supps that will help kidney fiction but as stated it is for cardiovascular health as well. But I know a guy who's wife was going thru dyialisis and was able to stop due to all the supps he researched abd she was taking.

I agree that if it's not inexpensive and easily made then ill just scrap it. The raw dhea was cheap and it's for a friend really but I do want to use it with pregnenolone. Ginger also is good for kidneys. I know a lot of guys look at urine color but according to docs if your piss is foamy like all the time then you are having some kidney issues . I will say I've ran dbol for over 10 weeks at a time and after had a fairly large blood panel done and my liver and kidney values and function were excellent not so much on the lipids though. But I take a few supplements regularlly and my woman is stuck on making tea especially ginger tea which include dandilion , licorice root,black peppper so it's good for kidneys and liver abd just general digestion but she makes a fwe others . I'm not real big on them but it's a good way to get som. Of those supplements.


For powder guy : I've read a few post from guys who added dhea and pregnenolone straight to a TE mix. They seem to think it worked great but no difinitive results as they had no blood work to prove it did anything. But with it being water soluble do you think it could be as simple as adding it to bac water and filtering? I guess its going to depend on how readily it takes in the water. I really don't want a suspension and he doesn't want it in oil for some reason. So I guess I'm going to try thev powder in bac water as of now and see what happens. I'll let u guyys know shortly if it maintains its powder form in the water. It just seems that it would be to simple that way and more would do so if it were that easy but that's going to be my first step. I'll try it now
 
Haha, nice to see somebody who knows Omaha exists lol. What do you recommend for BP? I just started m1t and I forgot how fukin strong this is. Its making my BP skyrocket right now and I'm only 3 days in. I need to get this under control quick.

Best OTC for bp is Carditone. Also good is celery seed and hawthorne berrry. Its a natural Ace Inhibitor. You can get it on Amazon. M1t is some strong shit.
 
and celery creed are booth good add in black pepper. I would honestly find a good cardiac blend premade. I honestly just use lisinoprip or micrchlorothazide(HCTZ) or a lisinopril/HCTZ blend. I never thought I would be one to use bp meds or even except their use but the reality that prolonged high bp is nothing to play with made me just go to my doc and get a script. It's easy they can't wait to hand that stuff out. it also helps I have a buddy who is a doc and sent me 1000 x 40 mg lisinopril tabs. I use an automatic wrist bp machine that's was relatively inexpensive and works well. I randomly check they the day. It only takes 30 seconds or less and for me at least it's comforting to know my bp is knormal while I'm cycling.

But to clear things up when I say cycling I mean possibly bumping my trt dose to 400 or 500 with the same of deca and an oral. I may just add an oral to trt or add mast to any of those. I use to run a gram of test year round and like 600 to 800 deca w/o h mast and an oral. I love var, tbol, dbol, sdrol.

These days I just don't feel the need. I haven't used tren in a few years but I do use npp and prop as well I guess I'm just to the point of I know I'm not trying to be a pro and hole I like to be as big and cut as possible life is to busy for me so 225 to 235 with abd is good enough for me but I'm 6' close to 6'1. I use to be huge into peptides,not as much gh, which now looks better every day. Along with peptides. I am a fan of ostsrine. But I'm also a fan of health sorta. I will admit if I cleaned up my diet I may not need a bp med. that's just a safe guard to me and props to the guys who do it naturally. Fish oil in lemon flsvotedv liquid is great for triglycerides. Try some hemp oil as well. Honestly both taste much better than you would think. But even with the supplemts I use my lipids sucked so I did use lipid meds for a couple months to get me back on track. Good bp doesn't mean your not messing up the good old cardiovascular system. I was a bit suprised my hdl tanked and ldl was high so I got that right and got back on the nattokinesis abd serrapeptase. These not only prevent blood clots but help calcium build up in the ateroes abd help prevent gardening of the arteries abd are relatively inexpensive as well.


Ok to the original post. Sorry I haven't posted on this in a week or so. I have taken a break from it to do some research in medical journals and compounding literature. I want to make sure A.it's not harmful and B. I want to find out how exactly I should go about this. I do have family to consult on this which I have a little but if it comes down to it 'll simply see if he can figure this out for me if even possible as a water base but yea the company on pro M that sells inject gluathoine etc has some good products and I thought they carried this but I'm going to ask them as well. I agree on not wanting to buy 1l bottles of it but if it can be made easy enough in bulk I'm up for it .

So I'm not trying to kerb the thread die I just need to become more knowledgeable first. I was hoping someone here had tried it already and yes that's lazy of me but honestly this board has one of the best chemical conversion forums I have come across. The rest just stick to the basics.

Anyone consider a thread of solvents that can be used in place of BA and BB? I know there are specific brands that don't use either.
 
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