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Steroid conversions
Several years ago, I learned how to convert pellets into injectible tren because my boyfriend (bless him) was useless with this kind of thing. I'd much rather he (and all of you) get the proper knowledge and a safe product than to buy from a UG that is probably converting in the bathroom sink. Once I found out how to get my hands on powders, I realized how easy and cost effective it is to convert them.*
All the items needed to convert powders to injectable are easily procured online. Remember that you don't have to buy your supplies from a company that caters to bodybuilders. (these companies are usually more expensive because they know what you're using their stuff for.)*
They have have bulk and retail pricing and are reliable. Remember that you can also buy from chemical supply houses, medical, and science supply online. Do a Google search for "science supplies" and you'll be surprised at what you can find for a very reasonable price.
Chemicals you'll need for almost every conversion:
BB: Benzyl benzoate
BA: Benzyl alcohol (make sure that you do not exceed 5% BA for any of the conversions)
For Liquid Orals:
PEG 300: Polyethylene Glycol
Oils:
Sesame oil is good, and so is grape see oil. Stay away from the thicker oils, and make sure you don't have an alergy to the oil you're using (walnut, for example).
Supplies:
Some companies sell sterile vials with the stopper and crimper already on them. This is good if you have only a small amount to make or only convert every once in a while. Remember to use a venting needle with these when adding your final conversion to them. (transfer air out while putting the product in.)
Syringes 3cc & 5/10cc or bigger
18 or 20 gauge needles to vent and to transfer
Vials/beakers/glass measuring cups for mixing - heat proof
Sterile Vials or vials/stoppers/crimper for your product
sterile filters - whatman or equivelent
plastic or glass mixing spoons/swizzles. No metal
shallow pan to sterilize vials and to heat up mixtures
Test Enanthate
Powder: 5 grams
Produces: 20 ml @ 250 mg/ml
Requirements:*
5 grams testosterone enanthate15.25 ml sesame oilBenzyl Alcohol 1ml 5% BASyringes 3cc & 5/10cc18 or 20 gauge needlesVialSterile VialWhatman sterile filterProcedure:*
measure 5 grams of powderplace the powder in the vialadd BA to the vialheat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for latergently shake the vial.reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stoveplace an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filterplace another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressuredraw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filtertake the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.Test Enanthate
Powder: 10 grams
Produces: 40 ml @ 250 mg/ml
Requirements:*
10 grams testosterone enanthateBenzyl Alcohol 2ml 5% BA30.5 ml sesame oilSyringes 3cc & 5/10cc18 or 20 gauge needlesVialSterile VialWhatman sterile filterProcedure:*
measure 10 grams of powderplace the powder in the vialadd BA to the vialheat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for latergently shake the vial.reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stoveplace an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filterplace another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressuredraw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filtertake the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.Test Cypionate
Powder: 5 grams
Produces: 20 ml @ 250 mg/ml
Requirements:*
5 grams testosterone cypionate15.25 ml sesame oilBenzyl Alcohol 1 ml 5% BASyringes 3cc & 5/10cc18 or 20 gauge needlesVialSterile VialWhatman sterile filterProcedure:*
measure 5 grams of powderplace the powder in the vialadd BA to the vialheat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for latergently shake the vial.reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stoveplace an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filterplace another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressuredraw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filtertake the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.Test Cypionate
Powder: 10 grams
Produces: 40 ml @ 250 mg/ml
Requirements:*
10 grams testosterone cypionate30.5 ml sesame oilBenzyl Alcohol 2 ml 5% BASyringes 3cc & 5/10cc18 or 20 gauge needlesVialSterile VialWhatman sterile filterProcedure:*
measure 10 grams of powderplace the powder in the vialadd BA to the vialheat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for latergently shake the vial.reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stoveplace an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filterplace another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressuredraw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filtertake the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -*
Note: Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - is liquid at room temperature so use the following conversion: 1 ml of EQ = 1.18 grams
Powder: 5 grams
Produces: 25 ml @ 200 mg/ml
Requirements:*
5 grams Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -20.50 ml sesame oilBenzyl Alcohol 0.75 ml 3% BASyringes 3cc & 5/10cc18 or 20 gauge needlesVialSterile VialWhatman sterile filterProcedure:*
measure 5 grams of powderplace the powder in the vialadd BA to the vialheat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for latergently shake the vial.reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stoveplace an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filterplace another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressuredraw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filtertake the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -*
Note: Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - is liquid at room temperature so use the following conversion: 1 ml of EQ = 1.18 grams
Powder: 10 grams
Produces: 50 ml @ 200 mg/ml
Requirements:*
10 grams Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate -41 ml sesame oilBenzyl Alcohol 1.5 ml 3% BASyringes 3cc & 5/10cc18 or 20 gauge needlesVialSterile VialWhatman sterile filterProcedure:*
measure 10 grams of powderplace the powder in the vialadd BA to the vialheat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for latergently shake the vial.reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stoveplace an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filterplace another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressuredraw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filtertake the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.Note:*If you have more than the equivalent of 10 grams of Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , it is recommended that you do the conversion all at the same time to avoid having to measure and calculate 5 or 10 gram equivalents each time.
Test testosterone propionate
Powder: 5 grams
Produces: 50 ml @ 100 mg/ml
Requirements:*
5 grams test testosterone propionate36.25 ml sesame oilBenzyl Alcohol 2.5 ml 5% BABenzyl Benzoate 7.5 ml 15% BBSyringes 3cc & 5/10cc18 or 20 gauge needlesVialSterile VialWhatman sterile filterProcedure:*
measure 5 grams of powderplace the powder in the vialadd BA to the vialadd BB to the vialheat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for latergently shake the vial.reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stoveplace an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filterplace another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressuredraw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filtertake the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.Test testosterone propionate
Powder: 10 grams
Produces: 100 ml @ 100 mg/ml
Requirements:*
10 grams test testosterone propionate72.5 ml sesame oilBenzyl Alcohol 5 ml 5% BABenzyl Benzoate 15 ml 15% BBSyringes 3cc & 5/10cc18 or 20 gauge needlesVialSterile VialWhatman sterile filterProcedure:*
measure 10 grams of powderplace the powder in the vialadd BA to the vialadd BB to the vialheat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for latergently shake the vial.reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stoveplace an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filterplace another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressuredraw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filtertake the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate -*
Powder: 5 grams
Produces: 25 ml @ 200 mg/ml
Requirements:*
5 grams Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - - powder18.75 ml sesame oilBenzyl Alcohol 1.25 ml 5% BABenzyl Benzoate 1.25 ml 5% BBSyringes 3cc & 5/10cc18 or 20 gauge needlesVialSterile VialWhatman sterile filterProcedure:*
measure 5 grams of powderplace the powder in the vialadd BA to the vialadd BB to the vialheat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for latergently shake the vial.reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stoveplace an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filterplace another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressuredraw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filtertake the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate -*
Powder: 10 grams
Produces: 50 ml @ 200 mg/ml
Requirements:*
10 grams Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - - powder37.5 ml sesame oilBenzyl Alcohol 2.5 ml 5% BABenzyl Benzoate 2.5 ml 5% BBSyringes 3cc & 5/10cc18 or 20 gauge needlesVialSterile VialWhatman sterile filterProcedure:*
measure 10 grams of powderplace the powder in the vialadd BA to the vialadd BB to the vialheat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for latergently shake the vial.reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stoveplace an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filterplace another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressuredraw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filtertake the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.trenbolone
Note: this conversion is not for the pellet form
Powder: 5 grams
Produces: 50 ml @ 100 mg/ml
Requirements:*
5 grams trenbolone43.75 ml sesame oilBenzyl Alcohol 2.5 ml 5% BASyringes 3cc & 5/10cc18 or 20 gauge needlesVialSterile VialWhatman sterile filterProcedure:*
measure 5 grams of powderplace the powder in the vialadd BA to the vialheat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for latergently shake the vial.reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stoveplace an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filterplace another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressuredraw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filtertake the other syringe with 2 ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.trenbolone
Note: this conversion is not for the pellet form
Powder: 10 grams
Produces: 100 ml @ 100 mg/ml
Requirements:*
10 grams trenbolone87.5 ml sesame oilBenzyl Alcohol 5 ml 5% BASyringes 3cc & 5/10cc18 or 20 gauge needlesVialSterile VialWhatman sterile filterProcedure:*
measure 10 grams of powderplace the powder in the vialadd BA to the vialheat the oil in a suitable container in the oven to a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will likely be necessary to use slightly more oil than listed as you will not be able to utilise all of it)add the oil to the vial but save 2 ml of oil in the syringe for latergently shake the vial.reheat the mixture if necessary by placing the vial in a frying pan and place it on the eye of the stoveplace an 18 or 20 gauge needle in the sterile vial and attach the Whatman sterile filterplace another needle in the sterile vial to relieve the pressuredraw out the solution with a syringe and run it though the Whatman filtertake the other syringe with 2ml of oil (saved previously) and run it through the Whatman filter into the solution.Winstrol
Note: there is a tendency to ruin the product during conversion so only use one gram at a time
Powder: 1 gram
Produces: 20 ml at 50 mg/ml
Requirements:*
1 gram of winstrolone 20 ml glass vial or largerone 20 ml sterile glass vial or largerone 0.45 Whatman sterile syringe filtertwo 5 or 10 ml syringestwo 3 ml syringesthree 18 or 20 gauge pinstwo 22 gauge pins17 ml of sesame seed oil0.2 ml of benzyl alcohol2 ml of Mr.T super solventProcedure:*
measure one gram of powderdraw out 2 ml of the Mr. T super solvent using one of the 3 ml syringesplace the measured powder in the open vial and add the solventplace the rubber stopper back on the vial and put one of the 20 gauge pins in the stopperplace the vial in a small pan and place the pan on the eye of the stoveheat until the powder dissolves into a liquid (usually around 239.8-242 degrees F)turn off the heat and let it cool down in the pan to room temperature (approx. 15 minutes)heat the oil in a suitable container in the oven until it reaches a minimum of 212 degrees F to sterilise it (it will be necessary to use slightly more oil than is required as all of it will not be able to be utilised)draw out 0.2 ml of benzyl alcohol (this will account for 1% of the solution so make sure the measurement is correct)add the benzyl alcohol to the solution in the vial and shake very gentlydraw out the oil with the 10 ml syringe (make sure the oil has cooled down somewhat before doing this)add 15 ml of the oil (saving 2 ml for later) to the solution in the vial and shake very gently Note: If the winstrol begins to clump back up, reheat the solution (place in a pan, put the pan on the eye of the stove and heat until it liquefies again) and allow it to cool down slowlyplace one of the 18 gauge pins in the sterile, unopened vial and attach the Whatman sterile filterdraw out the solution using the other 10 ml syringe, attach to the filter, and slowly press the solution out into the sterile vialuse the previously saved 2 ml of oil in the other syringe and run it through the filter to ensure that all the Winstrol passes throughafter the filtering process, leave the pin in the sterile vial and remove the filterplace the vial in a pan and place the pan on the eye of the stoveheat for 15-20 minutes, remove from heat, and let it cool down to room temperature (approx. 15 minutes)The finished solution will be light-gold in colour.
Ensure that you follow the guidelines carefully for this conversion.
For conversions larger than one gram, refer to the powder conversion calculator at the top of this page.
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POWDER TO LIQUID ORAL CONVERSIONS:
Anadrol
Powder: per 1 gram of Oxymetholone*
Produces: Highest concentration made - 50 mg/ml
Requirements:*
1 gram of Oxymetholone powder1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids8.4 ml of PEG 30010.5 ml 190 Proof Grain AlcoholAnavar
Powder: per 1 gram of Oxandrolone
Produces: Highest concentration made - 20 mg/ml
Requirements:*
1 gram of Oxandrolone powder1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids9.8 ml of PEG 30039.2 ml of 190 Proof Grain AlcoholArmidex
Powder: per 1 gram of Anastrozole
Produces: Highest concentration made - 5 mg/ml
Requirements:*
1 gram of Anastrozole powder1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids19.9 ml of PEG 300179.1 ml of 190 Proof Grain AlcoholClomid
Powder: per 1 gram of Clomiphene Citrate
Produces: Highest concentration made - 50 mg/ml
Requirements:*
1 gram of Clomiphene Citrate1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids7.6 ml of Glycerol11.3 ml of 190 Proof Grain AlcoholClomid
Powder: per 1 gram of Clomiphene Citrate
Produces: Highest concentration made - 50 mg/ml
Requirements:*
1 gram of Clomiphene Citrate1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids8.4 ml of PEG 60010.5 ml of 190 Proof Grain AlcoholDianabol
Powder: per 1 gram of Methandrostenolone
Produces: Highest concentration made - 50 mg/ml
Requirements:*
1 gram of Methandrostenolone powder1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids19 ml of 190 Proof Grain AlcoholFemara
Powder: per 1 gram of Letrozole
Produces: Highest concentration made - 5 mg/ml
Requirements:*
1 gram of Letrozole powder1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids19.9 ml of PEG 300179.1 ml of 190 Proof Grain AlcoholNolvadex
Powder: per 1 gram of Tamoxifen Citrate
Produces: Highest concentration made - 20 mg/ml
Requirements:*
1 gram of Tamoxifen Citrate1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids19.6 ml of Glycerol29.4 ml of 190 Proof Grain AlcoholNolvadex
Powder: per 1 gram of Tamoxifen Citrate
Produces: Highest concentration made - 20 mg/ml
Requirements:*
1 gram of Tamoxifen Citrate1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids9.8 ml of PEG 60039.2 ml of 190 Proof Grain AlcoholProviron
Powder: per 1 gram of Mesterolone*
Produces: Highest concentration made - 50 mg/ml
Requirements:*
1 gram of Mesterolone1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids8.4 ml of PEG 30010.5 ml of 190 Proof Grain AlcoholWinstrol
Powder: per 1 gram of Stanozolol
Produces: Highest concentration made - 25 mg/ml
Requirements:*
1 gram of Stanozolol1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids7.8 ml of PEG 30031.2 ml of 190 Proof Grain AlcoholFor all of the above conversions requiring PEG and 190 Proof Alcohol, use the following procedure:*
place a sufficient amount of water in a pan and place on the stoveremove from heat when the water reaches boiling temperatureplace the powder and the PEG in the beakerimmerse the beaker in the pan of water so that the water is level with the top of the contents of the beakergently swirl or stir the contents of the beaker until the solution is clear (reheat the water if necessary)remove the beaker from the waterallow the PEG to cool downslowly add the 190 Proof Alcohol to the mixturegently stir until fully mixedFor all of the above conversions where PEG is not required, use the following procedure:*
mix powder and 190 Proof Alcohol in the beakergently swirl or stir the contents of the beaker until the solution is clearthe majority of powders which do not require PEG will dissolve readily but for those that are troublesome, refer to the heating procedure as outlined aboveIn the event that 190 Proof Grain Alcohol (EverClear) is unavailable, then substitute Bacardi 151.
Flavoured oils can also be added to mask the taste if that is your preference.
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Always wanted to make my own but was worried more about buying power than made gear.
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[QUOTE=blacktail;812607]Always wanted to make my own but was worried more about buying power than made gear.[/QUOTE
How much is problem or not!!
10-20 grams no problem especially when it's dry milk...
U would be amazed....
AND small amounts or never searched and if opened surely not tested if its not what it says ...
On it..... test that small amount. Lol!! If they open they will see vials or dry milk .....
But imagine a busted leaky .... may be inspected to find ....
They watch weights and frequency of .....
AND xray picks up bottle....
What ever it says it is.... u can say u can't help if u got something labeled as .... but instead its....Last edited by Muscle mechanic; 09-24-2018 at 01:15 AM.
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Brother did you forget to add the BB on the Test C, and Tren @ 100mg each? I didn't read the rest of the recipes just those first two. So I didn't see if the rest of them were correct or not, but Tren A @100mg needs 12%BB, and Test C definitely will not hold @ 250mg without a minimum of 18%BB, and that's using Miglyol840 as a carrier. If using any other carrier will you will need 20% BB and 2% EO. You might be able to get away with 18% BB (but probably not) if you live in a warm climate. The last thing I'm trying to do is Bash your recipes. as you know I respect you and think you're one of the smartest individuals out there when it comes to how to run gear. I just don't want any members trying to make a product that ends up crashing on them. One thing about this hobby or never done learning so if you know something I don't please let me know..
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Those are copy and paste and it was very old.
Not interested in making it myself it was just for info to contribute.
I am pretty sure those are all proven actually positive from years of people concurring.
That post is so old that they methods may have been different but the raws maybe more pure??
But here is copy of test c
It says 1ml ba and 5% bb
It just come out or pasted crappy
5 grams testosterone cypionate15.25 ml sesame oilBenzyl Alcohol 1 ml 5% BASyringes 3cc & 5/10cc18 or 20 gauge needlesVialSterile VialWhatman sterile filterProcedure:*
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I just copied it and pasted.
People from the original poster posted on them.
It's just for info for where laws allow such things....
AND as said it's very old, Mig wasn't used no where then and today lots of people allergic to it...
So besides the check your laws which all adults responsible to do this board reaches places that have different laws than where I live...
Mig and EO can cause allergy to many....
Just wanted to say that and have no interest for making anything. My job is going well I finally will afford to milk bulls or go to anti-aging clinics... lmao!!
"All post for entertainment purposes"
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Those are Kian Phillips recipes!!
I copied and pasted. Couldn't remember name in other quotes had to look back.
I snagged the info to post. Lol!!
I have no recipes. Lol!! Except for food.
Almost lost my family over losing my temper, now I got to show and live that I am sorry. True story!!! Not about to have or do anything illegal!!
I have a legit business licensed and insured registered at my State.
Thankfully a door closed and a window opened to me having balls to go on my own in mechanic industry self employed now.
No chances for me.
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I agree with you on everything you just said. Unfortunately at one time we can all live I guess you could call it right. The past is the past however I did learn some things that others are probably looking to learn.
I've always liked this bored and think Presser is a good guy who has done nothing, but help me out. There for I'm going to get back to the community by saying if anyone has any questions. I'll answer them to the best of my ability. Don't get me wrong I'm no genius, and never claimed to be, but I'll do my best to guide you in the right direction.
I'm glad to hear you're doing good with your own business and wish i you, and everyone else on this fourm nothing but the best. As you already know I look at you as one of the smartest individuals on these fourms. Everybody has their area of expertise, and we'll all here to learn.
As Mechanic just said all posts are for entertainment purposes only or for those living in other parts of the world where laws are different.
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Thank u!!
AND I am here same as u said.
Good legit board and we just have interest and knowledge from learning and past experiences.
Glad your here and freedom of speech on info is what we do in things that interest us!!
Macho we love this sport and all of this in my opinion is sports medicine.
They allow sex changes for crying out loud and it legal!! OMG! Lmao...
I was researching tbol and east German athletes other day. That woman had to have sex change cause she had become a man... really. And alot of them were told they were vitamins..
Any info appreciated brother glad to see your knowledge. If i could I would make gear for myself or try but woman would kill me!!!
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I have used test ace tren ace mast prop all at 100 so 300mg total have 1 left but I need 4. Plus each on own. Lol!! I use at 75-100 of all a day.
But I lower stack mix and add in tren and mast to lower test when sides start..
I also like one i used it's 400 Cutter!!
Test p 100 tren a 100 mast p 100 and primo a 100. This one my favorite need 4 and cut back and get each on own to add in with test lower after 3 vials.
Lol!! Vial last me around 13 days a guess!
I can run 50 of all those with no sides a day..
I get a little aggressive with tren ace 75-100 a day.
Don't ask me how they make...
I can make for myself but only single things. But lady would start too much shit would not be worth it....
So if i find it laying around I keep in a cave I know that stays 70 degrees year round.
AND it's a workout each trip, reason I stay leaner these days with less effort. Lol
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09-26-2018, 07:30 AM #18
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Are you looking to do Mast P @25mg Tren A @75 mg and Test P @75 mg? If so and you're using MCT oil for Mig840 as a carrier
2%BA
20%BB
If you're using safflower cottonseed or any other carrier oil you're probably going to need to drop the BB to 14% add 5% EO.
A a lot of people think there are allergic to EO. In fact I was one of them for 5 years, but most of the time it's because a lot of ugl's add a super solvent such as EO or Guaiacol leave the amount of BB the same. When you add a super solvent obviously over you can lower the amount of BB. 9 times out of 10 the swelling and redness is not from EO it's from having too much solvent in the mix at one time.
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You sure about the ethyl oleate "EO" not being the cause of the pain? i am one of those people who experiences tremendous pain from products that use EO, and i thought we had an article here explaining the EO was the pain issue and that some are actually allergic or rather have very bad reaction to it. Thats not the case?
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Nah brother I'm definitely not saying that some people aren't allergic to it. Just like MCT oil or Mig840 (Aka Mig812 or Mig840) there's definitely some people allergic to both. Like I said I personally thought I was one of those people for well over 5 years until it was brought to my attention that most ugl's or most people either don't know what they're doing or just plain old don't give a F***. Therefore when making a product for instance something basic like Test C 250 you could use 20%BB or you could add 5%EO, and drop your BB down to 15%, but some people don't take into account that when adding another solvent such as EO you don't need such a high content of another solvent like BB. I was telling a guy that has been in the business a long time that I was allergic to EO when he told me this, and he told me to prove his point that I should inject 1/2CC of 100% EO, AND HONESTLY I THOUGHT HE WAS OUT OF HIS MIND.LOL. However considering his background I want a head and took the plunge literally and did the 1/2CC of EO, and believe it or not the next day I was completely fine. Again I'm not saying some people aren't allergic to it, but like in my case this could be the reason that so many people think they are allergic to it.
In no way am I telling anybody else to do this. So please don't anyone try this. What works for me might not work for the next guy like most stuff we deal with. I'm just speaking from personal experience and trying to help out anyone that I can..
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Sorry I just seen this post brother. My answer would be yes of course anything is possible depending on how much and what kind of solvents you wanted to use. However I wouldn't personally suggest this blend only because the carrier oil would have to either be 100% EO or you would need to add some Guaiacol. Another thing is to be completely honest blends never really where my thing, and i would never want to get it give an answer to a question that I honestly don't know the correct answer to.
If you really want to make this blend I have no problem giving you a recipe that would work to the best of my knowledge. Just let me know?
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I agree with you but there's some stuff I just can't bring myself to try. for instance check this out and tell me if you would try it.lol
I call this a domestic dispute waiting to happen.lol
Domestic dispute juice 100mg
25mg Test Base, 25mg Tren Base, 25mg Dbol, 25mg, Adrol
2%BA
50%BB
17%G
25%EO
In 100ml there's literally only 6mL of carrier oil
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Haha just noticed the mistake. Must have been tired when I read all those recipes.
1 gram of Mesterolone1 beaker suitable for holding the volume of liquids8.4 ml of PEG 30010.5 ml of 190 Proof Grain AlcoholWinstrol
should be liquids 8.4 ml of PEG 300 ___ 10.5 ml of 190 Proof Grain
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Oh brother trust me I agree with you on that I wouldn't personally use this myself. This is from back in my hay day you know it's all about supply and demand..lol.
Personally I use something called ignite 100mg it's
75mg Test Base
25mg Adrol..
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I only can handle tren ace.
The tren e has built up and had me take week off work thinking I would blow years ago after no issues years before but wife and kids changed that.
But I haven't tried with low test with tren e like I run ace now.
Dbol bloats me too much at my age!!
Tren base and MTrien I am afraid of...
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I'm with you brother I've tried to run Tren a twice and both times I didn't make it past the week due to bad anxiety. I was actually thinking about giving it another shot maybe this week I feel as though I'm a little opposite now that I've got older I'm a lot more laid back so I'm hoping I can handle it. I usually only run my test at about 4 or 500mg a week. What would you suggest I do with my test dose if I add tren A?
I also wouldn't mind trying some MTR however it's damn near impossible to find.
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Just handle tren ace.
50mg a day to 75mg a day
Test ace or prop at 50mg a day
Mast 100-125mg a day
That is how I use tren ace.
Lower test helps alot..
But 50mg test and tren not a problem either. Everyday works better for me...
Higher test than that issues start.... like having the ugly's from Ex back in day. Grindy feeling but not happy like Ex back in day... just aggrevated at anything real easy...
Lol!.
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Got something for u, can u help??
yohimbine hcl injection / Helios recipes
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11-18-2018, 06:43 PM #36
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Bump for proven recipes....
These are old from a copy and paste but if they worked they work...
The most basic things suit the home brewer who makes own gear for person use...
Why get fancy??
Coming out for a fraction of cost....
I have family nowhere to attempt this, but for who can, have at it
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