How long did it take to feel good after starting TRT.

chihuahua said:
They are way too many factors. 1. Why did you physician start you off on the high end? 2. Are you sure your E2 was checked and NOT our estrogen? What were your baseline numbers? Not just total test, but free? 3. Do you plan on having more kids? If not, drop the HCG. Please post your numbers. Good luck brother
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I went to Entourage Hormones. I don't plan on having kids but isn't it good to keep the boys going even on TRT? Anyway, here are my before lab results then 8 weeks later:

Before:
LH: 3.4
FSH: 3.6
T Total: 243
T Free: 9.4


After 8 weeks:
LH: 0.1
FSH: 0.6
T Total: 920
T Free: 34.7
Hgb: 16.5
Hct: 48.9
ESTRADIOL, SENSITIVE: 10.8
 
chemh0ser said:
I went to Entourage Hormones. I don't plan on having kids but isn't it good to keep the boys going even on TRT? Anyway, here are my before lab results then 8 weeks later:

Before:
LH: 3.4
FSH: 3.6
T Total: 243
T Free: 9.4


After 8 weeks:
LH: 0.1
FSH: 0.6
T Total: 920
T Free: 34.7
Hgb: 16.5
Hct: 48.9
ESTRADIOL, SENSITIVE: 10.8
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How many days out were you when you were tested? Are you pinning once a week or twice a week? Regarding HCG, in my opinion if you don't plan on having kids there is no need for it. I've been on TRT for almost 10 years with no HCG or dex/stane. I'm anal when it comes to bloodwork, so I pretty much know where I'm at. I only pin 50mg every 3.5 days and my levels range between 700-1000. Hang in there buddy. You'll get dialed in soon.
 
chihuahua said:
How many days out were you when you were tested? Are you pinning once a week or twice a week? Regarding HCG, in my opinion if you don't plan on having kids there is no need for it. I've been on TRT for almost 10 years with no HCG or dex/stane. I'm anal when it comes to bloodwork, so I pretty much know where I'm at. I only pin 50mg every 3.5 days and my levels range between 700-1000. Hang in there buddy. You'll get dialed in soon.
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Same here!!!
No hcg don't want it never used!!!
No adex or anything else from Dr for estro.
50mg test 2x wk levels between 700-1000 total!!

I only use ai blasting more!

And I laugh at guys with their verified bloods 2x that prove there estro was high and prolactin invcreased... Gee
That doesn't verify that prolactin can be high with crashed or low estro....

All people say is estro estro estro and estro.... leave ai's alone unless blasting until bloods or ran and hcg spikes estro

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Presser said:
Sounds like you have a serious case of Human nature lol, sorry, not trying to make light of it, just being stupid, cause I use to say that to my wife all the time or use to when she would get anxious before we knew how bad it was, or rather before i knew how bad it was as she always said it was terrifying. My wifes anxiety is like nothing i have ever seen before, nor heard about people being this bad until talking to doctors and therapists etc.. SHE is notorious for making mountains outta mole hills, but she is bipolar and when i tell you its bad, i honestly can not describe it with words. Manic over the dumbest shit, talks a mile a minute like shes all coked up, or she doesnt say shit at all. So i get it and i hope you figure it out, they had my wife on all kinds of shit until they found what works best for her, so hopefully you get it figured out.

I know it can take years to finally diagnose an ongoing issue. Hows your memory? Short term specifically? I ask because thats finally when my wife got serious about doctors. She would ask me to come home early from work, and take her and kids to go out to eat, and i would get home 30 minutes later and she would be in her pajamas and didnt remember asking me to come home and go out and it got to the point where i wouldnt even say shit, i would just act like i just got done work and not bring it up otherwise world war 3. Anyhow, thats why asked about memory. I know "bipolar' sounds bat shit crazy, and it can be, lmao, until your on the right meds. Then its daily life business as usual, with a few manic spots here and there lol.

I do hope you get to the bottom of it brutha man! And Not suggesting your bipolar! Just pointing out my wife shared similar issues and she is in fact bipolar. Thast all
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And shes gone again ! Dam glad you brought this thread back up ! I almost forgot I shared this.

chem glad ur on the upswing
 
chihuahua said:
How many days out were you when you were tested? Are you pinning once a week or twice a week? Regarding HCG, in my opinion if you don't plan on having kids there is no need for it. I've been on TRT for almost 10 years with no HCG or dex/stane. I'm anal when it comes to bloodwork, so I pretty much know where I'm at. I only pin 50mg every 3.5 days and my levels range between 700-1000. Hang in there buddy. You'll get dialed in soon.
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I pin 200mg cyp once a week. I got my bloodwork before I injected so it was a week since my last dose. Maybe I should consider dropping the HCG. My nuts are just so small normally, I don't want them to shrivel up completely, ha ha.
 
chemh0ser said:
I pin 200mg cyp once a week. I got my bloodwork before I injected so it was a week since my last dose. Maybe I should consider dropping the HCG. My nuts are just so small normally, I don't want them to shrivel up completely, ha ha.
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First off, we can only give you our opinions here. With that being said you're at 920 at 7 days out, correct? Is that in range? Answer: yes. Now think about it. Where do you think you are at 2-3 days out? Your peak is going to be out of range. You're shooting for a stable level. This is why MM and myself pin every 3.5 days. If I were you I would just drop everything but the test. Try it for at least 6 weeks and take it from there. Keep us posted.
 
I will try dropping the HCG and see how it feels. If that works out after 6 weeks, then I will consider injecting 2x a week. Do want to make too many changes at once cause I won't know what change is actually working.
 
Dropped the HCG for 3 weeks now. Gyno started subsiding but not all the way gone. Testicular Atrophy was not as bad as I thought it would be, very slight. Muscles seems fuller. I am hoping the fat will start to come off quicker now too.
 
Looks like you're on the right track buddy. Once you get your diet in check the fat will just melt off. Good luck..
 
Update: So I have started getting cystic acne on my face and my hair is falling out at a rapid rate. I contacted my TRT doc and I'm gonna get my bloodwork done to see what is going on. I am continuing to post updates to help those in the future but if you guys don't give a crap I can stop with the updates.
 
Yeah man, were all tuned in! I am curious to know as well. You have more people following this than you might think lol, so of course we give a crap, and a piss too while were at it
 
Ha ha, you guys are the best. I try to talk to my close friends and they could not be less interested. I don't how many other guys experience this while on TRT but I have more acne now at 200mg cyp/week then I ever did when I cycled as a younger guy; and I had used up to 800mg test/week.
 
chemh0ser said:
Ha ha, you guys are the best. I try to talk to my close friends and they could not be less interested. I don't how many other guys experience this while on TRT but I have more acne now at 200mg cyp/week then I ever did when I cycled as a younger guy; and I had used up to 800mg test/week.
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Other hormone changes occur as we age..
Never had acne till I was 38 I guess.
Past few years these same spots keep coming back. Removed a couple that turned into big subacious cysts...
I finally cleared it anti-biotics always worked then it comes back...
I took low dose doxycycline 20mg 2x a day then Dr gave me Clindamyn/Benz gel.
I apply to areas 1-2× a day and it's all gone.
He will give me refill as needed I go every month for reg med... not TRT Dr but my Dr of 20 years. He knows I am on trt... I only see TRT every 6 months since stable...

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chemh0ser said:
Ha ha, you guys are the best. I try to talk to my close friends and they could not be less interested. I don't how many other guys experience this while on TRT but I have more acne now at 200mg cyp/week then I ever did when I cycled as a younger guy; and I had used up to 800mg test/week.
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The only side effect I've gotten is a freaking back sweater.. :evil:
 
Ok guys here is the update with my last round of blood work. I have been feeling pretty good and the acne has subsided. The doctor said everything is looking great but I still feel that Estradiol results are a bit high. I was considering splitting my dose and injecting twice a week but doctor says that I shouldn't change anything. What do you think?

T Total: 845
T Free: 29.5
Hgb: 16.5
Hct: 46.8
ESTRADIOL, SENSITIVE: 43.1

Previous results from July

T Total: 920
T Free: 34.7
Hgb: 16.5
Hct: 48.9
ESTRADIOL, SENSITIVE: 10.8
 
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chemh0ser said:
Ok guys here is the update with my last round of blood work. I have been feeling pretty good and the acne has subsided. The doctor said everything is looking great but I still feel that Estradiol results are a bit high. I was considering splitting my dose and injecting twice a week but doctor says that I shouldn't change anything. What do you think?

T Total: 845
T Free: 29.5
Hgb: 16.5
Hct: 46.8
ESTRADIOL, SENSITIVE: 43.1

Previous results from July

T Total: 920
T Free: 34.7
Hgb: 16.5
Hct: 48.9
ESTRADIOL, SENSITIVE: 10.8
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I go by feel not by numbers!! That estro can be managed in lots of ways but I like mine around 40 with total test at 1000

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