Training for those over 45

drtbear1967

drtbear1967

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Been working out the majority of my adult life, but I really started to see a change in my mid forties. It took me longer to recover and those little twinges that I use to feel in my shoulders have now become full blown, kick you in the teeth, take no prisoners, Pains. I can no longer go heavy, so I just rep as much as possible.

I am on HRT and that has helped a lot, but I have also had to make huge adjustments in my nutrition and what supplements I can and cannot take. Being a type 2 diabetic, I reviewed my bloodwork with my doc and for some reason I have a history of increased potasiuum levels and decreased levels in sodium. She thought that since I drink on water, I am washing out my sodium. I drink one soda daily and have now cut out all of my cramping and my sodium levels are in the normal range. Doc doesn't want me taking any creatine, nothing that will boost my NO, and no electrolytes due to the potasiuum. So I am doing research on Pre Workouts to see which one will be the best for me.

Getting older sucks, but I am going to keep fighting and kicking. If anyone has any ideas as to a good pre workout with no creatine, no NO expanders let me know. Thinking about going back to old school C4.


Tbear
 
DMSO is a God send for us that struggle with ache and pains. I use it daily!!

I think your doc is an idiot, why no creatine and no electrolytes due to postasium..........what????

Best pre workout is good old EC, ( I am sure your doc would not approve) peptopro and highly cyclic branched dextrin ( glycofuse). I take 25g of peptopro and 25g of glycofuse ( HCBD) pre work out and another intra ( during) your workout.
 
yellow snow said:
DMSO is a God send for us that struggle with ache and pains. I use it daily!!

I think your doc is an idiot, why no creatine and no electrolytes due to postasium..........what????

Best pre workout is good old EC, ( I am sure your doc would not approve) peptopro and highly cyclic branched dextrin ( glycofuse). I take 25g of peptopro and 25g of glycofuse ( HCBD) pre work out and another intra ( during) your workout.
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Dmso?

Man im 40 this year and work construction i have new aches and pains every month.im gonna start trt after my next cycle.best of luck OP
 
My potassium has been so high in the past, that I was on the verge of a heart attack. That is why the docs are wanting to keep a close eye on it. I have used DMSO and love it. Just have to be careful as it will burn the skin. I have never heard of peptopro and highly cyclic branched dextrin.
 
I have some DMSO from the 1980's, so its close to 30 yrs old, wonder if it still works?? IIRC it gave one a garlic odor, but have heard amazing things abt it
 
The Survivor said:
I have some DMSO from the 1980's, so its close to 30 yrs old, wonder if it still works?? IIRC it gave one a garlic odor, but have heard amazing things abt it
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I don't think the stuff ever goes old. It does lose potency and will reduce the burning sensation!!
 
There are studies over in Europe where they are using DMSO and Hydrogen Peroxide to cure different types of cancer. Love the stuff!!
 
So last night, I was training with some powerlifters. They had to me change the way that I gripped the bar. Now I have been gripping the bar the same way for the last 20 years due to shoulder issues but what the hell, I will try something new. Got about 6 reps and my shoulder gave out. Now today my right wrist and shoulder have been throbbing all day. Hello Mr Ice, nice to see you again old friend. Guess I will wrap up the wrist and hit back today. Never give up, never surrender!!
 
drtbear1967 said:
Got some KT tape and taped up the shoulder. Doing much better. Getting old sucks!!
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Getting older by the day, so I am right there with you. I have found that my body does not like heavy weights anymore.............word to the young guys out there is go heavy (be smart about it, bad form will catch up with you) as long as you can.
 
you sure got that right, boys. actually it wasn't the getting old part that was the problem for me, it's all the crap that came with it. at 58, i've slowed down considerably and have a myriad list of ailments. degenerative disc, (i figure joints as well) are a major problem as well as other problems. a regular laundry list, lol. i started lifting and working out since i was about 15. didn't get into it a lot til last year of service, then pretty regular. so about 38 years. never did steroids, but now i have low-t and adrenal insufficiency, doc won't put me on trt or adrenal support. i still push myself as well as work around the house. my wife usually has to say something about me pushing myself to hard knowing full well i will pay for it after, sometimes for days on end. i still try to get two full body workouts in a week, though the last couple of weeks, i've been trying more per week, working each muscle group just once a week, which is a real change for me, and at my age i need to really watch it. i eat right most of the time, but of course there are those treats we all give ourselves from time to time.
needless to say the payment for injuries, exposures, and various other elements of discomfort has come due to us in our older years. but, hey we've still got a lot to offer, and hopefully we've become wiser about a lot of things, instead of thinking we know everything like the snot nose kids we used to be, lol.
 
I have been on HRT for several years and if your doc will not prescribe it for you, I would go to another doc. It has been unreal for me. My levels were so low that by 1pm I was done. Couldn't think, no energy just shot. If you can find a doc that lifts and understands what you are actually going through it helps.

I hit the gym about 5 days per week, but only go heavy every once in a while. It just hurts the old joints to much. Big difference in pain and hurting. I will do high reps and lots of sets and get a unreal pump. I am wanting to try the igf- lr3 that is talked about on the forum. Everyone gives it high marks and the healing properties are unreal.

Keep hitting it hard and lifting safe!!
 
it would be nice to go to another doctor, problem is mine is a va doc, and going to one in the world is a bit cost prohibitive for me. as it stands now, i requested to see an endocrinologist too months ago, for which my primary did more test only to show i had even lower t than a month before. my acth was low as well. you'd think that with a test level of 200,the doc would be a little more receptive of giving hrt. instead, he runs a free test, understandably, which is just in the normal range. then two, the levels they consider are subjective from doctor to doctor to some degree, because to this one, he doesn't consider it below normal unless it's less then 300. i think 300 is too low for my age and is more that of someone who is 80. he also associates my symptoms largely with service connected disabilities. thus, i am left to resort to looking into alternatives which are cost effective as well as researched by myself. therefore, here i am. this site has offered more info for me about steroids/testosterone, hrt, pct, ai and various other aspects in my search for answers as to how to go about helping myself than most other sites.
it's obvious most of the medical community is stigmatized by the use of hrt for the
most part. i have had considerable time to evaluate this and have worked in the medical field as well. so i am not just jumping in with both feet without considering what lies below.
 
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I have been using DMSO for years. I go to my local Tractor Supply store and pick it up. If you can get the gel version, I think it is the best. Just use a little as it is strong and can cause you to itch. It will also take out swelling.
 
I'm on my 35th yr of training and gotta say I still love the free weights over just abt any machine, hands down. I do admit that Smith Machine has a place in my routine albeit small part. Being injured over the yrs, have relied on it to go heavy on lifts where normally I wouldnt. Never thought I'd say that...

My local competitor, the YM just got done spending big bucks on LifeFitness Insignia line....sure it looks pretty and makes the user feel good, yada yada......but the results cant even begin to compare w free weights. These new machine that advertises "fun, easy & comfortable" are fucked. Like going to a NFL game and watching touch football, no no no
 
lmao, that's pretty good. I'm a free weighter as well, but then I a work out at home guy, too. I'm sure machines have there place, but due to my peculiar condition I can not go to a gym. that's okay though, I'm pretty self motivated and since I'm older, I really do not need to be trying to hit it as heavy as some of these young guys and gals. liable to go home hurt and not be back for a couple of weeks. lol.
that dmso sounds a like it might be promising, but for now I have lidocaine cream I use for aches. I try to keep it's use limited to when pain is high in a particular place. works great to numb a joint up when pain is excruciating, especially knees and lumbar/sacrum areas. I also use low dose codeine if I know i'm going to be doing something that will create more pain for me later in the day, like working on building a shed or just a long road trip.
 
Let those young bucks throw around that big ass weight, I still have to get up and go to work every morning. I do a little of everything these days regarding machines and free weights. We have hammer strength machines and few other pieces at our gym. If I had known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of this old body. I have been ripped and torn way to many times and then 10 years ago I had to have back surgery. My specialist has told me to work on walking as my back and knees are shot. L4, L6 and S1 are all fused now and I do not bend, and I have almost no cartilage in my knees. So cold weather is a pain. But, I am still in the gym 5 to 6 days a week and give it all I have. Never give up, never surrender!!!
 
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