Smith Machine - Use it!!

drtbear1967

Musclechemistry Board Certified Member
Some guys have an irrational hatred of the Smith machine. But Arnold used it, and Yates, and many more. Even some powerlifters use it for certain accessory lifts. Dave Tate uses a Smith machine, but you're more hardcore than him, right? The arguments against it usually come back to, "It removes the stabilizing muscles.” But what if that's the whole point? What if you need to train around an injury and the Smith machine allows you to get in a position you can't get in with a barbell? With a Smith, you could still train pain-free and stimulate muscle growth. But if your ego is so huge that you can't be seen in a Smith machine, then you're only hurting yourself. And that degree of insecurity is what makes you a little bitch.
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What if you have levers that make certain barbell movements inefficient at building certain musculature, and the Smith enables you to hypertrophy that area? Dorian Yates found that Smith machine squats were superior than barbell squats for his body type. He did okay as a bodybuilder. Zydrunas Savickas has done well as a strongman competitor and routinely uses the Smith to build his overhead press. Labeling the Smith machine "worthless" is like labeling all of Canada worthless because they gave us Nickelback and Justin Bieber. Ok, those are pretty good reasons, but you get the idea.
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Now, if you're ONLY using the Smith, then yes, your stabilizers won't get the same degree of work that they'd get with a bar. But most people don't just do Smith machine work, either. Most people who approach training with even an ounce of intelligence use a variety of movements – with and without machines. The Smith machine is neither good nor bad. It's how you apply it for your goals that ultimately makes it a good or bad choice in your training.
 
too bad i can't go to the gym, because i'd surely use it as well as the leg press. i'm sure it'd help with my old messed up body.
 
For bench the Smith hurts my shoulder. But normal bench doesn't.

I prefer to use this for squats.

I can say, despite the pain foe bench it does give me a nice pump. Just hard to train thru ��
 
I have not done a straight bar for bench in years. Hurts my shoulders way to much. Stick with DB and machines. Not looking to impress anyone just keep the machine moving as best I can.
 
I have not done a straight bar for bench in years. Hurts my shoulders way to much. Stick with DB and machines. Not looking to impress anyone just keep the machine moving as best I can.

i know what you mean, my right shoulder especially. i use db to help keep them from hurting too much, but then i stupidly decide to give the bar a try now and then with very painful results. lol. overhead press gets my shoulders, too. i do a little better with a wide reverse grip on them.
 
I've never been a fan of the smith machine, but I am going to start using it. Just had my shoulder repaired, so I think it will help me get back in the swing of things. I do have to admit, that 90% of the smith machines I've seen, there is to much assistance to them & it just doesn't seem to feel right. Than again, maybe I never did it long enough to get used to it & maybe so much typical barbell bench is what
Injured my shoulder in the first place. Oh well... live & learn
 
i like the smith macheen for behind the back shrugs, i've used it for benching too after a wrist surgery, it's definitely useful
 
The Smith is great. I don’t use it all the time but since I lift alone I hit all my max lifts on it. It’s also great when dealing with injuries (like stated above) I have a tire bicep tendon and I was able to do lots of lifts with effecting my arm due the versatility of it.


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i like the smith macheen for behind the back shrugs, i've used it for benching too after a wrist surgery, it's definitely useful

Not to change the subject too much, but have you guys every tried BFR ( blood flow restricted) training when dealing with an injury?
 
Not to change the subject too much, but have you guys every tried BFR ( blood flow restricted) training when dealing with an injury?

Are you referring to restriction of blood flow to keep inflammation from occurring? I’ve used it for tendons but that was opposite. I’d like to know more about this. Kinda like compression sleeves?


Grip it and lift it
 
Saw this somewhere (I think 60 minutes sports) but it's supposed to be pretty damn effective. However, you have to get the pressure just right and based on what I saw on the program, you needed to be connected to a machine that monitors a number of different things (some related to pressure). But I know very little about it.
 
Saw this somewhere (I think 60 minutes sports) but it's supposed to be pretty damn effective. However, you have to get the pressure just right and based on what I saw on the program, you needed to be connected to a machine that monitors a number of different things (some related to pressure). But I know very little about it.

Hmmm. I’ll have to do some google searches then


Grip it and lift it
 
Are you referring to restriction of blood flow to keep inflammation from occurring? I’ve used it for tendons but that was opposite. I’d like to know more about this. Kinda like compression sleeves?


Grip it and lift it
No, the theory is to use a tourniquet of some sort and life super light weights. The blood gets into an area but can't get out for a short period of time. Pumps are insane while lifting light. Hence the reason some use if when dealing with injuries that aren't muscle related( tendons, etc...)

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https://www.strengthandconditioningresearch.com/blood-flow-restriction-training-bfr/
 
I have not done a straight bar for bench in years. Hurts my shoulders way to much. Stick with DB and machines. Not looking to impress anyone just keep the machine moving as best I can.

Ditto, my delts hurt on barbel bench, plus I have pinched nerves in my left tricep and have major atrophy in that arm, at least one inch smaller than right. So Smith for presses and close grips and squats every so often. And I used to hate it!~
 
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