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    Some guys have an irrational hatred of the Smith machine. But Arnold used it, and Yates, and many more. Even some powerlifters use it for certain accessory lifts. Dave Tate uses a Smith machine, but you're more hardcore than him, right? The arguments against it usually come back to, "It removes the stabilizing muscles.” But what if that's the whole point? What if you need to train around an injury and the Smith machine allows you to get in a position you can't get in with a barbell? With a Smith, you could still train pain-free and stimulate muscle growth. But if your ego is so huge that you can't be seen in a Smith machine, then you're only hurting yourself. And that degree of insecurity is what makes you a little bitch.
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    What if you have levers that make certain barbell movements inefficient at building certain musculature, and the Smith enables you to hypertrophy that area? Dorian Yates found that Smith machine squats were superior than barbell squats for his body type. He did okay as a bodybuilder. Zydrunas Savickas has done well as a strongman competitor and routinely uses the Smith to build his overhead press. Labeling the Smith machine "worthless" is like labeling all of Canada worthless because they gave us Nickelback and Justin Bieber. Ok, those are pretty good reasons, but you get the idea.
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    Lift alone so I use this for my heavy bench workout.
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    I use it when I do shoulder presses as my shoulders are shot.
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    I use it for squat because my form sucks otherwise at this weight.
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    I like the smith machine for warm ups, super sets and isometric work.
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    too bad i can't go to the gym, because i'd surely use it as well as the leg press. i'm sure it'd help with my old messed up body.
     

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    For bench the Smith hurts my shoulder. But normal bench doesn't.

    I prefer to use this for squats.

    I can say, despite the pain foe bench it does give me a nice pump. Just hard to train thru ��
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    I have not done a straight bar for bench in years. Hurts my shoulders way to much. Stick with DB and machines. Not looking to impress anyone just keep the machine moving as best I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drtbear1967 View Post
    I have not done a straight bar for bench in years. Hurts my shoulders way to much. Stick with DB and machines. Not looking to impress anyone just keep the machine moving as best I can.
    i know what you mean, my right shoulder especially. i use db to help keep them from hurting too much, but then i stupidly decide to give the bar a try now and then with very painful results. lol. overhead press gets my shoulders, too. i do a little better with a wide reverse grip on them.
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    I've never been a fan of the smith machine, but I am going to start using it. Just had my shoulder repaired, so I think it will help me get back in the swing of things. I do have to admit, that 90% of the smith machines I've seen, there is to much assistance to them & it just doesn't seem to feel right. Than again, maybe I never did it long enough to get used to it & maybe so much typical barbell bench is what
    Injured my shoulder in the first place. Oh well... live & learn
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    injuries suck!!
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    i like the smith macheen for behind the back shrugs, i've used it for benching too after a wrist surgery, it's definitely useful
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    The Smith is great. I donít use it all the time but since I lift alone I hit all my max lifts on it. Itís also great when dealing with injuries (like stated above) I have a tire bicep tendon and I was able to do lots of lifts with effecting my arm due the versatility of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 9mm View Post
    i like the smith macheen for behind the back shrugs, i've used it for benching too after a wrist surgery, it's definitely useful
    Not to change the subject too much, but have you guys every tried BFR ( blood flow restricted) training when dealing with an injury?
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    Smith machine is great for a number of reasons. Love it.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by yellow snow View Post
    Not to change the subject too much, but have you guys every tried BFR ( blood flow restricted) training when dealing with an injury?
    Are you referring to restriction of blood flow to keep inflammation from occurring? Iíve used it for tendons but that was opposite. Iíd like to know more about this. Kinda like compression sleeves?


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    Saw this somewhere (I think 60 minutes sports) but it's supposed to be pretty damn effective. However, you have to get the pressure just right and based on what I saw on the program, you needed to be connected to a machine that monitors a number of different things (some related to pressure). But I know very little about it.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAIR View Post
    Saw this somewhere (I think 60 minutes sports) but it's supposed to be pretty damn effective. However, you have to get the pressure just right and based on what I saw on the program, you needed to be connected to a machine that monitors a number of different things (some related to pressure). But I know very little about it.
    Hmmm. Iíll have to do some google searches then


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maj7900 View Post
    Are you referring to restriction of blood flow to keep inflammation from occurring? I’ve used it for tendons but that was opposite. I’d like to know more about this. Kinda like compression sleeves?


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    No, the theory is to use a tourniquet of some sort and life super light weights. The blood gets into an area but can't get out for a short period of time. Pumps are insane while lifting light. Hence the reason some use if when dealing with injuries that aren't muscle related( tendons, etc...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by drtbear1967 View Post
    I have not done a straight bar for bench in years. Hurts my shoulders way to much. Stick with DB and machines. Not looking to impress anyone just keep the machine moving as best I can.
    Ditto, my delts hurt on barbel bench, plus I have pinched nerves in my left tricep and have major atrophy in that arm, at least one inch smaller than right. So Smith for presses and close grips and squats every so often. And I used to hate it!~
     

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