Staying on to long

[freakinthegym]

So here we go guys , there's a reason why they call it
a cycle. It means breaks. That being said I haven't took a break in 2yrs! And running high dose. Why because I was stuck on getting bigger, well I reached the size and weight but with a cost. Last year I competed at 209lbs .this year 215lbs. Last week I hit my 250 lbs mark why to fast and my body freaked out! I thought it was the tren enth but it was everything together, walked into a doctor office yesterday and the did a ekg , well it was off so now I'm in the hospital blood work the whole nine yards. Liver is
inlarged kidney fucked up and one doc tells me get off the roids. Then Today one other one that use to compete
said your fine just watch your blood pressure. ....
wtf!? Um ok. Sure waiting on echo test results to see where we go from here.

 

[Presser]

Doctors will always say that shit, you prolly just need a break Brutha and of course keep an eye on ur health! I'm sure your fine

 

[freakinthegym]

Yeah I feel fine lol

 

[Pork Chop]

What is your definition of "running high doses" bro?

 

[freakinthegym]

2 to 2.5 grams wk

 

[Presser]

lol, yeah thats fucking high to me, way high lol

 

[freakinthegym]

Yeah I thought it was weak stuff ..... guess not*

 

[DefMetalLifter]

Damn brotha hope bloods come back ok. Ya after two years maybe do a little 4 week cruise. Haha. I know it's not easy man. Trust me I know. Ya 2 grams a week is up there if that's just your test. Or is that all compounds together?


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[freight train]

Get well bro keep us updated

 

[studmuffin]

I am about to run cycles back to back with the same amount of mgs but different compounds.

 

[LeatherHead]

2 to 2.5 grams wk

Damn! That's like a month for me! Lol

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[freakinthegym]

Well I'm out did stress test heart is fine . I just have athletic heart. Bigger then normal people, but liver inlarged so orals for while. And less protein in my diet

 

[LeatherHead]

Well I'm out did stress test heart is fine . I just have athletic heart. Bigger then normal people, but liver inlarged so orals for while. And less protein in my diet

Glad to hear you are ok man.

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[freight train]

less protein for the kidneys?

 

[JackBNimble]

Enlarged Liver

Well I'm out did stress test heart is fine . I just have athletic heart. Bigger then normal people, but liver inlarged so orals for while. And less protein in my diet

Get Synthergine NOW at least 4ML per day for the next 60days!

 

[BEASTZ6]

I would say that your days of taking orals are done, especially since your liver has sustained some damage. After your health issues are resolved you should probably consider keeping your AAS dosages under a gram while closely monitoring your bp and getting bloods on a regular basis.

 

[freakinthegym]

less protein for the kidneys?

My liver is inlarged not damaged, just like swollen but to much protein over works the liver . Making work harder. But it might of been the slin and me putting in much protein

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Plus the orals in the mix, I wanted to run some igf but have no clue if it will have effect on the fact that my liver is inlarged

 

[Powderguy]

Slin to much protein, ibuprofen and alcohol on AAS can jack the liver up. Take it easy bro, I know normal sucks but damn.
Your up there with me and im over 6ft. had enlarged liver and bp through the roof..Ive probably done every type of aas out there in the last 15 years.

You realize when to say when..

 

[freakinthegym]

I hear ya bro , I was wondering if I can get away with prop as a hrt. Since I've been on so long that way I don't crash but didn't know if it will effect my liver

 

[Powderguy]

Try Test Iso its an 8 day half life and the extra carbon atom adds a day of bioavailability to the body. its not a harsh Test, it has a relatively low affinity to bind and clears quickly. I prefer Iso over prop. Also you do not need so much as Prop.

Chemistry lesson 101:
Testosterone Propionate Profile
• 4-androstene-3-one, 17beta-ol
• Testosterone base + Propionate ester
• Molecular Weight (base): 288.429
• Molecular Weight (ester): 74.0792
• Formula (base): C19 H28 O2
• Formula (ester): C3H6O2
• Melting Point (base): 155
• Melting Point (ester): 21C
• Manufacturer: Various
• Effective Dose (Men): TRT – 25-50mg/2-3x/week – Performance: 100-200mg/every other day
• Effective Dose (Women): Not Recommended
• Active life: <2 days
• Detection Time: 2-3 weeks
• Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:100/100.

Test Iso
4-androstene-3-one, 17beta-ol
(Testosterone Base + Isocaproate Ester)
Molecular Weight(base): 288.429
Molecular Weight (ester): 116.1596
Formula (base): C19 H28 O2
Formula (ester): C6 H12 O2
Melting Point (base): 155 C
Melting Point (ester): -35
Manufacturer: 31-32 C
Effective Dose (Men): 250-1,000mgs/week
Active life: 8 days
Detection Time: Up to 6 weeks
Anabolic: Androgenic ratio: 100:100

As you can see both are essentially the same. The Formula ester is the main difference. Prop C3H602-there are 3 carbon, 6 hydrogen and of course 02. now the ISO-C6H1202-6 carbons, 12 Hydrogen and 02. this means your ISO will last longer, it will break down slower, you will need more than prop, but it has much less side effects.