4 andro

[danieljk91]

Hey guys,
so I told a friend of mine my cycle that I've been doing (alpha 1 max which metabolizes to M1T, and 4 andro as a test base). He said he's interested but nervous about starting something like m1t and might just try 4 andro as he's been looking for a test booster. Is this something that he can do? I've hardly looked up taking 4 andro by itself, but I told him if he does that he should treat it the same as a regular cycle (take MAX 6-8 weeks depending on how it affects him), should take on cycle support pills since it's oral and since it's raising his test might as well take an Anti-E like arimidex and treat it with a good PCT as well (nolva and a PCT therapy pill).
Let me know what else I might be missing and if you've heard of just using 4 andro itself and if it'd really have the benefits on its own.

 

[Mountain_Man]

Never used it myself I had some luck with PH a long time ago but nothing to rave about but who knows it may work for him

 

[danieljk91]

Never used it myself I had some luck with PH a long time ago but nothing to rave about but who knows it may work for him

Yeah I'm on my 4th week of my cycle of alpha 1 max, I just incorporated the 4 andro so I've got another 3 weeks before it's over but I'm definitely seeing some results. The back pumps suck but I'm definitely putting on some muscle and losing fat on it. Strength gains are very noticeable, too... can really push through workouts when normally I would've gassed out

 

[Mountain_Man]

Yeah I'm on my 4th week of my cycle of alpha 1 max, I just incorporated the 4 andro so I've got another 3 weeks before it's over but I'm definitely seeing some results. The back pumps suck but I'm definitely putting on some muscle and losing fat on it. Strength gains are very noticeable, too... can really push through workouts when normally I would've gassed out

Cool glad it's working for ya get some taurine for the back pumps it will help

 

[danieljk91]

Yeah I've been meaning to get some but it's really not too bad.. it's kind of forcing me to sit right in the office, too, so I don't feel it as much. Next cycle I definitely want something that's better for cutting, any recommendations?

 

[Mountain_Man]

I like whinny 50-75 mg ed
tren a 75 mg ed
prop 100 mg eod
Proviron 100 mg Ed
curting is all about diet and cardio but the gear will give u the hard lean mass look

 

[danieljk91]

Oh I'm all about the diet (been eating clean for a few months now after losing my way). I lost about 15lbs and then put on another 7 so far that seems to be all muscle. Try to do cardio a couple times a week (HIIT seems to hit me the hardest out of anything I've tried) and my diet is very low carbs with lots of protein and good fats as the basis for my intake. It seems like I'm constantly holding some water weight, though.

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I'll have to find a good source, though, as I've never messed with the "good stuff" lol. Guess I'll get to looking.

 

[Presser]

Oh I'm all about the diet (been eating clean for a few months now after losing my way). I lost about 15lbs and then put on another 7 so far that seems to be all muscle. Try to do cardio a couple times a week (HIIT seems to hit me the hardest out of anything I've tried) and my diet is very low carbs with lots of protein and good fats as the basis for my intake. It seems like I'm constantly holding some water weight, though.

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I'll have to find a good source, though, as I've never messed with the "good stuff" lol. Guess I'll get to looking.

for some reason i thought you were foreign from over seas some place, are you bro? if so it shouldn't be hard to get ur hands on "the good stuff"

 

[BEASTZ6]

Back in the day (before I stepped over to the dark side) I used the original 4-AD developed by Patrick Arnold. That stuff rocked at 600-800 mg per day.

 

[Mountain_Man]

Any updates for us brother

 

[danieljk91]

Any updates for us brother

Haha presser I'm not foreign, what makes you say that? Maybe the way I type... I email with overseas agents all day (I'm in international import/export) so I noticed I talk dumbed down as that's the only way to get them to understand...
Mountain man just finished cycle, on pct for a week, keeping the gains so far (8-9lb) and seem to be losing some water weight... I just got my first gear today but psl missed my hcg that was supposed to be included!
I'll be logging the cycle once I'm off of this pct though