26 yrs 198lbs

[Vander_V_]

heres my pics 26yrs old 198

[Vander_V_]

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[johnsomebody]

Am I the only one who's going to compliment this guy? Am I missing something?

Truly astounding physique bro!! The best I've ever seen on a site like this. If you're not already winning shows something's wrong with the world.

I'd be real interested in your cycle history if you'd care to post it.

[DEEPSEA]

AWESOME..imagine that body @ 30 yrs old ..HOLY SHIT!

[ChuckaZulu]

Looking Great Bro.

Chuck

[FlexX]

Looking awesome bro!!! How about some stats - and more importantly, what your travels have been to achieve such awesome results (Diet, gear, supplements etc)
Well done mate!

[Johan]

shit u look great

[Veinlover]

MY GOD, your body is almost perfect, you look like one of the great pros from the past , before guys got to be so rediculously huge. What a beautiful body.

V.

[proud13]

I'm going to go out on a limb here but that looks like the proofs of a member directory for a male modeling company....show some relaxed photos of yourself not posing or 'modeling'. Otherwise it's BS and you cut and pasted em' from somewhere.

[Veinlover]

Proud, maybe you are right, he is TOO perfect. I guess we'll see.

Is your avatar you? If so, love your shoulder veins, very nice. Nice pecs, too. And, clearly not from a modelling agency, lol

[johnsomebody]

Originally posted by proud13
I'm going to go out on a limb here but that looks like the proofs of a member directory for a male modeling company....show some relaxed photos of yourself not posing or 'modeling'. Otherwise it's BS and you cut and pasted em' from somewhere.

I'm sure this guy can speak for himself but you can catch more about him at...

http://www.bodybuilders.com/assche.htm

[proud13]

veinlover,
Thanks. Yeah that is me two years ago at 174 pounds in the avatar during a show. I dieted down from 243 (lots of water and drol'). This year I should look better and heavier.

johnsomebody,
Thanks for the info it looks like he did cut and paste the photos then, b/c some of them were even on that site. I'll try to find the site where he cut them from and post the results. Sorry but I'm 99% sure it's BS b/c I've seen too many people say here is a pic of my girlfriend and it's off some modeling site or something. People always want to seem special or important and hide behind there puter.

[Veinlover]

Proud, now that i"m looking at your avatar more carefully, you look amazing! YOu dieted down 60 lbs!!! and didn't lose all your muscle? amazing!! How'd you cut that much, over what time frame? Your vascularity is really terrific, and great pecs!! Biceps look good, too, big biceps veins for sure. Delts look real fine, esp. rear delts, hard to hit. Can see serratus, nice abs too. How's the lower body? Just curious, how old are you?

[proud13]

23 at time of pic (now 24 almost 25). Dieted too hard and would have been bigger but was taking 75mcg T3 a day along with clen 2wks on/off ECA, 20-30minutes of medium intensity cardio 4-6 days a week and kept going ketosis most of the week.

At 12 weeks out I was 243 and got down 174 on morning of show. Legs were the worst and lost most of the weight in them but were very vascular as well. I'll try to post some pics in a new thread.

[proud13]

http://www.onemodelplace.com/member.cfm/P_ID/25180

I believe the photos were taken from here. If you notice the Talbot/ Review Proof going up the side of the photos above this is probably the photographer that took them (Bruce Talbot).

[johnsomebody]

Well, maybe someday he'll pop by again but personally I see no reason to doubt the guy in the pic is the guy who posted them.

[SeanC1123]

I've emailed with the guy before and I'm pretty sure he's the real thing but who knows there's always a surprise out there.

[Vander_V_]

you guys Iam a fitness model lol ive been in every mag there is a year ago or so for a full page ad for HDT labs you may have seen me holding two jugs of protein under my arms with spikey hair, and yes bruce talbot is my photagrapher he took these shots great work huh, why do all of you think im fake thats not fair but I domt care cause i guess i can see where your coming from hard to tell whos really real or not , and yes i was bb of the week at bbs.com. im real ok guys lol , thanks for the compliments.

V.V

[Vander_V_]

heres a pic of me 3 years ago after my 1st show

[Vander_V_]

hers me at my first show 3 years ago

[proud13]

If that is you then more power to ya'. It looks like you're naturally lean as f*ck and I'm jealous. What is your training/diet program like?

I was supposed to have a photo shoot with a ZEI models photograper last year but 2 wks before it I had to go to the ER with a serious infection and couldn't continue my diet, cardio and esp. my training. Hopefully this year I can get that chance again.

[gypsymoth]

sweet .........great post some more pics HOttie...
hey, is your photagrapher related to bob talbot or patric nagel....

[johnsomebody]

Yeah, well I though you were for real! In fact it looks like Indian Bend Wash in the bkground of your first pic.

It would be great if you could let us know your cycle history bro.

[Vander_V_]

thanks for the compliments

[FlexX]

Vander V - any chance we could get a response to some of the questions? Stats? Diet? You on/been on the gear?
Thanks

[Vander_V_]

what questions you got? please be specific

[tool]

Great job bro! You look great. I wish I could cut up like that.

[franconian]

WOW bro you got that old time physique! look swarzy like. you got a stash of old d-bol lol

[johnsomebody]

Originally posted by Vander_V_
what questions you got? please be specific

Well, like I said I'd be inerested in knowing your cycle history -what works best for you etc.

[Vander_V_]

please ask questions regarding diet or workout.

[Koevoet]

Originally posted by proud13
If that is you then more power to ya'. It looks like you're naturally lean as f*ck and I'm jealous. What is your training/diet program like?

I was supposed to have a photo shoot with a ZEI models photograper last year but 2 wks before it I had to go to the ER with a serious infection and couldn't continue my diet, cardio and esp. my training. Hopefully this year I can get that chance again.

Proud. this guy's legit. He trains at the same gym as Phil Hernon in AZ, Phil has vouched for him on ProMuscle.

[FlexX]

Originally posted by Vander_V_
please ask questions regarding diet or workout.

I basicly wanted to know what your training and diet regime is over a 6 month period.
What do you train and how often per week - do you bulk up and then diet to get ripped or just work lean all the way? Also if it's not too personal a question, do you take any gear to help you.
Also what supplements (protein, creating etc).
Would really appreciate your reply on the above questions.
My goal is to be what you are today.
You can PM me your reply if you like.

Thanks in advance,

[shorty2big]

great physique bro. I was in the same show you were last November. You look great.
S2B

[wakestud16]

bump

[Vander_V_]

236lbs , 5'9

[Vander_V_]

chest

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legs

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[Vander_V_]

golds gym venice photo shoot

[tool]

Bro you look f*ckin ripped.. great job

[FlexX]

I basicly wanted to know what your training and diet regime is over a 6 month period.
What do you train and how often per week - do you bulk up and then diet to get ripped or just work lean all the way? Also if it's not too personal a question, do you take any gear to help you.
Also what supplements (protein, creating etc).
Would really appreciate your reply on the above questions.
My goal is to be what you are today.
You can PM me your reply if you like.

Thanks in advance,

[FlexX]

AND ONE MORE INCASE YOU MISSED THE OTHER THREE TIMES I ASKED THIS....

I basicly wanted to know what your training and diet regime is over a 6 month period.
What do you train and how often per week - do you bulk up and then diet to get ripped or just work lean all the way? Also if it's not too personal a question, do you take any gear to help you.
Also what supplements (protein, creating etc).
Would really appreciate your reply on the above questions.
My goal is to be what you are today.
You can PM me your reply if you like.

Thanks in advance,

[Flexmaster]

there is no point in asking a guy his gear history. vander will tell you that his genetics and diet have played the biggest part in his physique, not the gear. vander, i'm glad you threw up the pic of you and cormier, i still smell that pro card!

[jtunderdog]

Very impressive. Do I smell eq??? Those veins are freakyyyyy. Hey bro just to let you know if you aren't the real Vander you are the freakiest voyeur on earth with that poor guy. LOL One day when I get big Ill look like one of the ladies on here maybe. Oops Im gonna be 30 in november.

[Vander_V_]

heres me at 241lbs on my way down to 212 for my show comming up in november.


sorry i didnt get back about the supps or routine i never speak about gear. heres what i do.

bcaas
hmb
creatine
glucosamine
glutamine
whey protein
tuna shakes
dhea
jarro zymes
msm
liver tabs
glycogine loaders
proscar
multi vitamin
encanacia


my routine goes a little something like this

mon - legs
tues - back width day + calves
weds - chest calves + abs
thurs - hamstrings + shoulders
fri - back width day + calves
sat - bis + tris
sun OFF

always change my workouts not one is ever the same. hope this helps. and i do believe in higher reps for quality muscle, like 12 reps.

[Vander_V_]

another one

[MMX2]

Originally posted by Vander_V_
heres me at 241lbs on my way down to 212 for my show comming up in november.


sorry i didnt get back about the supps or routine i never speak about gear. heres what i do.

bcaas
hmb
creatine
glucosamine
glutamine
whey protein
tuna shakes
dhea
jarro zymes
msm
liver tabs
glycogine loaders
proscar
multi vitamin
encanacia


my routine goes a little something like this

mon - legs
tues - back width day + calves
weds - chest calves + abs
thurs - hamstrings + shoulders
fri - back width day + calves
sat - bis + tris
sun OFF

always change my workouts not one is ever the same. hope this helps. and i do believe in higher reps for quality muscle, like 12 reps.

Looks good- what does your AS regimen look like? How do you incorporate Gh into your supplementation?

[Vander_V_]

if you read my last post you would have seen that i said i DO NOT ever talk about gear , theres no secrets just train hard and HONESTLY thats the truth ,,, genitics + training = MUSCLE

[fishtownfreak]

Good to see you over here Vander V. I havent seen much of you over on Pro muscle lately? Rea is looking great as always, and you need to bring her over here, she is an inspiration for all at her young age

[eddiez]

Vander...they will get it sooner or later...about the gear
Great work bro and congrats
Train like a freak
Hopefully i will be there with you soon

[jackedupcrazy]

he said he never speaks about gear....he never said he didn't take any gear. lol I hear ya bro....dont wanna tarnish the rep. I think people could understand that.

[eddiez]

JUC stop following me LMAO

[mace]

Damn bro, you're a beast. It's always great to see lots of pics with a member's progress. Thanks for all the pics and good luck in November.

JUC and eddiez, stop posting before me.

[Vander_V_]

Heres me in this months issue of Planet Muscle MAG .

Thanks for the compliments

[Vander_V_]

recent photo

[Vander_V_]

Quater turn

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quads

[Lord Odin]

Looking nice Iron Bro...keep up the great work.

Stay True to the Iron!!!

[eddiez]

Ok really stop posting bro you are making me jealous and wanting to hit the gym TWICE today///LMAO

[mace]

Hey V, you got any bulking diets you can post.

Much appreciated.

[jake steed]

Don't you ever wonder what the long term effect of using all thoses supplements is going to do to your liver and kidneys? Do you ever take time off from all supplements?

You look awesome. I just wonder how much stress your body is in?

[Cannons]

Well, I guess I got to this one a little late, cause I was gonna vouch for Vander (even though he didn't really need it). I've been apart of SuperiorMuscle for a while and seen him on there posting progress pics and basically all of the stuff he's posted here. He's the real deal people, no bullshittin there. DON'T HATE, APPRECIATE!! LOL!! He's motivation for all of us!!

[IronMike]

Originally posted by proud13
I'm going to go out on a limb here but that looks like the proofs of a member directory for a male modeling company....show some relaxed photos of yourself not posing or 'modeling'. Otherwise it's BS and you cut and pasted em' from somewhere. Fraid not. Vander's the real deal and has a big future I'd say. I'm about his age and it goes to show what busting your guts and dedication can get you. IronMike

[DoubleWide22]

awesome bro. legs are a bit behind upper body. but thats just cuz your huge . good work

[wheelzdgh]

Originally posted by DoubleWide22
awesome bro. legs are a bit behind upper body. but thats just cuz your huge . good work Vanders in a fukin magazine yet DW still has the balls to say his legs are small, get big, then talk shit, or come over and cuddle with me-wheelz

[DoubleWide22]

please wheelz im simply giving constructive critiscm dumb ass. bottom line is he is huge.you are not

now lets talk about whats ironic. your name is wheelz and my arms are bigger then your legs(wheelz) now thats funny you tiny puke. who are you to tell me to get big . im fucken 275lbs dumb ass.

[da_Fonz]

Allright, allright. Lets keep this little quarrel off the boards.

[wheelzdgh]

My name is wheelz cause I played spades real well when I was younger and the name stuck. Everyone I know has called me wheelz since I was 12!!! Now for the shit talking, give it up, you know what youre all about, I told you what I wanted to do about it. Im done with you and Pincrusher!! You dont see me following you around talking shit!!!

[Bignick]

wow i can't tell who is serious and who isn't here!!! but good thread.....vander v. looking good bro....alright imma do some push ups on that note

[DoubleWide22]

wheelz you started shit on another board when i askd of a certain person. even mods agreed it needed to be brought out. i had the balls to ask just like you apparently do on certain topics and thats why you get banned. so were not so different. i call this person out and you flame me and start shit even when respected mods were thinking the same thing. you fucked up and started shit. so if you want it to be done apologize and its over. what pisses me off is we havent said two words to eachother since that post on freakz and then you go flame me like you fucken no me. you bitch that wasnt cool

[wheelzdgh]

WTF, you found my pix and posted that my spread was awful, grow up kid, dead issue!!!

[irishpride]

alright thats enough from everyone...no fuckin more...anymore from ANYONE and i will suspend them..you guys have problems use the PM's

[river]

Hell the hard work shows and I am one that is happy to see anyone rewarded for the hard work and dedication!

[Chaps]

You have alot of potential, you've got slabs of thick QUALITY muscle, your goin places.

[tilla52]

Damn, look awesome bro.

[mbell97]

Absolutely incredible man. If that isn't the spitting image of Franco Columbo i dont' know what is. Huge back tine waist, you are the only i have seen of today bodybuilders that can say they have that (well no gut at least). Great job.

[Chaps]

You've got an excellent back, let's see a back double biceps pic.

[Bignick]

where is he now? i thought he was doing pretty well from what others were saying? pro card? Modeling? anyone know

[Cannons]

where is he now? i thought he was doing pretty well from what others were saying? pro card? Modeling? anyone know

Not sure but he mods on professionalmuscle. I go there about once a year, lol, if I see him I'll ask.

[da_Fonz]

I think he was in another mag not to long ago with his girl.

[Chaps]

I saw him in a mag in an add for kilosports i believe it was, the product was an ant-e supplement.

[Flexmaster]

Not sure but he mods on professionalmuscle. I go there about once a year, lol, if I see him I'll ask.
he gets on there from time to time now...but he's not a mod. i dont think thats really his style.

[Cannons]

he gets on there from time to time now...but he's not a mod. i dont think thats really his style.

Yeah I realized that I thought he was. Hes in a lot of different fitness/bb mags. Matter of fact, I just bought a MuscleMag last night and his pics are all over an article titled Colassol Chest.

[Flexmaster]

yeah, he did a great job of getting his pics out there and making himself known. not to mention busting his ass in the gym to get to the level he is at.

[Presser]

bump , im goping through some photos for inspiration and have to say this is definatly one of the ones that makes you want to work harder, KUDOS to Vander

[MdTNT]

He is a hard worker and straight forward....I have read a good bit of his post on ohter boards and always like what he has to say. Last i heard he was about to have a part in a movie, I'm guessing as an extra but once again it is still exposure and that is what its about.

[da_Fonz]

He's def inspirational for anyone who want some motivation

[Vander_V_]

Been a looong time brothas, Ive been just enjoying life working hard and liftinng the heavy weights, Iam now 30 yrs old and have been bulking for 2 years or so, I just wanted to add some extra muscle and see what I could do with this physique of mine.

heres a recent pic of me at 235 Im now up to 255 but rather fat and bulky lol.

[teedubgee]

Awesome progress man! I hope I continue to progress year after year like you.

[Presser]

Been a looong time brothas, Ive been just enjoying life working hard and liftinng the heavy weights, Iam now 30 yrs old and have been bulking for 2 years or so, I just wanted to add some extra muscle and see what I could do with this physique of mine.

heres a recent pic of me at 235 Im now up to 255 but rather fat and bulky lol.

Well Vander I think I said it before and I'll say it again..............I HATE YOU! :curse: LMAO, Great genitcs bro,

[Spiderman]

Unbelievable bro...it's good to see you around here, and way to go!!!

[mikeswift]

Been a looong time brothas, Ive been just enjoying life working hard and liftinng the heavy weights, Iam now 30 yrs old and have been bulking for 2 years or so, I just wanted to add some extra muscle and see what I could do with this physique of mine.

heres a recent pic of me at 235 Im now up to 255 but rather fat and bulky lol.
Welcome back bro, stick around this time and pass on some of your knowledge to the rest of the gang.

[Get_Swole]

good to see ya around again vander. Man your looking great freakin huge and very impressive. Stick around like mike says man good to see your doing good.

[Vander_V_]

Welcome back bro, stick around this time and pass on some of your knowledge to the rest of the gang.
Thx all, and yes I will be around here posting alot more.

[dreww]

Been a looong time brothas, Ive been just enjoying life working hard and liftinng the heavy weights, Iam now 30 yrs old and have been bulking for 2 years or so, I just wanted to add some extra muscle and see what I could do with this physique of mine.

heres a recent pic of me at 235 Im now up to 255 but rather fat and bulky lol.

wow, looking impressive bro. the xtra weight sits on you well.

[vertigorocks]

You defintly have been doing some amazing work I remember when I first started visting this site seeing your pics and a little over two years later here you are MUCH bigger. The weight defintly does sit well on you as drew said.

[alterntego]

great physic , you remind me of a li'l arnold . you fucker