If you use dbol use it for bulking and add a weaker deca to the mix while gaining good lean muscle you will also have some bulk. the end result is a somewhat solid gain..Or stay away from it at all and use just deca. Naps are good but, 20mg a day will put bulk on a chicken even, keep the cycle no longer than 8weeks if you sue it...and use clomid and other antiestros during and afterwards..I take naps too...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ J/K.