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    Default Wow, the IRS is corrupt?! What??!



    So these are the ass clowns that determine if you are paying what you should pay etc, but damn do they seem to be about as corrupt and Liberal as a Dictator could want...
    The IRS targeting Tea Party groups and other conservative-leaning political organizations has reignited calls for reform and the argument among Capitol Hill Republicans that the federal government has become too big and out of control.
    Among those leading the calls for reform is Michigan Rep. Dave Camp, chairman of the Republican-led House Ways and Means Committee, which held a hearing on the scandal five days after the targeting was made public and two days after the resignation of acting IRS Commissioner Steven Miller.
    “This systemic abuse cannot be fixed with just one resignation,” Camp said at the start of the hearing Wednesday. “This is a problem of the IRS being too large, too powerful, too intrusive and too abusive of honest, hardworking taxpayers.”
    The inspector general’s report made public May 11 found that IRS employees at the agency’s Determinations Unit from spring 2010 until about fall 2011 used keyword searches such as “tea party” and “patriot” to target groups applying for tax-exempt status.
    The groups were then subjected to further IRS investigation and document requests, with some having their applications delayed for nearly three years. At least 98 applicants were asked for such information as donor lists and whether family members planned to run for public office.
    The Treasury Department inspector general told top IRS officials in roughly June 2012 that it was investigating the targeting allegations, which suggests the Obama administration knew about the situation in the backstretch of the president's re-election campaign.
    The calls for reform range from revamping the country’s complicated tax code to perhaps overhauling the entire tax-collection agency.
    “This is a perfect example of why we need tax reform,” Arkansas Republican Rep. Tim Griffin said Friday.
    The idea of reforming the tax code is nothing new, with 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney among the most recent to try by proposing a more across-the-board or “flatter” tax rate with fewer deductions and loopholes.
    And during his party’s primary debates, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich were among the candidates who proposed simplifying the code.
    “Seven percent flat tax,” Perry said during a Jan. 2012 debate sponsored by Fox News. “Simple. Keep it simple.”
    However, Camp is suggesting more sweeping reform.
    “Trimming a few branches will not solve the problem when the roots of the tree have gone rotten,” he said. “That is exactly what has happened with our entire tax system -- it is rotten at the core, and it must be ripped out so we can start fresh.”
    Potential 2016 Republican presidential candidates have also gotten into the conservation.
    “This president has grown the size, the scope, the debt and the power of the federal government to such irresponsible proportions … that this is the inevitable result,” Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal said Saturday at the Virginia Republicans’ annual convention.
    Conservatives from at least as far back as President Reagan to Libertarian and former Texas Rep. Ron Paul have called for the shuttering or scaling back of such federal groups as the Education Department and the Environmental Protection Agency, saying they have exceeded their scope of power and such decisions are better made on the state level.
    However, nobody so far appears to have a plan for a large-scale overhaul.
    Utah Republican Sen. Mike Lee tried earlier this week to mitigate criticism about the outrage over the IRS being largely political, saying the federal government is “inherently dysfunctional, corrupt and intolerant regardless of who is in charge.”
    And he was among the first to suggest at a fix.
    “The long-term solution is for the American people to demand that government be less involved, less intrusive and therefore less able to carry out these kinds of abuses,” he said.


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...#ixzz2TsWUC0A6
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    sounds like Watergate all over again (at least a portion of it)

    BTW who do you think is going to run Obumacare??? same people that are running the IRS

    if they are going to politically profile what's going to stop them from profiling in other areas such as religion? such as whether a person is part of the NRA? all dictators, I mean polititians hate guns

    they probably just go to Facebook and whoever has the most keywords that's who will get audited
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    Yep it's corrupt and there's no way you can tell me the Obama admin didn't know about this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    Yep it's corrupt and there's no way you can tell me the Obama admin didn't know about this!
    they knew about it that's why they are catching heat over it-just like Watergate

    just like Fast and Furious, just like Bengazi-they know about all this crap they just deny it all
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    Quote Originally Posted by dorian123 View Post
    they knew about it that's why they are catching heat over it-just like Watergate

    just like Fast and Furious, just like Bengazi-they know about all this crap they just deny it all
    yeah they try their best to insulate him! lol.
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    yeah there was some Politian that once said, "deny everything, take credit for all, and be quick to point your finger"

    I'm paraphrasing, but something to that effect

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    Default Wow, the IRS is corrupt?! What??!

    If you read the story its says that IRS admins were searching the Corps and terms like "patriot" and "Tea Party". These guys actions are 1000% exactly the same as Obama proposed plans. They are using the IRS to try to criminalize groups whose beliefs don't coincide with Totalitarian Dictatorship system of Government.
    The are already calling it "IRSgate" on several News channels.
    The last 4 years have been scary as shit.
    To sum it up
    1. we have a guy as President that doesn't salute the Flag.
    2. He socialized medicine and in doing so caused EVERYONE'S costs to go up and coverage to go down. If you can't afford Health Insurance, you will be financially penalized in an increasing penalty schedule.
    3. He tried to outlaw Guns and take them from citizens
    4. DHS purchased enough ammo to empty a magazine into every American man, woman, and child and in doing so emptied the market of ammunition for the public.
    5. Under his watch, the IRS has blatantly attacked Conservatives and those who want smaller Govt, by trying to criminalize and financially penalize anyone associated with such beliefs.
    6. Should I get started on the Sequestration?! He tried to get his atrocious policies rammed through by threatening to cut spending from absolutely FUNDAMENTAL areas, while not affecting any of the Govt Garbage that is draining us dry i.e. DHS, EPA, Welfare programs, etc.
    7. Should I touch on the "Fiscal Cliff"??
    I'm getting sick. I truly hope you guys are prepared. This shit is crazy. Take a step back and look...
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    This is way worse than Watergate. Combined with the AP Wire tapping scandal and Benghazi coverup and lies. The Fast and Furious debacle that got a Federal Agent killed.

    Obama is without a doubt the most corrupt President ever. Hillary should be in jail for perjur and Eric Holder should be disbarred and thrown in jail for treason. Eric Holder allowed the sell of guns to Mexican Drug Lords and got a Federal agent killed, all to create a motive to get the American people to support and Assault Weapons Ban.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dorian123 View Post
    yeah there was some Politian that once said, "deny everything, take credit for all, and be quick to point your finger"

    I'm paraphrasing, but something to that effect
    Its called Plausible Deniability. Admit Nothing, Deny Everything and Make Counter Accusations.
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    and the best part of all this is the majority of the American public voted for him, or so we're told

    "and doesn't it make you feel better, the pigs have won tonight, they can all sleep soundly, and everything is all right."-Nine Inch Nails...Trent Reznor

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    White House Explains: Obama Didn't Know What He Knew When Everyone Else Knew What He Should Have Known | Zero Hedge

    Here is a great article from Zero Hedge. If you do not read this blog, I suggest you do.

    Quote from the article.


    Here is The Hill with the White House's official explanation for what happened: "White House officials were notified of a Treasury Department inspector general report on the IRS but elected not to tell President Obama about it." In other words, neither the IRS was not aware of what is going on (recall the countless "I don't knows" and "I don't recalls") and apparently, neither was the president. And in fact, it was someone else's executive duty to make the decision what the chief executive of the nation is and isn't allowed to know.


    Bottom line is the WH and the media are in Spin mode and at all cost are trying to protect Obama and say he didnt know shit when it was his job as chief executive to know exactly what is political appointees and cabinet members are doing under his watch. They are liars and crooks.
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    YEAH!!! and they can do whatever they want...and your tax money pays for it all

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    I have never felt as insulted in my life as I have been by the blatant trash this administration tries to feed to the General Public. I guess there is reason as according to the "Polls" Americans like what Obama is doing.
    The fact is that anyone who believes that the President of The United States of America didnt know that this was going on was either too busy eating crayons or one of the few who should be receiving some form of Government Disabilty as they are Fucking Braindead.
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    Just throwing it out there. Vote for "The Dude" in 2016 (If we bother pretending to still be a democracy at this point and still have the useless formality of what is now elections".
    My platform will be "I can't possibly fuck you guys over as bad as Obama and I salute the flag!!"
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    The reason Obama's poll number do not go down is the 53% approval rating he gets are the 53% of the population that are on the take. This 53% loves Obama for his EBT, Disability, Food Stamps, and Section 8 housing.

    We are through the looking glass. I do not think we will ever have another Small Govt, Little r, Constitution abiding Republican in office again. Both parties are drunk on the power of Big Govt. Look at the last 3 nominees for the Republicans. GWB, actually won two elections and grew the size of govt more than anyone besides Obama. Then you had McCain and Romney. McCain is a RINO and Romney is a Massachusetts Socialized Medicine Liberal.

    We keep nominating pieces of shit then gigantic turds will keep getting elected. No matter the political party.
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    Or as my far left leaning Brother said, hell yes the IRS targeted Tea Party, Pariots and whatever key words that were in thier name. They are the ones who try everything to not pay taxes. So in effect the far left is justifying IRS actions. As a gym owner, the IRS has basically left me alone (knock on wood) but I also know what they are capable of.

    Every time I see Obama his hair looks more salt and pepper. Soon it'll all be gray. With all the scandels hanging over his head, I would be too. Hopefully one of these gets him impeached

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Survivor View Post
    Or as my far left leaning Brother said, hell yes the IRS targeted Tea Party, Pariots and whatever key words that were in thier name. They are the ones who try everything to not pay taxes. So in effect the far left is justifying IRS actions. As a gym owner, the IRS has basically left me alone (knock on wood) but I also know what they are capable of.

    Every time I see Obama his hair looks more salt and pepper. Soon it'll all be gray. With all the scandels hanging over his head, I would be too. Hopefully one of these gets him impeached
    What your far left leaning, and I'll add idiot, Brother fails to realize. If the political pendulum swings back to the right does he want the IRS harassing illegally political organizations he supports? Of course the answer is no because people on the left have no respect for the rule of law, the constitution or what is just and moral. They only care about what they care about. Your brother is what Lenin referred to as a "Useful Idiot".

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    when Obama steps in front of the cameras in view of a new scandal this is what's running through his mind,
    " Yeah, yeah, yeah que no pare la fiesta-don't stop the party-yeah, yeah, yeah, que no pare la fiesta-don't stop the party!" Pitbull

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    so now you have Obama denying the whole thing and the IRS is pleading the 5th

    hmmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by CH3NO2 View Post
    What your far left leaning, and I'll add idiot, Brother fails to realize. If the political pendulum swings back to the right does he want the IRS harassing illegally political organizations he supports? Of course the answer is no because people on the left have no respect for the rule of law, the constitution or what is just and moral. They only care about what they care about. Your brother is what Lenin referred to as a "Useful Idiot".
    As much as I disagree w/my Brother politically, I still love him to death, hes just misguided and listens too much to BSNBC. I have noticed that what Clint Eastwood said was true, that the Left just loves to toot thier horn and that the Right are more reserved. As much as I try to stay in the center, I am a registered GOP so will the IRS target me?? But your point is well taken, so what if the IRS decided to hit all the Wall Street protestors??? Or whatever thier name was, all the idiots that hung out in larger cities last yr at banking centers and caused quite the scene?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Survivor View Post
    Or as my far left leaning Brother said, hell yes the IRS targeted Tea Party, Pariots and whatever key words that were in thier name. They are the ones who try everything to not pay taxes. So in effect the far left is justifying IRS actions. As a gym owner, the IRS has basically left me alone (knock on wood) but I also know what they are capable of.

    Every time I see Obama his hair looks more salt and pepper. Soon it'll all be gray. With all the scandels hanging over his head, I would be too. Hopefully one of these gets him impeached
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    I was off today and actually watched some of these Congressional Hearings. These people testifying today are without a doubt lying and covering for the Administration. One asshole that worked in a high level for the IRS visited the White House 118 times since the IRS started targeting Tea Party and Conservative Groups. He denied ever once saying he discussed what the IRS was doing. They all acknowledge they were doing it, yet nobody knows anything, nobody knows who gave the order????

    Fucking bullshit.

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    Do you guys think anyone will actually take the fall? Or should I say, someone that SHOULD be found guilty. And I say that because I'm sure eventually some little nobody will be the scapegoat

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    Quote Originally Posted by big n wv View Post
    Do you guys think anyone will actually take the fall? Or should I say, someone that SHOULD be found guilty. And I say that because I'm sure eventually some little nobody will be the scapegoat
    The corruption is rampant and the root of it is our Government, not a small group or a few people. Yes someone will be sacrificed so that it can be brushed aside. Actually FIXING this would require a total collapse of our current administration and the dissolution of all of the corrupt bloated agencies that have come into power and have made an SOP of overstepping their constraints
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