Lean bulking cycle - t400 or test prop with anavar?

Hi,


I posted a thread a couple weeks ago and I have two cycle options I am still trying to decide on. I typically run 10-12wk cycles but I have a photo shoot in Israel so will be travelling for 2 weeks in June which only gives me 8 weeks to run my next cycle. I want to get a cycle in before my shoot to put on some lean bulk. I have detailed the goals I am hoping to achieve below and the 2 cycle choices which I am still undecided on. I am reaching out to this forum to receive some opinions.


My Goals:
Lean bulking - My goal is to put on lean muscle ( aiming for about 5lbs of lean muscle in 8 weeks keeping my bf% consistent which is currently 13%. My calorie intake is just above my TDEE @ 3000 calories per day which will keep me on track with my lean bulking objectives.




My Stats: 6.1, 206lbs, 13%bf, 32yrs old
I just received my blood work back and my natural test levels are still suppressed from my last cycle so I know it not ideal to start my next cycle but have no choice. Given all this information I am considering choosing one of the below cycles. Hoping for some feedback and opinions from this forum as I am still undecided on which protocol would be most ideal given my natty test levels are still suppressed and I can only run this cycle for 8 weeks. Any feedback would be great guys thanks.


Option 1:


- Week 1 to 8: test Prop @ 100 mg every 3.5 days (200mg/week total)
- Week 2 to 8: Anavar @ 40 mg ED
- Week 1 to 8: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 7 to 8: Test e @ 150mg every 3.5 days to bridge 2 week gap until pct (300mg/week)
- Week 1 to 10: Arimidex @ 0.5mg every 3.5days (From day 2 up until PCT starts)

Post cycle Therapy: Tamoxifen (Nolvadex ) and Clomiphene (Clomid).

Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20


Option 2:

- Week 1 to 8: t400[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] @ 1 ml every 3.5 days (2ml/week total) - Each mL contains 200mg test e, 100mg test [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]cyp, 100mg test prop[/FONT]
- Week 2 to 8: Anavar @ 40 mg ED
- Week 1 to 8: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 7 to 8: Test e @ 150mg every 3.5 days to bridge 2 week gap until pct (300mg/week)
- Week 1 to 10: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)

Post cycle Therapy: Tamoxifen (Nolvadex ) and Clomiphene (Clomid).

Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20
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I have also been running GH for the past 12 weeks @ 200 iu for 5 days a week. I will be continue with this dose until the end of the year. My blood work showed that my insulin levels are suppressed which I expected.

stocktrainer said:

Hi,


I posted a thread a couple weeks ago and I have two cycle options I am still trying to decide on. I typically run 10-12wk cycles but I have a photo shoot in Israel so will be travelling for 2 weeks in June which only gives me 8 weeks to run my next cycle. I want to get a cycle in before my shoot to put on some lean bulk. I have detailed the goals I am hoping to achieve below and the 2 cycle choices which I am still undecided on. I am reaching out to this forum to receive some opinions.


My Goals:
Lean bulking - My goal is to put on lean muscle ( aiming for about 5lbs of lean muscle in 8 weeks keeping my bf% consistent which is currently 13%. My calorie intake is just above my TDEE @ 3000 calories per day which will keep me on track with my lean bulking objectives.




My Stats: 6.1, 206lbs, 13%bf, 32yrs old
I just received my blood work back and my natural test levels are still suppressed from my last cycle so I know it not ideal to start my next cycle but have no choice. Given all this information I am considering choosing one of the below cycles. Hoping for some feedback and opinions from this forum as I am still undecided on which protocol would be most ideal given my natty test levels are still suppressed and I can only run this cycle for 8 weeks. Any feedback would be great guys thanks.


Option 1:


- Week 1 to 8: test Prop @ 100mg every 3.5 days (200mg/week total)
- Week 2 to 8: Anavar @ 40 mg ED
- Week 1 to 8: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 7 to 8: Test e @ 150mg every 3.5 days to bridge 2 week gap until pct (300mg/week)
- Week 1 to 10: Arimidex @ 0.5mg every 3.5days (From day 2 up until PCT starts)

Post cycle Therapy: Tamoxifen (Nolvadex ) and Clomiphene (Clomid).

Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20


Option 2:

- Week 1 to 8: t400 @ 1 ml every 3.5 days (2ml/week total) - Each mL contains 200mg test e, 100mg test cyp, 100mg test prop
- Week 2 to 8: Anavar @ 40 mg ED
- Week 1 to 8: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 7 to 8: Test e @ 150mg every 3.5 days to bridge 2 week gap until pct (300mg/week)
- Week 1 to 10: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)

Post cycle Therapy: Tamoxifen (Nolvadex ) and Clomiphene (Clomid).

Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20



I have also been running GH for the past 12 weeks @ 200 iu for 5 days a week. I will be continue with this dose until the end of the year. My blood work showed that my insulin levels are suppressed which I expected.

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yeah neither cycle makes sense to me bro, test enanthate for two weeks at week 7 and 8 makes no sense at all bro, its a long ester steroid. and propionate you want every day or every other day but not every 3 and half days!!!

your over thinking it bro, prop EOD and anavar is more then enough for a nice cycle

Test prop 100mg/eod
anavar 60-120mg/day
T400 Don't bother
Test E Don't bother (unless you start asap)
Arimidex is for during cycle AI .25 eod
HCG your dosage is fine

And it's not your supression that determines if you should take the next cycle it's your LDL/HDL/BP/Liver/RBC/Kidney. Your informatin is off. And your dosages are off. I can't even believe you are taking hgh. Have you had any side effects from the GH? If you don't have enough anavar for at least 60mg a day don't bother. 8 weeks is not a long time your diet is going to have to be pretty close to perfect.

Presser said:

yeah neither cycle makes sense to me bro, test enanthate for two weeks at week 7 and 8 makes no sense at all bro, its a long ester steroid. and propionate you want every day or every other day but not every 3 and half days!!!

your over thinking it bro, prop EOD and anavar is more then enough for a nice cycle

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Thanks for the feedback Presser. The reason why I want to throw in a long ester is because i am traveling for 2 weeks after my last injection. Running a prop/var only cycle means I would need to start pct 3.5 days after last injection which is not possible. What do you think if I added 200mg of test e to my stack as per below to bridge me to my pct:

- Week 1 to 8: Prop @ 100mg (1ml) EOD (300mg/week total) - Tues/Thurs/Sat
- Week 2 to 8: Test e @ 100mg twice a week (200mg/week total) - Tues & Sat
- Week 1 to 6: Anavar @ 40 mg ED ( split into 2 - one morning, one evening)
- Week 1 to 8: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 11: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)
- Week 11-14: PCT: Clomid @ 75/50/50/50

Thanks for your feedback Raysd21. I have not had any side effects with the HGH. My dose is really low and you only gain any benefit from GH by running it long term. You seem surprised I have had no side effects. What side effects would you have expected to see at that dose?

Dude you know about esters and the time it takes for the release of the hormone so just do what you think you need to do with your schedule and flying. With GH a lot of people get pain or tingling in the hands and feet. I'm just wondering if it is real cause a lot of that stuff is fake.

yeah whats the breakdown of that HGH , another words what do ya mean by 200 i.u.s 5 times per week? total, daily? I'm a little confused