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real pro cycle
Sorry, this is a bit old. But im trying to get down to the bottom of what pro's are actually using. I found this wrote in first person, by Tom Prince
Tom Prince; 2001 Night Of Champions Cycle It's been over 6 years since I last stepped on stage. I remember promising a ton of peeps that one day I would post this. So, here it is, folks. My 2001 Night of Champions Cycle. Just for fun.. Tom Week #1: 4 iu's GH/day; 4 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day Week #2: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day Week #3: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab Week #4: 4 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab Week #5: 6iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab Week #6: 6 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab Week #7: off; 5000 iu HCG/day; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only) Week #8: off; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only) Week #9: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only) Week #10: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only) Week #11: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only) Week #12: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only) Week #13: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 5 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only) Week #14: 6 iu's GH/day; 1500 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only) Week #15: off 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only) **Week #16: off; 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 10 x Clenbuterol tab (Sun, Mon, Tue only), 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only) **Day of contest was at the end of 16th Week. |
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I want to know what off-season cycles look like. Have any info on that?
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I would like to know that, too.
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I once heard in an interview with Gregg Valentino he said he personally knew some pros who we're using up to 4 grams of test per week
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Greg Valentino also said his arms were muscle just sayin.
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I remember when Prince's liver shut down. He was on the way up and had some of the best quads at that time. He almost died if I remember right.
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lol point well taken....
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lol i just hate that guy so any chance i have to take a shot at him i do haha.
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What do you think that cycle cost?
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a lot for someone.
I've used up to 1500. Only problem i ever have is my bp. |
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once again, the fda keeps the dangerous legal and bans the helpful.
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I meant kidneys sorry. I remember he was on dialysis for some time. Thanks for the correction though.
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I do not beleive it...if You read the entire original thread Prince contridicts himself several times in it....such as he uses NOTHING but stuff right out of a US pharmacy(yet sus is his base)
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This is from Anabolics 2006.
2-phase cycle used by an IFBB professional bodybuilder. He used this cycle leading up to a recent show in which he placed in the top 5. Total use duration was 17 weeks, or approximately 4 months. This cycle dispels the myth that all pros all need to take massive doses of steroids, or exotic and expensive compounds like IGF-1, to be competitive. The 1-2 gram per week range in this program is formidable, but not unreasonable given the level of performance of the athlete. The most exotic drugs taken in this 2 part stack are insulin and GH, which are "basic" bodybuilding drugs by any standard. It does, however, make use of c-17 alpha alkylated compounds for prolonged periods of time, which does legitimately add some level of risk. This bodybuilder was smart enough to have regular health checkups during his cycles and tried to mitigate the negative cardiovascular side effects as best he could with diet and exercise. Although no adverse health effects were reported, it should be noted the pro level cycles are especially not recommended for beginnners, and are definitely "use at your own risk" kind of programs. Phase I/bulking week 1- Testosterone Enanthate 1000 mg, Deca 500 mg, Dbol 50mg/day GH 4IU/3IU, Insulin 14IU, Nolvadex 20 mg/day week 2- Testosterone Enanthate 1000 mg, Deca 500 mg, Dbol 50mg/day GH 4IU/3IU, Insulin 14IU, Nolvadex 20 mg/day week 3- Testosterone Enanthate 750 mg, Deca 500 mg, Dbol 50mg/day GH 4IU/3IU, Insulin 14IU, Nolvadex 20 mg/day week 4- Testosterone Enanthate 750 mg, Deca 500 mg, Dbol 50mg/day GH 4IU/3IU, Insulin 14IU, Nolvadex 20 mg/day week 5- Testosterone Enanthate 750 mg, Equipoise 500 mg, Dbol 50mg/day GH 4IU/3IU, Insulin 14IU, Nolvadex 20 mg/day week 6- Testosterone Enanthate 750 mg, Equipoise 500 mg, Dbol 50mg/day GH 4IU/3IU, Insulin 14IU, Nolvadex 20 mg/day week 7- Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg, Equipoise 500 mg, Dbol 50mg/day GH 4IU/3IU, Insulin 14IU, Nolvadex 20 mg/day week 8- Testosterone Enanthate 750 mg, Equipoise 500 mg, drop the dbol GH 4IU/3IU, Insulin 14IU, Nolvadex 20 mg/day Insulin (humalog) is taken 7IU in the morning and 7IU before training, with a loading of carbohydrates. Growth hormone is taken 4IU on training days, 3IU for non-training days. Phase II/Cutting week 1- Testosterone Propionate 1000mg/day, Deca 500 mg, Proviron 75mg/day week 2- Testosterone Propionate 1000mg/day, Deca 500 mg, Proviron 75mg/day week 3- Testosterone Propionate 1000mg/day, Deca 500 mg, Proviron 75mg/day week 4- Testosterone Propionate 1000mg/day, Deca 500 mg, Proviron 75mg/day week 5- Testosterone Propionate 1000mg/day, Deca 500 mg, Proviron 75mg/day week 6- Tren 225 mg, winstrol 100mg/ EOD, Halotestin 20mg/day, Proviron 75mg/day week 7- Tren 225 mg, winstrol 100mg/ EOD, Halotestin 20mg/day, Proviron 75mg/day week 8- Tren 225 mg, winstrol 100mg/ EOD, Halotestin 20mg/day, Proviron 75mg/day, Arimidex 1 tab/day week 9- Tren 225 mg, winstrol 100mg/ EOD, Halotestin 20mg/day, Proviron 75mg/day, Arimidex 1 tab/day Diet begins 7 weeks out from competition. Sodium is not cut. GH is added through much of the cutting phase at a dose of 2IU per day. Injectible Lasix is added the last 3 days, at a dose of 1 ampule twice daily. Arimidex is taken the last 2 weeks, at a dose of 1 tablet per day. Dyazide is taken 1 tablet twice during the last day (competition). |
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im pretty sure that prop is a typo...???
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That was my thoughts too. Not my error. That's the way it's wrote in the book.
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why would you start the EQ at week 5 and cut it out at 8? get to see beneifits from it for like 5 days lol.
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I didn't understand that either? What would the benefit, if any be? I've got a few more examples of what they say pros take if anybody wants me to put them up I will.
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The prop is a typo in the book in 2005 version the same general cycle is there with prop as 100mg/day...here are My thoughts 1)the pro lied 2)he may have finished top 5 under 202 class in bangladesh...doesn't mean it was a major show or a somebody...of the 3 pros I know all compete 220-240 & all run/ran 3.5-5grams total when competing(orals included in that #)
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That's the problem with William Llewellyn's books: they're not peer reviewed and he is not a professional. From what I understand, he doesn't hold a degree of any sort. All his research is unregulated and not held to standards of any academic institution of any sort. Granted, he does cite referrences, but without peer review, they don't mean a whole hell of a lot.
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