what happened if stop using steroid/hormone after it help u to build what u desired??

[tombibby86]

hello everyone,1st i gotta say sorry for my english as im not english educated.i been on steroid for 3 cycle,and went on stage and won a state level champion back in my home.I'm 5"10 and weighing 195ibs during contest.what frustrated me is that when i off my gears,my body weight quickly rebound back fast(220ibs)i maintain the same diet and training exactly like how when i on the aas,and no matter how i increase my workout volume/cardio it seem quite useless...my abs is blur and a lot of water retention on my lower abs.do i really gonna use roid again to archieve what i desired?i just want to train natural,i wont mind that i shrunk a lil bit...the goal is to keep my bf as low as possible(10%-12%).i'll post some picture later so that to see if anyone can help to enlighten me.

 

[Iron Game]

Maintaining 10% - 12% at your bodyweight is possible but its not going to be as easy as if you were juicing. So we need to start at the top-

How long ago did you stop any steroids? Did you follow any PCT? Have you had your testosterone/estrogen levels checked recently? We have to start off by making sure your natural test levels have rebounded and then we can work on diet and training. Posting up pics would help

 

[tombibby86]

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3 pic on the bottom is how i look without steroid.and my last cycle is
Test e -250mg weekly (16wk)
parabolan-200mg weekly (14wk)
stanazolo- 50 ed till end of cycle
anavar- 50 ed till end of cycle
cytomel- 100mcg till end
clenbuterol- 80mcg 2wk on/off
nolvadex- 50mg eod
Pct:
nolvadex + proviron 2wk
arimidex + proviron 2wk
My blood test show everything is normal and okay just the free T4 level is on the lower side i wonder is that the reason that i rebounded?

 

[Presser]

Well your Asian so at least you got that going for you!! That was a compliment by the way

 

[cheeky]

Adjust your calories.
Maybe look into carb-cycling

Watch your sodium, potassium, and water-intake. Looks like youre holding a lot of water.

 

[drtbear1967]

Listen to these guys, they know what they are talking about.

 

[tombibby86]

Adjust your calories.
Maybe look into carb-cycling

Watch your sodium, potassium, and water-intake. Looks like youre holding a lot of water.

tq for the input..i will definitely try!


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[trtdoc]

Haha, presser cracks me up evertyime!

maintain same intensity in the gym and up macros to try and keep as much gains as possible. Not an easy feat

Dr B

 

[trekrider215]

Keep in mind for future, you DONT run proviron in a PCT.

 

[tombibby86]

Keep in mind for future, you DONT run proviron in a PCT.

no proviron?from what i read online/forum i thought most ppl do that.

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[Presser]

no proviron?from what i read online/forum i thought most ppl do that.

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Yes a lot of guys do brutha, so im sure you’ve read that many places. I have not , but thats because im still on my first cycle from 20 years ago lmao.

Maybe trekrider can chime in and give us his take, so I will refrain from interpreting his reasoning and let him do it!

 

[Stronger]

btw what about 3D shoulders guys? just imagine scenario... someone use steorids for long time (3-5 years), make some decent gains and build that boulder shoulders, which cant be build naturraly... than he just stop using gear and go off... he will probably lose most off his gains... but what about this boulder shoulders? will the shape/form of them stay permanently?