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I have to agree with Aesop in that you could probably get by with less, assuming that this is your second cycle. Your only 20 years old so there is no point in overdoing it. Westsider

I ran winny and var together once and it made me hard as a rock and extremely cut. If that is what you are trying to do and do not have a real high bodyfat to start with then I think that you will be very satisfied. Although everyone is different, I gained a considerable amount of strength on it...

B-boy, What is wrong with pulling sumo. That is a perfectly legitimate way to pull. Westsider

6'1", 225 lbs Bench: 435 Squat: 705 Deadlift: 665 Westsider

Sarcoplasm, When are you taking the igf: post workout, am, pm, etc? Westsider

I was wondering if anyone on here has seen a lab test on it or used it? Westsider

I love squats too. Of course I do them a little differently than most (train westside) but nothing beats the bar bent around your upper back with some heavy weight on there. Good luck KidRock. Westsider

If you read this article it will probably help you alot. Many of the problems that you are encountering in your training are adressed in this article. http://www.testosterone.net/articles/194dead.html Westsider

Doing the same exercise for more than 3 weeks at or above 90 % of your one rep max will only make you weaker. It sounds like you are maxing out on deadlifts all of the time when you should be doing reps and maybe alternating your exercises. I also disagree with anyone that tells you that you...

It sounds like you are shooting sub q. If that is the case you will probabaly get a little lump from the ba that the igf is suspended in. Try shooting IM and add a little bacteriostatic water if it is uncomfortable. Westsider

Thanks for the help. Westsider

The lumps under your skin are probably a reaction to the BA. It is normal (I am assuming that you are shooting sub q) and will eventually go away. Try shooting IM, such as in your bis or tris. You might like the results better and it will not leave any lumps. As for the stopper being hard I am...

A friend of mine came across some anavar that he was told was made by a company named Chinion out of Hungary. Anyone know anything about them? Westsider

It's there. It's called trenbolone acetate. Westsider

It's there. It's called trenbolone acetate. Westsider

koz215 posted the other info that I was going to put up but if I find any more I will put it up. Hope this helps everyone. Westsider

One more user's experience: Originally posted by napjy44 Ok here goes on the info... Dosage... 40mcg eod (basically every training day) Other gear.... None (for the first 1000mcg) Ht-5'9" Wt-202lbs BF% 13.4-14 (Calipers) Start date (4/5/03) Training Style- Usually 2on2off (1/2 body...

Here is some info from animal's board Here's a link to the pdf,complete with graphs and pics.It's about 4.5 megs,so just a heads up. http://seroudelab.biology.queensu.ca/pdf/musaro.pdf also the text, Localized Igf-1 transgene expression sustains hypertrophy and regeneration in senescent...

Another user: One more thought on IGF-1 Long-R. It cutting properties are truly amazing but I think it would be a waste of ammo to use it in a cutter. I think adding it to the last weeks of a bulking cycle is the way to best utilize it. In another post I've read, someone said it helps to...

More info from another user from another site: R3(long) IGF-1 1: Type- IGF-1 Long R3 (Anything else is not as effective, and if the person providing it for you doesn't know anything about it, you are asking for trouble.) 2. Storage- the most popular (and most effective) way to store...