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Yeah ive read to cut the dbol after first couple weeks but winny instead of deca for mass? I thought winny would be better for cutting.. I was also going to ask what test you'd recommend so that helps lol... The igf seems tempting!

Alright... Less than 2 weeks on my first cycle (cycle of prohormones) and I'm wanting to plan my next cycle ahead of time.. I want to do a cycle of deca, dbol, tren and test (I plan on cutting on my 8 weeks between cycles and want to put on a lot of mass with this cycle). I'd like to know what...

No real back pains besides regular stiffness at work and some back pumps. That makes sense though I'll keep it in mind

Yeah I've just been nom nom's on some pasta now it seems to be helping a good bit. Still not groggy through the day just the mornings, though

I trained chest and back yesterday. I usually do a 12,10,8,6,4 on reps for each work out with occasional max-10 rep sets/failure sets... but yesterday I did all 5 reps: Flat Bench Press, 7 sets of 5 reps Incline Press, 7 sets of 5 reps Dumbbell Flies, 7 sets of 5 reps Dumbbell Pullovers, 7 sets...

Look how happy Tom is!!!

Seems like they already get roid rage have you seen some of those kids haha

Lol sounds like you're probably a walking zombie hahaha

NY Giants! I'm not too big on football, though.. I'm all about hockey! NY Rangers

Lol, I honestly see weed being the big one here... I could kick some ass at video games when I was a lazy stoner in high school, helps you focus and keep steady. I have no clue why anabolics or growth hormones would even be considered.

I don't think people realize how many athletes are already doing it... It's silly to me when people say somebody like Dwight Howard blew up the way he did naturally from when he was in high school/college... I looked at the before/after picture once and immediately thought "juice." People see...

Only problem I see is the public's view. Juicing gets a bad rap to the public "non-juicers." Most people look at current day bodybuilders and just shake their heads... they don't think about how hard it is to get that big, they just see them using steroids and thinking THAT'S how it's done...

I'll try the carbs thing... I'm leaning towards that based on how I've been libido-wise. If that crashes.. then I'll cut off the AI

Just thought of something, though... wouldn't low estrogen possibly kill my libido? Since I've started this cycle I'm constantly horny like a fucking teenager and having no issues with ED or the like... actually quite the opposite

I'll give it a shot! thanks for the advice

Hmm.. well I take 4 caps a day, 200mg 4andro every day. For AI I'm doing .5mg every other day. Should I just cut out the AI?

That's what I figured it might be... I don't think I'll do the ephedrine thing.. If I can't handle it the cycle will just get cut short but I'm hoping it doesn't get too much worse. Just gonna make sure I get to bed at a decent hour

Brotha love! you might be right.... g/f says I snore terribly (occasionally she sleeps on the couch b/c of it haha).... seems like it started when I smoked and hasn't ever really gone away since I quit.

Right now I'm just on prohormones... alpha 1 max @ 40mg ED which converts to methyl1test... and 4 andro at 4 caps a day, running aquadex EOD and cycle support. During the day I have energy, for sure. but getting outta bed is a workout in itself for me.. maybe I'm not getting as much sleep as I...

LMAO I think he's safe hahah