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Interesting I also use primarily BI supps. Expensive but good quality. Did you use natural diuretics? Wondering if you buy your BI supps through BI or a third party. I saw a thread on another board that talked about a different source for BI products that was quite a bit less expensive but...

Great job You looked very good in these pics. What Division did you enter and how did you do in the show? Very impressive for your first show. Very good conditioning. I'd be interested in hearing what your last 10 days of prep looked like from a carb/water/nutritional standpoint. You...

Hey dps I thought that you had been abducted by aliens - good to see that they returned you.

Rad you look good in that 2nd pic Rad you look good in that second pic - but I thought that you were not going to see her anymore...

Welcome jstbecauz - If you have not tried the search function give it a whirl - you can find a lot of good info that way.

Ask Saks to guess You can ask SAKS to guess. He'll probably say 70-80, the lad has a problem with numbers...

Great effort Al Great effort Al! We need more "senior" members showing up the young crowd who have not taken the leap to compete! You gotta get some glare reduction cream for the dome - the bright light temporarily blinds the judges and then they might miss your awsome condition! ;)

100 and still going strong 100 and still going strong - must be the vitamins. Saks you don't look a pound over *** or a day over ***! Gosh I hope that the mods don't edit that out to keep you from getting your feelings hurt.

Not you footballcat I don't want you to guess... - lol I'm just wondering if other people hear this sort of thing.

Reading another recent thread made me remember that I thought it was cool when people were way off on guessing what my weight was as I got close to my last contest. Actually since I stay pretty lean all year long people usually guess that I weight more than I do. Its funny because I was kind...

Munkeee de Sade Munkeee de Sade - Sorry to hear of your families loss. The criminal and civil aspects of this can be related but can also be pursued separately. On the criminal side find out who the investigating officer was and who their boss is. POLITELY give them the names of the...

The Pack is back - they whooped Seattle and da Bears are still hurting from Monday. Did you see da Bears pull it off today in the final play with seconds to go? Great game for the home crowd. New Soldiers Field looks like some sort of Alien space craft landed on the sidelines.

Decent of the Panthers It sure was decent of the Panthers to win for Rad!

Happy Birthday Rad Happy Birthday Rad! Beautiful sunny day here on the east coast -get out and enjoy it - other than when you are watching the game of course...

Experimentation usman - You are sure correct about this being self-experimentation. That's what I like and hate about it - lol It is very interesting trying to figure it out but it also can trigger a lot of anxiety, especiallly as you do a contest run. It is nearly impossible to hold all of...

Interesting Mid is probably right that the average 200 lb bber is going to be eating more like 350-450g of protein, so that drops the extra carbs needed by this theory by another 150-250g. Skip is also right that you can take in a lot of carbs if your GI track can deal with it. That to me...

Water back in Gatorr - You may need to add some water back in an hour or so prefore you hit the stage for prejudging. Ask your coach about that aspect. Not sure how flat you will be without carb depletion, so with this plan you might not have to. For those who carb deplete - then drop water...

What about water intake? Ok Skip - In either example you use how do you play the water intake? Just keep it fairly high all the way through to keep everything flushed and your body thinking that it has more than enough? or do you still drop it to near zero the night before? I have actually...

I have seen a few threads in other boards that talk about people who have been able to come into a contest with the desired hard/dry/full look but who HAVE NOT played with their carbs/water/sodium the last week. Is there anyone here who has had success with basically just getting very lean and...

Interesting concept It will be interesting to see how this works for gatorr if this is his plan. Hopefully he will give us the details and tell us how it works for him. So would you or would you not do the normal carb-up/shitload water manipulation with this as it would not work the same...