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He's here right now....man, that's bizarre.

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LA is right, winny will keep you shut down and in essence make your clomid therapy null and void.

Post something...will ya'... Don't be such a lurker. I DO SEE YOU THERE!

WOW, didn't mean to spark or add to the controversy...BUT... >>>I have been training for close to 25 years, AND I STILL LIKE TO HIRE A TRAINER EVERY SO OFTEN. For anyone, (and that includes Ronnie, Jay, Arnold, whoever,) to think they have training down pat and that they can't learn anything...

man, that's dirt cheap!

Go, but sdefinitely watch your back.

MIND OVER MATTER! This is where you separate yourself from the masses bro. Most peopl get weak and accept it because it's normal.... get yourself in the mindset that you are going to push through the adversity and come out stronger for it!

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hmmm....to much time on someone's hands.

I like a prop/susp blend!

UR officially BI ...LMAO!

I will add that I've used winny at the end of a bulking cycle...only to make my fat ass feel a little tighter all around though, LOL. I do know guys that do that and swear to it, but IMO, I'd save the $$ and use when I really need it...during cutting and for contest prep.

Your abs are going away because you are taking in over 1,000 calories at one time, probably containing quite a bit of carbs...I'll guess 60g or so consisting of at least 50% sugars. That 70g of protein is getting wasted in one meal IMO. You can cut back on the portion size of that shake to...

I'd like to see Napalm drop in again myself!

welcome new guy!

I'll give you my .02... -skip the 1AD and save your money for: -Buy lots of protein, creatine and glutamine -Hire a personal trainer

I hate delts! Actually I really hate mine right now...can't even train right because of the bastards...rotator cuff tears.

I think you'll do ok on that cycle as is...but it defintely could be improved upon. LIke you've heard, adding prop would further protect you from the catabolic response to all that cardio and dieting. If you don't add a test, at least up the winny to 50ED. One other item that might help with...

I think you'll like bicep shots. The first 2 or 3 times you'll probably get sore like with any muscle you hit for the first time. After that, it's pretty easy.