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Fraid not. Vander's the real deal and has a big future I'd say. I'm about his age and it goes to show what busting your guts and dedication can get you. IronMike
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To each their own obviously and if it works for ya it works, but I've given away loading the last few times I've used it and just gone something like straight 20-30g all the way through. Ever tried that?
I did find results could be improved depending on when I took it, never found much...
I've heard stories of long-term novla use (say 3 months) having some effect on existing gyno, but I've never read or seen anything to prove it really. Worth a shot perhaps? IronMike
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