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Tonykemp, you might be suprised how little weights speed skaters do. My wife is a former skater and one of my best friends is a skater now. They do lots of sprinting on bikes but they are only in the weightroom 2 times a week. During the off season they shrink big time. They just have a large...

There are both still undetectable. How do I know? Cause I have been tested 3 times while using GH and 1 time while using IGF-1. They say then can test for GH but there is no reliable baseline for the test, or so I was told. About the lab, yes there is one in the US that will test you but It will...

Great info, just what I was looking for thanks

lol sorry about that :D

Hey Hongkongguy, I have been trying to pm you for a while. Clean out ur pm box, it is full :)

Thanks again cannons. I had to read that about 5 times to get an complete understanding of it.

Thanks Cannon for the reply. Does anyone know if IGF-1 acts on tendons and connective tissue like GH does?

Just a question to anyone that has used both. Which one do you feel worked the best and why? I am a power athlete and want something for my tendons. Thanks.

With GH I can tell you what happens when you take to much. I "heard" that you will get pain in your wrists and you will lose grip strength. As for recovery, I "heard" it takes three weeks or so to really notice anything. I also "heard" that you can feel your muscle getting dense. Hope that helps.

Thanks bros

Ok thanks for the info guys. I won't be in Bankok and I am not going back to North America after. I am living in an Asian country with almost no customs. It would be easy to bring stuff back with me, hypothetically speaking

Hey guys, I am going to Thailand for 2 weeks. Hypothetically if I wanted to buy some gear, what is available over the counter there? Any have any "friends" that have personal experience? Thanks

I am with tonykemp, YAMAHA12, and sundevil. I thought living in Japan would change it but it only made it worse. :D

oh ok I understand

Hey you guys just got Pride fighting this weekend? I saw it live here in Japan on the 15th. I thought you guys could see it live.

I had a "friend" that used a bit of it when he was running T&F. It was from Japan if I do remember correctly. It was very similar to stanazolol as far as body reaction. No real side effects because of the amount that was used. Sprinters don't usually use large amount, by bodybuilder standards. I...

The same thing happened to me but I was using only 1.5cc per glute. I thought it was going to cripple me :). I switched to prop and all was fine.