8 weeks out... to add, or not to add, that's my question

[LeatherHead]

I'm 8 weeks out right now. On prop and tren ace, MC igf, and just started aquaburn/cytoburn... I have a bottle of Mast enth. would it help at this point? Being that it's not ace, I didn't know if it would help or not, this close.

 

[Masher59]

What mg is it? I would add it in for the next 4 weeks then pull it.

 

[justice14]

I agree with Masher. I always run Mast at the end


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[Presser]

I'm 8 weeks out right now. On prop and tren ace, MC igf, and just started aquaburn/cytoburn... I have a bottle of Mast enth. would it help at this point? Being that it's not ace, I didn't know if it would help or not, this close.

whats your last week look like if u dont mind my asking? More so i was just curious if you were running the tren acetate straight through the show and how far out your dropping the propionate and igf?

and for anyone curious of my question, i always dropped the igf-1 lr3 and propionate 8-10 days out while running trenbolone acetate straight through the show timing it so i took a small shot of tren morning of the show and would inject tren around 4am then go back to bed for another hour or two and then hit my meal upon waking

so im curious of your last week prep with these hormones , and also how your doing the water / carb depletes and loads etc...

A million ways to skin a cat, most of which kill the animal! So im curious.

Also curious if you stuck to one plan from one person, or if you tried pulling a little bit from here and little fromt here, which i think the ladder is a very bad idea, so whats ur coach say about the masterone enanthate?

Lastly, your going to do great man, not many people have the discipline to compete, big difference between being the biggest guy in thge gym and standing on stage competing after a grueling diet and 12 or so week show prep.

You have my respect brutha, as does masher and justice!!

 

[LeatherHead]

What mg is it? I would add it in for the next 4 weeks then pull it.

I'll double check tonight, but I'll do as you suggest. This is my first show, and I'm a total Boot when it gets to this point. I'm beach ready, but I'm not stage ready, just yet.

whats your last week look like if u dont mind my asking? More so i was just curious if you were running the tren acetate straight through the show and how far out your dropping the propionate and igf?

and for anyone curious of my question, i always dropped the igf-1 lr3 and propionate 8-10 days out while running trenbolone acetate straight through the show timing it so i took a small shot of tren morning of the show and would inject tren around 4am then go back to bed for another hour or two and then hit my meal upon waking

so im curious of your last week prep with these hormones , and also how your doing the water / carb depletes and loads etc...

A million ways to skin a cat, most of which kill the animal! So im curious.

Also curious if you stuck to one plan from one person, or if you tried pulling a little bit from here and little fromt here, which i think the ladder is a very bad idea, so whats ur coach say about the masterone enanthate?

Lastly, your going to do great man, not many people have the discipline to compete, big difference between being the biggest guy in the gym and standing on stage competing after a grueling diet and 12 or so week show prep.

You have my respect brutha, as does masher and justice!![\QUOTE]

First of all, thank you, Presser... means a shit ton coming from you. (That's a good thing)

I'm going to cut prop and igf 10 days out, run tren the whole way through, as long as I have enough.
My coach is doing great, but I feel when it comes to gear, he's not up to speed on everything, as we've discussed previously. I'm following what my coach says, but tweaking a few things that I know will benefit me, and make me finish better. He's got a girl going to the O for the second time this year, and he's got a handful of other clients that he's helped get pro cards. So he knows some shit, but just not everything. When I asked him if he's ok with my adding IGF, he didn't know anything about it. I had to tell him that keeping me on a cruise cycle of cyp is not a good idea, if anything I need to be on prop, and not a cruise cycle of 300mg a week. That's why I'm relying on my MC family to help a brother out. This is my first show, and I want to kick ass. I have people flying in from out of state to see my compete, so it's important that I have a good showing. Plus I'm a fucking fight or die kind of guy, so I want to win 1st place in everything I do in life. That's just me.
Food and water is still plenty right now, eating 7 times a day, and drinking about 2 gallons of water a day. The food portions have started to dwindle, though. Now I'm eating 8oz of protein (turkey/chicken/fish) and 1/4 cup of carbs (brown rice/whole wheat pasta) for 5 of my meals, with 1 apple or banana throughout the day. 1 whey shake for breakfast, and a casein shake at bedtime. No dairy, no sugar.
Workouts a 5 days a week, one body part per day, except for chest/shoulder day. Those who have seen my pics know my shoulders are my strong suit, so he wants me to just hit them with chest because I don't need to do much of anything to them. I have back day, quads day, arms day, chest/shoulder day, and hamstrings/calves day. Cardio 60 mins fasted in the morning, and 60 mins post workout. Many of my workouts, or part of them, are on my instagram.
I'm competing in light-heavyweight and classic physique. He asked if I wanted to do physique with the board shorts, and I said I'm working way to hard on my legs to cover them up. lol Current weight is 209 and I have to be down to 198 by show time. I think I can do that in 8 weeks.

 

[Presser]

I'll double check tonight, but I'll do as you suggest. This is my first show, and I'm a total Boot when it gets to this point. I'm beach ready, but I'm not stage ready, just yet.

whats your last week look like if u dont mind my asking? More so i was just curious if you were running the tren acetate straight through the show and how far out your dropping the propionate and igf?

and for anyone curious of my question, i always dropped the igf-1 lr3 and propionate 8-10 days out while running trenbolone acetate straight through the show timing it so i took a small shot of tren morning of the show and would inject tren around 4am then go back to bed for another hour or two and then hit my meal upon waking

so im curious of your last week prep with these hormones , and also how your doing the water / carb depletes and loads etc...

A million ways to skin a cat, most of which kill the animal! So im curious.

Also curious if you stuck to one plan from one person, or if you tried pulling a little bit from here and little fromt here, which i think the ladder is a very bad idea, so whats ur coach say about the masterone enanthate?

Lastly, your going to do great man, not many people have the discipline to compete, big difference between being the biggest guy in the gym and standing on stage competing after a grueling diet and 12 or so week show prep.

You have my respect brutha, as does masher and justice!![\QUOTE]

First of all, thank you, Presser... means a shit ton coming from you. (That's a good thing)

I'm going to cut prop and igf 10 days out, run tren the whole way through, as long as I have enough.
My coach is doing great, but I feel when it comes to gear, he's not up to speed on everything, as we've discussed previously. I'm following what my coach says, but tweaking a few things that I know will benefit me, and make me finish better. He's got a girl going to the O for the second time this year, and he's got a handful of other clients that he's helped get pro cards. So he knows some shit, but just not everything. When I asked him if he's ok with my adding IGF, he didn't know anything about it. I had to tell him that keeping me on a cruise cycle of cyp is not a good idea, if anything I need to be on prop, and not a cruise cycle of 300mg a week. That's why I'm relying on my MC family to help a brother out. This is my first show, and I want to kick ass. I have people flying in from out of state to see my compete, so it's important that I have a good showing. Plus I'm a fucking fight or die kind of guy, so I want to win 1st place in everything I do in life. That's just me.
Food and water is still plenty right now, eating 7 times a day, and drinking about 2 gallons of water a day. The food portions have started to dwindle, though. Now I'm eating 8oz of protein (turkey/chicken/fish) and 1/4 cup of carbs (brown rice/whole wheat pasta) for 5 of my meals, with 1 apple or banana throughout the day. 1 whey shake for breakfast, and a casein shake at bedtime. No dairy, no sugar.
Workouts a 5 days a week, one body part per day, except for chest/shoulder day. Those who have seen my pics know my shoulders are my strong suit, so he wants me to just hit them with chest because I don't need to do much of anything to them. I have back day, quads day, arms day, chest/shoulder day, and hamstrings/calves day. Cardio 60 mins fasted in the morning, and 60 mins post workout. Many of my workouts, or part of them, are on my instagram.
I'm competing in light-heavyweight and classic physique. He asked if I wanted to do physique with the board shorts, and I said I'm working way to hard on my legs to cover them up. lol Current weight is 209 and I have to be down to 198 by show time. I think I can do that in 8 weeks.

i know that first show feeling when you know you have a ton of people there to see you , and making sure your spot on ripped and I personally over did it and lost some muscle , so be careful not to fall into that trap , aside from that , I have nothing to offer that I'm sure you don't already know lol just smile a lot on stage and have fun backstage, oh and never leave your posing oil or anything unattended lol my wife's posing oils walked off by itself lol people are people I guess but overall your going to love it man, I'm actually excited for you man!!!

 

[Iron Game]

I'll double check tonight, but I'll do as you suggest. This is my first show, and I'm a total Boot when it gets to this point. I'm beach ready, but I'm not stage ready, just yet.

whats your last week look like if u dont mind my asking? More so i was just curious if you were running the tren acetate straight through the show and how far out your dropping the propionate and igf?

and for anyone curious of my question, i always dropped the igf-1 lr3 and propionate 8-10 days out while running trenbolone acetate straight through the show timing it so i took a small shot of tren morning of the show and would inject tren around 4am then go back to bed for another hour or two and then hit my meal upon waking

so im curious of your last week prep with these hormones , and also how your doing the water / carb depletes and loads etc...

A million ways to skin a cat, most of which kill the animal! So im curious.

Also curious if you stuck to one plan from one person, or if you tried pulling a little bit from here and little fromt here, which i think the ladder is a very bad idea, so whats ur coach say about the masterone enanthate?

Lastly, your going to do great man, not many people have the discipline to compete, big difference between being the biggest guy in the gym and standing on stage competing after a grueling diet and 12 or so week show prep.

You have my respect brutha, as does masher and justice!![\QUOTE]

First of all, thank you, Presser... means a shit ton coming from you. (That's a good thing)

I'm going to cut prop and igf 10 days out, run tren the whole way through, as long as I have enough.
My coach is doing great, but I feel when it comes to gear, he's not up to speed on everything, as we've discussed previously. I'm following what my coach says, but tweaking a few things that I know will benefit me, and make me finish better. He's got a girl going to the O for the second time this year, and he's got a handful of other clients that he's helped get pro cards. So he knows some shit, but just not everything. When I asked him if he's ok with my adding IGF, he didn't know anything about it. I had to tell him that keeping me on a cruise cycle of cyp is not a good idea, if anything I need to be on prop, and not a cruise cycle of 300mg a week. That's why I'm relying on my MC family to help a brother out. This is my first show, and I want to kick ass. I have people flying in from out of state to see my compete, so it's important that I have a good showing. Plus I'm a fucking fight or die kind of guy, so I want to win 1st place in everything I do in life. That's just me.
Food and water is still plenty right now, eating 7 times a day, and drinking about 2 gallons of water a day. The food portions have started to dwindle, though. Now I'm eating 8oz of protein (turkey/chicken/fish) and 1/4 cup of carbs (brown rice/whole wheat pasta) for 5 of my meals, with 1 apple or banana throughout the day. 1 whey shake for breakfast, and a casein shake at bedtime. No dairy, no sugar.
Workouts a 5 days a week, one body part per day, except for chest/shoulder day. Those who have seen my pics know my shoulders are my strong suit, so he wants me to just hit them with chest because I don't need to do much of anything to them. I have back day, quads day, arms day, chest/shoulder day, and hamstrings/calves day. Cardio 60 mins fasted in the morning, and 60 mins post workout. Many of my workouts, or part of them, are on my instagram.
I'm competing in light-heavyweight and classic physique. He asked if I wanted to do physique with the board shorts, and I said I'm working way to hard on my legs to cover them up. lol Current weight is 209 and I have to be down to 198 by show time. I think I can do that in 8 weeks.

Do or die! Only way to be. Your going to do great brutha. I am still hoping to make it.

 

[Masher59]

I run my tren a, test p and mast prop oils through the show morning. Also Winny, Var and the last week 60mg Halo per day to get super hard. T3 and clen also for fine tuning. So many coaches say stop the oils but I did it twice last year and I didn't like it at all so I do my own thing with it now. I've never had injection site issues so I just keep on pinning. Also when I carb back up it doesn't take me much work to pump up back stage, I don't need bands or anything I can just hit my poses and pump right up. Without the gear I had to work my ass off to get pumped up.

4 weeks out and my food is. cream of wheat and chicken, salmon asparagus potatoes, tilapia asparagus half avocado, chicken asparagus, chicken green beans, chicken green beans. Rested fasted cardio at wake up then I get some carbs from the cream of wheat, second meal a few more carbs from the potatoes then none the rest of the day.

Just keep grinding man it will all come together. Listen to your coach and trust his process unless his process doesn't work for you then keep them and tweak it or dump him for someone else. This is later down the line of course. Do a national show, I've learned more at national shows then I have anywhere else. Chat up other competitors and take the pieces they give you and build your picture that suits you.

Thanks Presser hopefully the third time is the charm big guy!

 

[LeatherHead]

What mg is it? I would add it in for the next 4 weeks then pull it.

300mg

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[justice14]

I'll double check tonight, but I'll do as you suggest. This is my first show, and I'm a total Boot when it gets to this point. I'm beach ready, but I'm not stage ready, just yet.

whats your last week look like if u dont mind my asking? More so i was just curious if you were running the tren acetate straight through the show and how far out your dropping the propionate and igf?

and for anyone curious of my question, i always dropped the igf-1 lr3 and propionate 8-10 days out while running trenbolone acetate straight through the show timing it so i took a small shot of tren morning of the show and would inject tren around 4am then go back to bed for another hour or two and then hit my meal upon waking

so im curious of your last week prep with these hormones , and also how your doing the water / carb depletes and loads etc...

A million ways to skin a cat, most of which kill the animal! So im curious.

Also curious if you stuck to one plan from one person, or if you tried pulling a little bit from here and little fromt here, which i think the ladder is a very bad idea, so whats ur coach say about the masterone enanthate?

Lastly, your going to do great man, not many people have the discipline to compete, big difference between being the biggest guy in the gym and standing on stage competing after a grueling diet and 12 or so week show prep.

You have my respect brutha, as does masher and justice!![\QUOTE]

First of all, thank you, Presser... means a shit ton coming from you. (That's a good thing)

I'm going to cut prop and igf 10 days out, run tren the whole way through, as long as I have enough.
My coach is doing great, but I feel when it comes to gear, he's not up to speed on everything, as we've discussed previously. I'm following what my coach says, but tweaking a few things that I know will benefit me, and make me finish better. He's got a girl going to the O for the second time this year, and he's got a handful of other clients that he's helped get pro cards. So he knows some shit, but just not everything. When I asked him if he's ok with my adding IGF, he didn't know anything about it. I had to tell him that keeping me on a cruise cycle of cyp is not a good idea, if anything I need to be on prop, and not a cruise cycle of 300mg a week. That's why I'm relying on my MC family to help a brother out. This is my first show, and I want to kick ass. I have people flying in from out of state to see my compete, so it's important that I have a good showing. Plus I'm a fucking fight or die kind of guy, so I want to win 1st place in everything I do in life. That's just me.
Food and water is still plenty right now, eating 7 times a day, and drinking about 2 gallons of water a day. The food portions have started to dwindle, though. Now I'm eating 8oz of protein (turkey/chicken/fish) and 1/4 cup of carbs (brown rice/whole wheat pasta) for 5 of my meals, with 1 apple or banana throughout the day. 1 whey shake for breakfast, and a casein shake at bedtime. No dairy, no sugar.
Workouts a 5 days a week, one body part per day, except for chest/shoulder day. Those who have seen my pics know my shoulders are my strong suit, so he wants me to just hit them with chest because I don't need to do much of anything to them. I have back day, quads day, arms day, chest/shoulder day, and hamstrings/calves day. Cardio 60 mins fasted in the morning, and 60 mins post workout. Many of my workouts, or part of them, are on my instagram.
I'm competing in light-heavyweight and classic physique. He asked if I wanted to do physique with the board shorts, and I said I'm working way to hard on my legs to cover them up. lol Current weight is 209 and I have to be down to 198 by show time. I think I can do that in 8 weeks.

That's a solid diet. If you don't see the gains you need to see, try dropping one of your late carb servings to speed up the weight loss. Your going to kill it. Keep us updated.


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[Masher59]

I'll double check tonight, but I'll do as you suggest. This is my first show, and I'm a total Boot when it gets to this point. I'm beach ready, but I'm not stage ready, just yet.



That's a solid diet. If you don't see the gains you need to see, try dropping one of your late carb servings to speed up the weight loss. Your going to kill it. Keep us updated.


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Agreed, that's what I was trying to show him with my diet. Rested fasted cardio then a few maintenance carbs your first two meals then none until after rested fasted cardio again the following day. Peel you down fast.