Lean Bulker: Sust, Tren, Eq, Primo...

[doctorwill]

I am planning on running a new cycle that I want to be a lean bulker. I hate gaining 20 pounds, not fiting in any of my clothes and then losing 10 pounds of fat and water later. It freaks out my wife when I bulk up that fast.

Stats: 39, 5'8", 184, about 15% bf?? Several cycles under my belt(hypothetically).

Weeks 1-4: 200mg/wk of Tren Enth
Weeks 5-12: 300 mg/wk of Deca
Weeks 1-12: 500 mg Sust
weeks 1-12: 400 mg eq
Weeks 1-12: 500 mg Primo
Weeks 1-12: 25 mg Proviron ed

I have slightly eleveated BP, so I want to keep the EQ low throughout and I don't want to run the Tren that long. I mix all the oils and inject on M/W/F

Here are my questions: Am I running enough Tren to see anything from this, or is that dosage OK since it is stacked with the others? I have basically lowered my usual dosage of Sust, and EQ and added Primo. IS the Sust too low (had been running a gram but got too much acne)?

Diet will be about 340 grams of protein (about half from shakes), but I will add more if I can cram it in. I am eating as many veggies, EFAs as I can eat. I usually get in a bit below 4000 calories when bulking, but am open to suggestions.

I will probably toss in a D-bol (45 mg) before my workouts when I start to not have any more gains (so 4 per day, no more than a few weeks in the entire cycle). I am pretty fond of having a liver and want to keep the orals low.

 

[MMX2]

you are at 15% now- you really need to review your diet first- doesn't sound like you have that set. Also you need to consider cutting the dbol out and sust- lots of water retention there and no sign of femara in your mix. Also Cut the deca and primo- you are adding way too much to juggle here- cutting and having a defined diet plan should be priority at 15%.
Are you on meds now for your HBP?
Reconsider a simple tren/prop/ and possibly EQ cycle along with some femara but take your HBP into consideration. Tren may cause that to go up some(at least for some people).
No dbol here.

 

[da_Fonz]

gotta bump MMX2, or even a tren/winny/prop cycle but I would get that diet taken care of b/c at that bf% your not gonna get the gains ya want.

 

[doctorwill]

MMX -

My PB is about 135 over 90 on cycle, up about 20 on the systolic from where it was four years ago. Now, that is concidered borderline; I am not currently on meds for this and I dunno if my doc would put me on at this rate. I have increased my EFAs (which are SUPPOSED to help a bit for BP and lipid profiles) and am taking coenxyme Q10. I am also eating leaner again, which should help.

I should have added that the first two weeks of this will include Clen and T3 and I will be dieting. I can usually drop 8-10 pounds in two weeks of gradually increasing Clen dosages until it stops working. I have started or ended with this type of thing before and I found it works OK. However the rest of the cycle should be a lean bulker.

If I don't use a lot of test, the only anti-e that I use is proviron, and I don't get sides, though I do have femera and other anti-e's if I need them. I know proviron is a weak anti-e, but it does the trick for me.

I do see what you mean about not taking the D-bols. I have used these to pump up gains when I start to stall (it gives me more of a psychological boost), so those alone might be causing a problem with my BP. Don't know why that never clicked with me since I know almost all of the gains are going to be pissed away after I stop. Sust, I thought, was easier than most test on water retention. I know that adding deca (and sometimes Masteron) along with EQ can help reduce the tendancy for EQ to screw with your BP.

I don't really want to buy any new stuff given the amount of stuff that I have on hand.