doctorwill
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From what I have read, Masteron, Winnie, Proviron, and Primo have only a modest impact on endogenous testosterone production, and that PST generally isn't required. Indeed, Proviron is often used for regular folks who have a low test level.
I am considering running four back-to-back 10 week cycles (hypothetically, of course), alternating between bulking and cutting, with PST done after the bulking cycle and the cutting cycle done with gear that shouldn't shut me down.
Stats: I am 39, 5'8", 175, about 10% bf (I am guessing here). Used gear, HGH and Slin three times before. I am a hard gainer.
Bulking:
Week 1-3: Dbol eod (on workout days basically) 45 mg
Week 1-10: Sust 750 mg/wk
Week 1-10: Eq 400 mg/wk
Week 1-10: Deca 300 mg/wk
Week 1-10: Nova 20mg eod
Clean diet, lots of fresh fruits/veggies, grilled chicken, shakes. I add about 1000 cals a week when bulking.
PST:
Week 1: Clomid 100 mg ed; HCG 500 iu ed; nova 20 mg ed
Week 2: Clomid 50 mg ed; nova 20mg ed
This would be done during weeks 3 and four of the cutting cycle. I have nova on hand if needed.
Cutting (and also just maintain)
Week 1-10: 480 mg Masteron (Drostanolone di-propionate)
Week 1-3: 50 mg oral winnie eod (on workout days)
Week 4-7 50 mg oral Masteron ed (methyldehydrotestasterone)
Week 1-10: Proviron 25 mg ed
I will add T3 and Clen if I need to do some real cutting.
Here are my questions:
1) Can I go from one directly to another since the cutting cycle, I believe, will not shut me down? Then again, I know a guy who is younger than I and his doc prescribed him weekly test injections to aid with weight loss/muscle gain and I can't see how this is any different.
2) Would I get better results just going with bulking cycles and then taking time off?
3) I really don't have much to cut, so how effective might the cutting cycle be in terms of adding strength with a diet that was only a bit less than the bulking cycle? (My previous experience was that it helps some with strength but does squat for size or weight).
4) Should I change the mix of orals to be more gentle on my liver?
Thankys guys!
I am considering running four back-to-back 10 week cycles (hypothetically, of course), alternating between bulking and cutting, with PST done after the bulking cycle and the cutting cycle done with gear that shouldn't shut me down.
Stats: I am 39, 5'8", 175, about 10% bf (I am guessing here). Used gear, HGH and Slin three times before. I am a hard gainer.
Bulking:
Week 1-3: Dbol eod (on workout days basically) 45 mg
Week 1-10: Sust 750 mg/wk
Week 1-10: Eq 400 mg/wk
Week 1-10: Deca 300 mg/wk
Week 1-10: Nova 20mg eod
Clean diet, lots of fresh fruits/veggies, grilled chicken, shakes. I add about 1000 cals a week when bulking.
PST:
Week 1: Clomid 100 mg ed; HCG 500 iu ed; nova 20 mg ed
Week 2: Clomid 50 mg ed; nova 20mg ed
This would be done during weeks 3 and four of the cutting cycle. I have nova on hand if needed.
Cutting (and also just maintain)
Week 1-10: 480 mg Masteron (Drostanolone di-propionate)
Week 1-3: 50 mg oral winnie eod (on workout days)
Week 4-7 50 mg oral Masteron ed (methyldehydrotestasterone)
Week 1-10: Proviron 25 mg ed
I will add T3 and Clen if I need to do some real cutting.
Here are my questions:
1) Can I go from one directly to another since the cutting cycle, I believe, will not shut me down? Then again, I know a guy who is younger than I and his doc prescribed him weekly test injections to aid with weight loss/muscle gain and I can't see how this is any different.
2) Would I get better results just going with bulking cycles and then taking time off?
3) I really don't have much to cut, so how effective might the cutting cycle be in terms of adding strength with a diet that was only a bit less than the bulking cycle? (My previous experience was that it helps some with strength but does squat for size or weight).
4) Should I change the mix of orals to be more gentle on my liver?
Thankys guys!
