R U Lifting right???

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learner202

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Despite the overwhelming proof to the contrary, some would still have you believe that intensity is all about the weight you can lift. This is a total myth that has haunted our sport for years. You have to lift big to get big. I can't hear that anymore without wanting to throw up. I'm sorry, but I guarantee you that there are thousands of bodybuilders out there who are the living proof of the opposite. Even the great Arnold, who was known for his extremely heavy approaches to bodybuilding, held back on some exercises. He did only 60-pound flyes. I can do 80. So we all know he could do more, but the 60's allowed him to do his flyes deep and strict giving him what is probably still the best and most developed outer chest this world has seen. I myself can only bench 315, considered very weak by most standards, but I am fully convinced that had it only been 250, I'd still be this big. While I hold it in high regard that you have to keep pushing the envelope where strength is concerned, we aren't power-lifters. If we were we'd be fat unsymmetrical bastards. Our fair sport is the evolution out of power-lifting. Using the density that weight can give us and perfect it with other means of intensity that bring out the qualities muscles have to offer. These aren't my sentiments, that's an adapted quote of Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman himself. I'm here to instruct you in other means of increasing the intensity. I assure you your choice will not be limited. After all, the muscle only knows what it feels, it can't read the numbers on the plates.



Ronnie Coleman Lifts With Intensity
Fast or Slow Reps

By controlling the speed of the motion as you perform an exercise you can place new strain on a muscle. A super-slow set will take the maximum contraction point at every angle to new extremes, not only providing extra-gravitational resistance, but carving new striations in your dense muscle tissue. By increasing the speed you are forcing the muscles to lift more weight, technically. The speed factor requires more energy and will give the set a heavier feel. Many pros are known for their faster reps, and it is commonly believed that a truly talented athlete will develop a faster stroke as he matures. This should be the result of increasing strength without adding too much strenuous resistance as is common among power-lifters. So experiment with the rep-speed and explore the benefits of these very hard systems.

Decrease rest between sets

While you shouldn't attempt to lift the same weight if your muscle hasn't recovered adequately, all too often we take prolonged rest-times between sets because we feel flushed, fatigued or out of breath. But odds are the muscle will have recovered much sooner, making all this extra time a total waste. I usually keep 45 seconds between sets, but when in a mass or contest-prep phase I will cut that time to 20 seconds. That's all I need, so that's all I use. This maintains the pump much longer and thus stimulating more growth. Because of the pump it also increases the perceived intensity as your workout progresses, making the last sets extremely hard.

Training partners

As far as motivation goes, training partners are as good as it gets. If you aim to keep intensity high, nothing gets the job done as a bellowing maniac screaming insults in your ear as you crank out your last reps. Nothing is as satisfying as being able to squeeze out more reps, knowing that you are safe with someone to aid you. All factors that contribute to more intensity and more growth. The one catch is that you'll have to find someone to meet these characteristics, because if he'll be chatting up chicks as you get crushed beneath a barbell, I assure you your intensity will falter immensely in the coming weeks. When looking for a training partner, look for the biggest sadist you can find. Someone who will gladly move the pin up the rack when you're not looking or not let you stop until you break your old record. Someone who likes to see your suffer and doesn't mind that you make him suffer. No mercy between two iron brothers, remember that. Nothing short of an injury should interfere with your training sessions. So be on the lookout for someone who will always be there for you. If he makes you wait instead of weight, and is unreliable, ditch him. You'll progress better on your own.

HIT-workouts

This is the only good thing you'll ever hear me say about HIT. Whilst I abhor advocates of this style of training as a given, I don't deny it's a useful tool for anyone. Sometimes over-training does set in, or you are just having a bad day. Such things will screw with your concentration. When that happens it may be smarter to focus on cranking out a few very intense sets, with weight-drops, negatives, spotters, the works. Even if just for ten minutes. It's always better than not training, and in some cases a true lifesaver. These workouts will give you more time to recover as you prepare for your next big session. I would never suggest making constant use of this, but once in a while, especially in times of low recovery or a depressive mood, or even because you feel to lazy to concentrate on a long session of intense work, doing a bit of HIT may be best.

Forced Reps

Common practice among all genuine trainers, forced reps are one of the best ways to see if someone is serious about working out. When you are near the end of a set, and can't push any harder no matter what you try, a spotter jumps in and helps you gently to squeeze out a few more. The spotter gives you a very gentle lift that provides more of a mental boost than actual help. This way you can really stimulate all fiber in a muscle to total collapse.

Super-setting within a body-part

There are two fashions of super-setting that are often used in the sport of bodybuilding. They differ only in the fact that one combines two exercises within a body-part and that the other combines two exercises of different body-parts. By performing two exercises within the same body-part you can hit a muscle from two different angles without rest, so as to hit them completely as one muscle. This kind of stimulation assures a more complete "flowing" kind of physique. You can superset any two exercises basically, but generally it is more of application when referring to pre-exhaust supersets, which require you train the more isolative exercise first. But one of the most popular generic superset setups is when you hit different heads of a muscle:

Shoulders: Front Raises with Side Laterals
Biceps: Preacher Curls with Hammer Curls
Triceps: Pushdowns and reverse pushdowns

Tri-sets

The logical result of super-setting is tri-setting, and thus combining three exercises in a cycle. This is often used when training back, when you can really hit the fiber by starting off with dumbbell rows on the incline bench, then quickly moving on to 1-arm rows and finishing off with barbell or seated cable rows. This kind of exercise combinations will have your muscles screaming in agony. I don't really advise you use it on smaller muscles like biceps or triceps, as this could potentially lead to injury. The intensity of a correctly performed Tri-set is not to be underestimated.

Giant Sets

I'm not going to go into it, as this is no longer a commonly practiced form of weight training. Not many people have the concentration to do four or more consecutive exercises for a single body-part. Most body-parts don't really lend themselves to this anyway. Again, back is the only muscle that was normally trained in this fashion. Some people who believe that you should train 3 or more body-parts in a workout which is total insanity. Usually HIT-advocates, but some just plain idiots who don't understand the principle of concentration. In HIT this has its uses because you would only have two or three workouts. And super-setting 2 exercises for 4 different muscle-groups to form an 8-tier giant set is sometimes a lifesaver to keep time short and intensity high and doing it this way will leave you breathless. But the other kind are obviously morons, suggesting you do 12 or more sets for a giant set and then repeat it three times. Not even the most extreme of high-set advocates would tell you to do 36 sets for a workout. This way you'll get good stimulation of the first muscle on the first giant set, but that is all, You will derive little or no benefit from this and yet there are some high-acclaimed magazines that publish this kind of routines...
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Lovely...personally I think the more weight you can lift the bigger your muscles get, "You have to lift big to get big" this guy talk about Arnold....great. Arnold isn't most people, I know however that most bodybuilders, Ronnie, Dorian, Nassar, Gunnter are EXTREMELY strong is this just a coincidence? would they be just as big if they benched 250? NO! IMO
 
I agree, I think to a certain extent though it depends on the person. I like to lift very heavy on chest, back, arms, legs... Calves not so much.
 
Sergio never lifted squat and he what, won the O twice?

I still think different strokes for different folks and finding the key to your ongoing development is what makes this sport so damn interesting!
 
learner202 said:
While I hold it in high regard that you have to keep pushing the envelope where strength is concerned, we aren't power-lifters. If we were we'd be fat unsymmetrical bastards.

ROFLOL! I just love this quote. I'm certainly neither fat nor unsymmetrical. The author obviously doesn't know the difference between proportionalism and symmetry. And as soon as I hit an 830-850 deadlift in a sanctioned meet (next year), I'll be in the top-10 242# pullers of all-time. I'd give this clown 10,000-1 odds that my back and wheels annihilate his. :rolleyes:

err, or that his beats mine... or whatever. You get the idea. I'm not a Vegas high roller or anything like that, LOL!
 
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I believe there is a happy medium to this argument here. However, Learner202, I suspect that there is quite a big difference between being able to bench 250 and being able to bench 315, and likewise the muscle that would accompany those lifts. If you look at someone who is able to bench 405, and someone who can only put up 315, chances are there will be a difference not only in strength, but also size. Not all the time, but usually, the two work in tandem with each other. I, too, believe in the lift big to get big theory. That approach simply runs parallel to logic.
 
Seen the video of Goldenear pulling-don't look fat to me-just like a PHREAK!!-while the goal of a BBer isn't that he lift more and raise PB's often and few of us warm up and do a 1 rep max and then gear our training towards increase,we do try to always increase weight on the bar or reps performed-have yet to meet the competitor who isn't trying to lift more,more often
 
Powerlifters make good bber's after they loose the weight-I am not as convinced about Olympic though-so much reliance on speed makes for some things to under develop.IMO
 
While I hold it in high regard that you have to keep pushing the envelope where strength is concerned, we aren't power-lifters. If we were we'd be fat unsymmetrical bastards.


WOOOOW!!!! Ronnie's won the O like a bazillion times now, and he's stronger than most powerlifters out there hands down.

And you can tell the bodybuilders who overall don't go as heavy or rely on machines to build their bodies.....now, I like Bob Chic but he uses machines predominantly and compare his physique to newcomer Johnny O. Jackson who lifts heavy as hell but hasn't been in the game nearly as long............big weights build big muscles, period
 
By controlling the speed of the motion as you perform an exercise you can place new strain on a muscle. A super-slow set will take the maximum contraction point at every angle to new extremes, not only providing extra-gravitational resistance, but carving new striations in your dense muscle tissue. By increasing the speed you are forcing the muscles to lift more weight, technically. The speed factor requires more energy and will give the set a heavier feel. Many pros are known for their faster reps, and it is commonly believed that a truly talented athlete will develop a faster stroke as he matures. This should be the result of increasing strength without adding too much strenuous resistance as is common among power-lifters. So experiment with the rep-speed and explore the benefits of these very hard systems.


I dont know about you guys, but speed = weight. If you have ever read anything about West Side Barbell lifting, they use two days, one for heavy chest one for light chest. Same with there lower body. What i am saying here, is that if you dont have acceltraion off the bottom you will not be able to increase your weight as fast.

You need to treat every set with max effort. I do this all the time, and get i think its only 185 on incline this will b easy, and i dont put forth the effort, by 6 im dead. But i can jump up 20 lbs and just destroy the weight, if i put forth all my effort.
 
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