Training future depends on my bum shoulder

[pimphandstrong]

I've had a bad left shoulder that won't let me bench using an olympic bar at all.

I've been using dumbbells almost exclusively for chest and even learned to use cables.

Today, I tried to do 135 on flat and, sure enough, felt that pain at the bottom of the motion and when I explode up.

I can do about 75% of max on dumbbell incline, so I just do high rep.

This is changing the way I train. It's tough cuz I was making strides in flat and just reached a goal of 225lbs for 20 reps on flat.

I've discovered IGF and am now on hex, but feel I will never touch real gear, as I might reinjure my shoulder during a ridiculous pump-alpha mood.

Kinda like it takes the fun out of it....

 

[Presser]

hey bro i was in the exact same situation, my right shoulder prevented me from doing flat barbell bench for over a year, so i exclusivly used dumbells, and il tell ya what though, my strentgh went through the roof, my chest grew bigger, and after about a year and a couple months, i started back on flat barbell bench and i was way way stronger, and my shoulder was fully heeled from the year i went easy on it just by using dumbells, it was actualy A BLESSING IN DISGUISE! So hopefully the same will hold true for you brutha!

 

[dorian123]

drop the straight bar all together-I have...haven't touched a straight bar in over 10 years-no shit

torn my left rotary cuff wrestling and everytime I would go heavy on the straight bar after that I just ended up rehurting it, so I quit that movement...

now, HAMMER STRENGTH INCLINE- dumbbells- cable cross overs- butterfly and that covers it

Hammer strength incline-4 1/2 plates for reps on each side
dumbbells-160lbs for 6-10 reps in a slow controlled manner
cross overs-usually the entire stack at most gyms
butterfly-same

 

[pimphandstrong]

Thanks Dorian, thanks Press

The original injury occurred playing football in high school 22 years ago (did I just say that?)

Landed on my shoulder tippin' a pass away from a receiver. Never really lifted heavy enough, or long enough to have a bench injury resulting from this.

I believe the last time I hurt it, it was 13 years ago and I was doin' dips.

My max incline db press is 100, so I'm not in your club Dorian, but it's good to know I can strive for somethin.

I can't go higher than 65's right now without feeling like I'm gonna reinjure it.

I could see myself staying away from the straight bat for good. I've lost chest fat using cables and kinda like the different pump, but have noticed that my traps and delts are slightly smaller.

I just resumed running this week, so, maybe I'll just be pretty......

 

[dorian123]

the only thing that I've quit the straight bar on is the bench press
still use it on the other movements

baby the shoulder for a while, if you rehurt it you have to start all over on the waiting process and that's frustrating as hell

 

[jtunderdog]

I have something similar. I use to work for a bottled water company and let the 5 gallon bottles drop full weight from 6-8 feet in the air on my shoulder joint. I would grip them way above my head and pull them out of the truck and just let them fall. My grip strength got much better but I can't do any kind of incline presses with a bar anymore. I do flats and declines but I can only use say 65 pound dumbells for inclines because my shoulder feels like it is going to roll out of socket. Sucks. I can tell you that doing dumbells is better as well. You hit way more stabilizing muscles and I feel like it will stimulate some growth for you.

 

[saudades]

Looks like I'm going to be hitting dumbbells for the next little while. I've been using machines and the smith bar, but it always feels like I'm going to strain my shoulder again.

 

[pimphandstrong]

I know!

I hella miss the smith machine. Nothing puts separation and "caps" on my delts like the Smith.

My pattern is to train until I reach my goal, then quit.

I think my body is just accustomed to quitting around the 9 month mark. I have not reached my goal, though.

I'm trying to be more realistic with my training. I began running this week (at least what I call running), as I realize that I need to keep things fresh and still have to drop a good 8-10% bodyfat.

My muscles have thrived off my fat, but as it has decreased, I'm feelin a bit creaky.

IGF helped. I'll see how this Hex and 176 treat me, but I know I can't hold onto 260lbs forever, regardless of my composition, as my aging body (joints) can only sustain so much.

I appreciate the therapy. Thanks for makin' the pimp feel better.

Where's the Heineken? Say what?! I can't drink that? Damn.....

 

[nuknuk]

I've had a bad left shoulder that won't let me bench using an olympic bar at all.

I've been using dumbbells almost exclusively for chest and even learned to use cables.

Today, I tried to do 135 on flat and, sure enough, felt that pain at the bottom of the motion and when I explode up.

I can do about 75% of max on dumbbell incline, so I just do high rep.

This is changing the way I train. It's tough cuz I was making strides in flat and just reached a goal of 225lbs for 20 reps on flat.

I've discovered IGF and am now on hex, but feel I will never touch real gear, as I might reinjure my shoulder during a ridiculous pump-alpha mood.

Kinda like it takes the fun out of it....

dude cry me a river, I was playing semi-pro football last year and in the first game in June 2008, I fucked my shoulder up very bad. So bad that I couldnt even do a push up or bench press the bar. I even played the rest of the season, and I played linebacker. after the season I just slowly but surley worked on getting my shoulder back in order and decided I wanted to compete as a bodybuilder. And look at me now, looking better than I ever have. IF let that shoulder hold you back its because of your will power. It sill hurts like hell but I train though that shit.

 

[dorian123]

:laugh: that's funny that you should say that-when i fucked up my shoulder I was still going to submission wrestling practice- everything from my elbow to half way down my rib cage was a giant bruise...
about the only thing I could really do was work on my foot work, body balance, and guard. wasn't about to sit out and miss something...

 

[Chris250]

Pimp,

I would just focus on the movements you can do..If you can do DB incline press then do those and slow the reps waaaay down..do a 4 second negative or something like that...IGF and HGH would help heal the shoulder, and even AAS would help to (Deca, EQ) and even a basic test (250mg wk) and deca (200mg wk) would do wonders to help heal the shoulder...IMO