HardcorePowders
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If you choose to use PEG beware.. worst taste you will ever taste in your life.. i promise lol..
Oral Liquid Recipes
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bigdaddyo1617
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Good fucking post
Millennial Monster
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Are you planning on doing any orals besides proviron daddyo? You start your cycle in two days right?
yeah bump it up, I don't think its needed personally in any brews, anyone wanna elaborate for us
Here at work I have limited access due to nannyfilter but according to wiki has fair write up on it, but it is wiki lolo
Polyethylene glycol and from everything I can find here at work and seems to be used for a bunch of stuff from skin creams to paintball fills.
Hope this helps abit Polyethylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia hers the link if you want
Polyethylene glycol and from everything I can find here at work and seems to be used for a bunch of stuff from skin creams to paintball fills.
Hope this helps abit Polyethylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia hers the link if you want
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Medical uses[/h] PEG is the basis of a number of laxatives (e.g., macrogol-containing products, such as Movicol and polyethylene glycol 3350, or SoftLax, MiraLAX,ClearLAX, Osmolax or GlycoLax). Whole bowel irrigation with polyethylene glycol and added electrolytes is used for bowel preparation before surgery or colonoscopy. The preparation is sold under the brand names GoLYTELY, GaviLyte C, NuLytely, GlycoLax, Fortrans, TriLyte, Colyte, Halflytely, Softlax, Lax-a-Day, ClearLax and MoviPrep. In the United States, MiraLAX and Dulcolax Balance are sold without prescription for short-term relief of chronic constipation. Miralax is currently FDA approved for adults for a period of seven days, and is not approved for children.[SUP][6][/SUP] A 2007 comparison showed that patients suffering from constipation had a better response to PEG medications than to tegaserod.[SUP][7][/SUP] These medications soften the fecal mass by osmotically drawing water into the GI tract. It is generally well tolerated, however, side effects are possible bloating, nausea, gas, and diarrhea (with excessive use).
When attached to various protein medications, polyethylene glycol allows a slowed clearance of the carried protein from the blood. This makes for a longer-acting medicinal effect and reduces toxicity, and allows longer dosing intervals. Examples include PEG-interferon alpha, which is used to treat hepatitis C, and PEGfilgrastim (Neulasta), which is used to treat neutropenia. It has been shown that polyethylene glycol can improve healing of spinal injuries in dogs.[SUP][8][/SUP] One of the earlier findings, that polyethylene glycol can aid in nerve repair, came from the University of Texas (Krause and Bittner).[SUP][9][/SUP] Polyethylene glycol is also commonly used to fuse B-cells with myeloma cells in monoclonal antibody production.
PEG is used as an excipient in many pharmaceutical products. Lower-molecular-weight variants are used as solvents in oral liquids and soft capsules, whereas solid variants are used as ointment bases, tablet binders, film coatings, and lubricants.[SUP][10][/SUP]
PEG is also used in lubricating eye drops.
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Medical uses[/h] PEG is the basis of a number of laxatives (e.g., macrogol-containing products, such as Movicol and polyethylene glycol 3350, or SoftLax, MiraLAX,ClearLAX, Osmolax or GlycoLax). Whole bowel irrigation with polyethylene glycol and added electrolytes is used for bowel preparation before surgery or colonoscopy. The preparation is sold under the brand names GoLYTELY, GaviLyte C, NuLytely, GlycoLax, Fortrans, TriLyte, Colyte, Halflytely, Softlax, Lax-a-Day, ClearLax and MoviPrep. In the United States, MiraLAX and Dulcolax Balance are sold without prescription for short-term relief of chronic constipation. Miralax is currently FDA approved for adults for a period of seven days, and is not approved for children.[SUP][6][/SUP] A 2007 comparison showed that patients suffering from constipation had a better response to PEG medications than to tegaserod.[SUP][7][/SUP] These medications soften the fecal mass by osmotically drawing water into the GI tract. It is generally well tolerated, however, side effects are possible bloating, nausea, gas, and diarrhea (with excessive use).
When attached to various protein medications, polyethylene glycol allows a slowed clearance of the carried protein from the blood. This makes for a longer-acting medicinal effect and reduces toxicity, and allows longer dosing intervals. Examples include PEG-interferon alpha, which is used to treat hepatitis C, and PEGfilgrastim (Neulasta), which is used to treat neutropenia. It has been shown that polyethylene glycol can improve healing of spinal injuries in dogs.[SUP][8][/SUP] One of the earlier findings, that polyethylene glycol can aid in nerve repair, came from the University of Texas (Krause and Bittner).[SUP][9][/SUP] Polyethylene glycol is also commonly used to fuse B-cells with myeloma cells in monoclonal antibody production.
PEG is used as an excipient in many pharmaceutical products. Lower-molecular-weight variants are used as solvents in oral liquids and soft capsules, whereas solid variants are used as ointment bases, tablet binders, film coatings, and lubricants.[SUP][10][/SUP]
PEG is also used in lubricating eye drops.
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Powderguy
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Ive been working with this recipe to improve it.
OLD RECIPE
Anavar:
Highest concentration made - 20mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Oxandrolone powder you will need:
9.8 ml's of PEG 300
39.2 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
I heated the grain alcohol and dissolved the var in it, unfortunately not all the VAR dissolves like it should. I then slowly added the PEG 300 and swirled it, still not dissolved. My solution was to mortar and pedestal the powder as fine as I could (remember its oral so this isn't a concern) after I did that and tried it again the same way it completely dissolved. I displaced 1 ml of grain alcohol for 1 gram of kool aide packet fruit punch. Gave it a not so bad kick at 6am and at 6pm lol
OLD RECIPE
Anavar:
Highest concentration made - 20mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Oxandrolone powder you will need:
9.8 ml's of PEG 300
39.2 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
I heated the grain alcohol and dissolved the var in it, unfortunately not all the VAR dissolves like it should. I then slowly added the PEG 300 and swirled it, still not dissolved. My solution was to mortar and pedestal the powder as fine as I could (remember its oral so this isn't a concern) after I did that and tried it again the same way it completely dissolved. I displaced 1 ml of grain alcohol for 1 gram of kool aide packet fruit punch. Gave it a not so bad kick at 6am and at 6pm lol
IronJulius
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i so wish this was easier lol wife wants var and its driving me crazy. from the sound of it peg 300 taste like ________ fill in the blank
THE 67
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you can also use humco compounding suspension vehile for ur orals,,, tastes like candy 50% peg 300 & 50% humco.... easy as tht... shake every time u dose.. vigorously
or straight glycerin as well .
u could even leave the peg out and use just humco as well... heres the link
http://www.theonlinedrugstore.com/h...J6nYp6_uD2N7ur5yGgNxKX5KqidJqWLvqehoCgmDw_wcB
or straight glycerin as well .
u could even leave the peg out and use just humco as well... heres the link
http://www.theonlinedrugstore.com/h...J6nYp6_uD2N7ur5yGgNxKX5KqidJqWLvqehoCgmDw_wcB
THE 67
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COOL POWDER ON THE CORN SYRUP.. I DIDNT EVEN THINK OF THT METHOD... THANKS FOR THE INFO ON THT... AND YES THE GLYCERIN DOES FALL OUT OF SUSPENSION... IF USING ALONE,, I HAVE TO SHAKE EVERY TIME I DOSE.. BUT WHEN I USE 50/50 GLY & 190 WITH & HEATED IT.. IT SEEMED TO STAY IN SUSPENSION FOR THE MOST PART.. OF COURSE I HAD TO SHAKE IT TO FULLY RE-SUSPEND IT BUT IT HELD BETTER THEN JUST STR.GLY... INTERESTING ON THE CORN SYRUP THOUGH.. IM GOING TO HAVE TO TRY THT SOMETIME.... MAYBE WITH SOME HUMCO FOR HIGH CONCENTRATIONS...
Just go with the Humco Syrpalta or cherry simple syrup. These are used for pharmacy oral suspensIons. Just sd d raw and shake. Dosing is dead on. I guess if you wanted to be sure it stayed that way and no shaking maybe add a small amount of surfactant but honestly it likekybhas it in there abd imo every liquid oral should be shaken before use.
I have also been using pure glycerine for a long time. I use to just add raw and shake but glycerine thins well when warmed and some orals like dbol are very easily heated into solutiojbwith it burn things like var the melting point is so high and even winny that it's difficult.
But powder guy makes a good point as always. The best thing you can do when making any liquid oral is to micronize it with a mortar and pestle. There are a lot of different types out so look at what you are chiding first but you can buy then in most any natural Foods store or most large retail grocery stores like Wal-Mart . EBay of course but I Luke to see exactly what I'm getting in this situation. The Dane is true if you are making injectable winny, test, var suspensions or even oil based winny,tne,dbol,drol inject. It will go into solution easier when micorinized with a mortar and pestle . For any suspension , injectable, I add ps80, or another surfactant and it will generally hold similar to a solution but completely different. Lol meaning test suspension will hold as that milky white without falling out ajfbhavijg a complete separation. But I filter 1ml at a time shake and continue.
But this is an oral thread. Try some of the liquid water flavorings if using peg and alchohol but honestly nothing is going to top that alcohol taste or burn and many times you end up with a worse taste than you started with.
I'm a big fan of the humco products simply because the pharmacies will compound strong meds like vicodin for 2 yr olds after surgery. My daughter had this after a surgery which after one dose she never got again. That was a bad experience but if it's safe enough on dosing regimen's for a pharmacy with something like that I consider it good enough to accurately make an oral.
And a quick tip for caps A. Either used a burr mill to mix your raw abd filler or B. Simply herb some mg scoops that measure the exact dose like 25mg and its dead on for several orals it's quick to set up a capper and fill each with a mg scoop so you know each is dosed exact then fill with glutamine or your filler of choice.
I have also been using pure glycerine for a long time. I use to just add raw and shake but glycerine thins well when warmed and some orals like dbol are very easily heated into solutiojbwith it burn things like var the melting point is so high and even winny that it's difficult.
But powder guy makes a good point as always. The best thing you can do when making any liquid oral is to micronize it with a mortar and pestle. There are a lot of different types out so look at what you are chiding first but you can buy then in most any natural Foods store or most large retail grocery stores like Wal-Mart . EBay of course but I Luke to see exactly what I'm getting in this situation. The Dane is true if you are making injectable winny, test, var suspensions or even oil based winny,tne,dbol,drol inject. It will go into solution easier when micorinized with a mortar and pestle . For any suspension , injectable, I add ps80, or another surfactant and it will generally hold similar to a solution but completely different. Lol meaning test suspension will hold as that milky white without falling out ajfbhavijg a complete separation. But I filter 1ml at a time shake and continue.
But this is an oral thread. Try some of the liquid water flavorings if using peg and alchohol but honestly nothing is going to top that alcohol taste or burn and many times you end up with a worse taste than you started with.
I'm a big fan of the humco products simply because the pharmacies will compound strong meds like vicodin for 2 yr olds after surgery. My daughter had this after a surgery which after one dose she never got again. That was a bad experience but if it's safe enough on dosing regimen's for a pharmacy with something like that I consider it good enough to accurately make an oral.
And a quick tip for caps A. Either used a burr mill to mix your raw abd filler or B. Simply herb some mg scoops that measure the exact dose like 25mg and its dead on for several orals it's quick to set up a capper and fill each with a mg scoop so you know each is dosed exact then fill with glutamine or your filler of choice.
Body Mechanic
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My question is, if you use something like Humco liquid oral solution, do you need to mix anything else besides the raw powder with it? I've been using 50% Humco, 20% PGA and 30% Sugar Water.
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