Raw powder grades and information

THE 67 said:
also what i understood as well tht the last step of the chemical process in manufacturing the raws ,,(WHICH IS CALLED ESTERIFICATION) is skipped in order to save time and money production cost,,, leading to having ur raws with acidic compounds in it.. but not all manufactures do this, when searching for a supplier you need to ask them this ..
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Good point however your supplier will not usually know as most get it from the manufacturer and go by what they tell them. When I worked for a bio tech company who manufactured these substances not just steroid powders but many others, there are always steps skipped and cheaper less pure products produced.
Example, how many buy premium gas when regular unleaded does the same thing it just gunks the pistons faster with carbon, but why pay more for premium. This is how they think so premium is costly and usually only made enough for med grade.
 
this is very true POWDERGUY... and i love bio-tech gear.. thts all i ever used when i didnt brew... lol ::) awesome stuff there.. and your right.. its all about producing quantity with them over and at a .ow price for bigger profit margines.. there and not really about quality which is a bummer.. but however i do believe tht there are legitimate suppliers tht send out good raws.... i deal with a few of them and they have always sent me good compounds.. but this has been an issue with the hgh tht is made over there and why its getting so cheap to buy becasue of the skipping steps and corners with a non-sterile enviro.,/
 
Right presser! Were not all big pimpin though brotha..

THE67- most HGH has a short shelf life compared to other available items. It has to be sold/used rather quickly. There are companies that have their own patent on how to produce HGH and there are a few different ways to produce HGH. Cost depends on how long its been since produced, who made it and light exposure.
 
Look at the difference between the two suppliers tren ace.
the darker one is proven good to go. The lighter is from a new source and has"sparkles" like test prop powder has. So I am pretty sure it's cut . Good thing it was free!!
 

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viciouscycle said:
Look at the difference between the two suppliers tren ace.
the darker one is proven good to go. The lighter is from a new source and has"sparkles" like test prop powder has. So I am pretty sure it's cut . Good thing it was free!!
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Is that why?? Back in my home brew days you could do powder.. or you could do the extra step and make crystals... my crystalline stuff sparkled like that and it was no joke! There are rumors that some of this brew is still circulating...
 
I'm not sure, actually was kinda asking if anyone has seen it like that.I just happened to have some prop too and it looks similar. I'll brew and try it when I run tren again.
it's a new source and I'm a little skeptical.
I'll be able to tell pretty quick of its crap.
 
I cant really see the sparkle but I know NPP and Test P both do that. I have not encountered any Tren Ace that is not off white, tren enthanate can be white but usually powdery not sparkly
 
viciouscycle said:
Look at the difference between the two suppliers tren ace.
the darker one is proven good to go. The lighter is from a new source and has"sparkles" like test prop powder has. So I am pretty sure it's cut . Good thing it was free!!
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gross,,, deff dosnt look like tren...

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The Dude said:
Is that why?? Back in my home brew days you could do powder.. or you could do the extra step and make crystals... my crystalline stuff sparkled like that and it was no joke! There are rumors that some of this brew is still circulating...
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its called salting .... thr forming of crystals,, not growing them.. :)
 
BEASTZ6 said:
Why would you want to crystalize?
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When you take the time to do crystals it's super pure. Only the actual steroid will form a crystal, everything else is washed away. I also had much better success making high mg/ml concentrations without crashing by taking the time to do crystals

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The Dude said:
When you take the time to do crystals it's super pure. Only the actual steroid will form a crystal, everything else is washed away. I also had much better success making high mg/ml concentrations without crashing by taking the time to do crystals

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so if this salting (forming of crystals) is better than how do u go about doing this ???
 
viciouscycle said:
Look at the difference between the two suppliers tren ace.
the darker one is proven good to go. The lighter is from a new source and has"sparkles" like test prop powder has. So I am pretty sure it's cut . Good thing it was free!!
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Tren Ace should always be a light yellow color. All Tren Ace I have had is/was, some have more crystals than others, but all light yellow
 
The Dude said:
Is that why?? Back in my home brew days you could do powder.. or you could do the extra step and make crystals... my crystalline stuff sparkled like that and it was no joke! There are rumors that some of this brew is still circulating...
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Cain you explain how do you proceed please? :)
 
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