This is very close to what my personal protocol has been for over three years. 250 iu every third day give or take. Beats the he’ll out of shrunken testixcles. Be aware of a possible e2 spike. Have anti e in hand. I endorse this protocol fwiw. I am 48 and don’t come off anymore.
 
Has anyone tried to inject HCG directly into the testicles ? folks on the net swear it works wonders and is much more effective. Is that true ? what is the danger with this approach ? thanks.
 
Anyone using HCG while on prescribed TRT. I know some docs prescribe it instead of Test E. I am already prescribed Test E 120mg/wk. wondering if adding HCG has merit.


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Gotcha, well for the younger guys who still want kids and everyone else who cycles on and off then yes HCG is a must but once your prescribed TRT , I can’t think of a single reason you’d want to use HCG as well in all honesty.

trt is for life ya know, or until your too old to give a fuck anymore lol
 
Gotcha, well for the younger guys who still want kids and everyone else who cycles on and off then yes HCG is a must but once your prescribed TRT , I can’t think of a single reason you’d want to use HCG as well in all honesty.

trt is for life ya know, or until your too old to give a fuck anymore lol

lol ya, the latter...


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This is a great write up. If using HCG during the cycle, is the dose dependent on the size/body weight of the person or is it the same for everyone? For example under 200lbs would take 200iu-250iu EOD or E3D, and over 200lbs would take 250iu-500iu EOD or E3D? Or is it more of individual response and sensitivity to the HCG, and we just have to find our individual sweet spot within that range of dosages?

Also, when using HCG while on injectable testosterone and/or other AAS, could continued HCG use cause desensitization and tolerance whereby overtime the HCG becomes less and less effective and eventually useless? Or does no desensitization occur and the effectiveness remains the same with continued dosing?
 
This is a great write up. If using HCG during the cycle, is the dose dependent on the size/body weight of the person or is it the same for everyone? For example under 200lbs would take 200iu-250iu EOD or E3D, and over 200lbs would take 250iu-500iu EOD or E3D? Or is it more of individual response and sensitivity to the HCG, and we just have to find our individual sweet spot within that range of dosages?

Also, when using HCG while on injectable testosterone and/or other AAS, could continued HCG use cause desensitization and tolerance whereby overtime the HCG becomes less and less effective and eventually useless? Or does no desensitization occur and the effectiveness remains the same with continued dosing?


i guess the desensitization would depend on how long you planned to use it. its a great question and as long as you keep your cycles between 16 to 20 weeks i wouldnt think youd become desensitized to it much. especially with a nice break inbetween cycles. Thats the real challenge lol, but you dont lose nearly as much of your gains when you use hcg throughout cycle, so its definitely worth it
 
i guess the desensitization would depend on how long you planned to use it. its a great question and as long as you keep your cycles between 16 to 20 weeks i wouldnt think youd become desensitized to it much. especially with a nice break inbetween cycles. Thats the real challenge lol, but you dont lose nearly as much of your gains when you use hcg throughout cycle, so its definitely worth it

That makes more sense and I definitely agree taking a break after a cycle (ie time on = time off) is very practical from a health, longevity, and fertility stand point. So is it safe to assume then that caution regarding HCG usage while on TRT or blasting and cruising causing desensitization/down-regulation of the Leydig cells and/or Sertoli cells in the testes stems from being perpetually on cycle and trying to perpetually maintain testicular function by using HCG continually alongside the exogenous androgen use?
 
That makes more sense and I definitely agree taking a break after a cycle (ie time on = time off) is very practical from a health, longevity, and fertility stand point. So is it safe to assume then that caution regarding HCG usage while on TRT or blasting and cruising causing desensitization/down-regulation of the Leydig cells and/or Sertoli cells in the testes stems from being perpetually on cycle and trying to perpetually maintain testicular function by using HCG continually alongside the exogenous androgen use?


I would imagine that’s the reasoning overall and I’ll have to take your world for it in regards to your breaking it down as far as the leydig and Sertoli cells lol I can only broadly speak on it through experience but it appears your better versed in specific mechanisms and all that jazz lol

im just a bodybuilder man lmao
 
I would imagine that’s the reasoning overall and I’ll have to take your world for it in regards to your breaking it down as far as the leydig and Sertoli cells lol I can only broadly speak on it through experience but it appears your better versed in specific mechanisms and all that jazz lol

im just a bodybuilder man lmao

It's been a while for me and I'm playing catch up with all the new info and options that are available now with regards to classic AAS, designer AAS, HGH, peptides, PCT ancillaries, E2 ancillaries, etc. I just want to make sure I'm all caught up before I dip my toe back in the water. Thank you, and I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions!
 
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