Replies from this post should be interesting.

[PUMPED]

I will never understand why people complicate things as much as they do - and that goes for trainers just as much as trainees. If you are using any amount of AAS, what you will gain from using something like creatine or adding another 5g of BCAAs per day? It's a waste of time and money. I understand the mentaility: "everything adds up" and that is right; it adds up pulling money out of your wallet and it puts the focus on yet something else you think you need to take while on AAS.

Throw glutamine, creatine, and most other shit sold at GNC in the trash and save your money. Get good workouts without a crutch and get real growth and progress by relying on the things that actually produce real results - AAS, nutrition, training and recovery.

 

[cloudstrife1218]

I will never understand why people complicate things as much as they do - and that goes for trainers just as much as trainees. If you are using any amount of AAS, what you will gain from using something like creatine or adding another 5g of BCAAs per day? It's a waste of time and money. I understand the mentaility: "everything adds up" and that is right; it adds up pulling money out of your wallet and it puts the focus on yet something else you think you need to take while on AAS.

Throw glutamine, creatine, and most other shit sold at GNC in the trash and save your money. Get good workouts without a crutch and get real growth and progress by relying on the things that actually produce real results - AAS, nutrition, training and recovery.

Couldn't agree more. The supplement industry is complete garbage. Pre workout, post workout, its all garbage. If you want creatine, eat a damn steak. If you need more protein, eat more meat, i mean its really not hard. People chuck their money at these companies like its going out of style. But i don't blame the companies, they are out to get a profit, and they definitely get one.

 

[Mountain_Man]

Only supp I buy is whey

 

[THE GRU]

Love my muscletech during work out and my protien supporting supps ... But FOOOOOOOOD. REAL FOOOOOOOOD , ie chicken, veg, HB eggs, nuts and etc mmmmm

 

[yellow snow]

Throw glutamine, creatine, and most other shit sold at GNC in the trash and save your money. Get good workouts without a crutch and get real growth and progress by relying on the things that actually produce real results - AAS, nutrition, training and recovery.

So let me get this straight glutamine, creatine and shit sold at GNC are a crutch, but AAS is not......................am I reading this wrong, if not that is pretty damn funny!

 

[Iron Game]

Great post. I like my bcaa's around my workout and my whey. I don't feel like I eat enough but I couldn't agree more with most of what GNC sells. Overpriced, garbage! I wouldn't buy the suppliments I do take at GNC it's just priced so high

 

[Iron Game]

Great post. I like my bcaa's around my workout and my whey. I don't feel like I eat enough but I couldn't agree more with most of what GNC sells. Overpriced, garbage! I wouldn't buy the suppliments I do take at GNC it's just priced so high

For a bridge I ad just plain old creatine Monohydrate

 

[EMW14]

It's funny this came up just now, because I was just getting ready to start a thread asking if anyone uses glutamine.

My wife's trainer and nutritionist has her taking 30g of the stuff a day and said anyone over 40 who's training should be. They are both 100% natural.

So I decided to try it. Now for context and to relate this specifically to PUMPED's original post, I am only on a TRT dose of test and nothing else in the way of AAS. A TRT dose for me is anywhere from 175 to 250 mg a week depending on where it came from (pharmacy vs "elsewhere" - I find the pharmacy supplied test MUCH stronger than the UGL variety). I'm 5-10, 200 and roughly 10 or 11%.

The glutamine at that dose is VERY effective at reducing muscle soreness from workouts. It provides a serious boost in energy without the jitters. However, it also got so it was causing sleep problems, and I developed a twitch in one tricep, which may or may not have been related. I cut the dose in half, to 15g a day and still had problems sleeping and still had the twitch. Stayed off it until the sleep problem went away, and eventually the tricep twitch also went away. I'm thinking the twitch may have been simple fatigue (been working a lot the last 7 or so months and really dragging ass). I've started to reintroduce the glutamine at more like 10g a day and see what happens.

I'm not sure what else it's supposed to do besides the energy and muscle soreness? My wife reports no sleep problems from it, and she's been taking 30g a day for 7 or 8 weeks now. Her trainer also reports no effect on sleep (both female, maybe obviously, lol).

I had been taking creatine a couple years ago, I think at 5g a day, and really didn't notice any effect from it one way or the other, except a little bloating. I am gluten intolerant, so it's possible that may have been the cause of the bloating ,if there was some gluten in the creatine...

So, curious to hear others' experience.....

 

[EMW14]

I also use a whey protein supp, a post workout drink which is carbs, BCAA's and some protien. Those two only on workout days unless I need a quick "snack" to stave off malnutrition for an hour or two; then I'll miss up the whey protien in milk and throw a cup of oats in with it. I also take a multi.

I eat a ton, usually 6 meals a day, all of them clean. Well, for the most part. Primarily lean meats, veggies and either rice (usually brown, sometimes white) or potatoes.

 

[mmajake]

On cycle I 100% agree only supp I use while on is whey. Pct and bridge however is slightly different for me. I add in creatine, BCAA and pre workout to give me that edge in the gym.

 

[PUMPED]

So let me get this straight glutamine, creatine and shit sold at GNC are a crutch, but AAS is not......................am I reading this wrong, if not that is pretty damn funny!

Everything is a crutch bro. I just don't see the point of adding/spending extra money on over the counter supps while on AAS other then protein powder.

 

[yellow snow]

Everything is a crutch bro. I just don't see the point of adding/spending extra money on over the counter supps while on AAS other then protein powder.

I guess it was the terminology of "crutch" that I found hypocritical.

Your right food food is the most anabolic "crutch" I use daily