Need information Really bad

Bro's I need help!!!!! I have to kick this acne on my chest and shoulders.

I was on a heavy blast for about 16 weeks without problems. Then dropped to cruise of test/tren 225/225/week for about 14 weeks without too much problem. Then I dropped the tren and ran just test at 225/week and BOOM, I got around a couple hundred acne bumps in just a few days. It seems to only be concentrated around my shoulders and chest and the little bumps develop into more and more nastier zits. Then some turn to hard ass spots with nothing in them and hang around for years. Its now to the point where I have a kick ass body and cant take off my shirt. I'm 35 and never had anything like this growing up. Really bro's this looks bad and obvious, I could be a poster boy for an anti-steroid campaign. I've got all this knowledge of training, diet, and gear, but know nothing about not getting these breakouts.

I'm really wanting to start my next blast but have to get this under control. It got worse when cruising on test only for 8 weeks (after 14 weeks of low test/tren), now its getting even worse since I've dropped to totally clean for the last 2 weeks. I'm not sure if it wouldn't stop if I started blasting again.

Someone please explain to me whats going on!!!!!

This is WAY beyond advice of taking more showers or using acne medicine or going to the tanning bed, its REALLY out of control and I'm lost. The heavyweight bbr's don't have this problem or they could never get on stage, so something I'm doing is wrong. The only thing I haven't tried as medicine is acutane, which I will consider but these flare ups are crazy quick and seem to last forever, even years when I was cycling.

Whats going on???????????? I thought this time around running a anti-e would help but it seemed to make no differance.

For the love of God, someone help for I blow my brains out.

cant none of us help you. Go to the doctor and quit whining. Not trying to be a dick, but damn if something is that bad, you think a bunch of meatheads sitting at their computer is going to help? Go to the Doctor!!

My doc gave doxycycline 100mg. Worked FAST. Did not come back. I took 100mg twice a day for 1 week then one a day for 2 weeks. When you go for clinical treatment of acne-vulgarus there is a 3 part approach. benzo, syslic acid, and antibiotics. I had tried everything else but the meds. Maby you can get some online or your family doc will do.

nuknuk said:

cant none of us help you. Go to the doctor and quit whining. Not trying to be a dick, but damn if something is that bad, you think a bunch of meatheads sitting at their computer is going to help? Go to the Doctor!!

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I don't have insurance, also a derm doc here takes about 6 mos. for an appointment. I don't believe a doctor has as much knowledge about prevention of steroid abuse related acne as some meatheads might and is also going to say stop using. I was looking for more of an answer like when your hormones are changing up from high to low heres whats going on, estrogen, progest., and so forth but thanks for your opinion.

Anyone with insight why this happens and how to combat it want to chime in? It seems to always be much worse when dropping tren rather than test. Maybe I stated the question wrong, I'll deal with getting rid of the current acne, but I'd like to prevent the huge flare up to begin with. Not really asking about what acne meds to take. It comes on so fast I don't think any acne meds would prevent it.

nuknuk said:

cant none of us help you. Go to the doctor and quit whining. Not trying to be a dick, but damn if something is that bad, you think a bunch of meatheads sitting at their computer is going to help? Go to the Doctor!!

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LMAO, nice one Nuk Nuk. I was thinking the same thing. Do a search and find out what will help.

Big JC

Go to you CVS/Walgreens and look for any topical creams that have 1% benzol peroxide in it. It might not work as fast as prescribed medication but it will help. Also if you have to order some backtrum(sp)? It kills the acne causing bacteria from the inside out the same way tetracycline does from the inside out only a couple hundred times faster. I used to have really bad back acne and that was the only thing that work. Good luck man, btw this is what a derm will prescribe you more then likely anyway.

Guys thanks for all the advice on how to help beat the existing acne.

As for the source of my problem does anyone know what causes these outbreaks???????????????????????

I didn't use clomid or nolva because I'm staying on cruise. I did use an anti-e while on which worked great for water and seemed to keep estrogen at bay. I've never tried anti-p, maybe this would help?

Once again, its not a side from being on for me, its a side from coming off. Something is way off balance to cause this and I'm just wondering which hormone it is and if I can combat it. I thought coming down slowly from blasting to cruising would help to balance these hormones but it didn't.

I would think some experienced users would have faced these same issues and could help explain why these outbreaks occur when coming off. I'll do more research but there seems to be little information.

its your anterior pituitary gland going nuts

Your anterior pituitary controls Lh and FSH which both respectively control your body's test, estrogen levels since you came off slowly and didn't use nolva or w/e else you mentioned its working double overtime in responce to the EXTREMLY low test levels. Thats why ur breaking out like a highschool that ate a whole chocolate cake bro. Its about your bodys reaction to the huge surge in negative feed back.

if you tan don't use the beds they are fucking nasty and I don't care how many times they clean them-use a stand up

I had some acne like you describe--some that just don't seem to want to go away. Doxycycline doesn't seem to do anything for me, but when I used a topical agent--Differin, I was finally able to get it under control.

I agree with the pituitary gland comment. Your body is trying to readjust and to be honest it is just really out of whack. Clomid makes me break out something fierce and nothing helped it either.

You could aso take ABT profalacticly.

accutane. Its the ONLY thing that hekped me. I tried doxy, nizoral, retin A, and every other body wash you can think of. Actuane. Find a source for powder ( dont ask me) and make your own suspended in PEG 300.

optimalbalance said:

Guys thanks for all the advice on how to help beat the existing acne.

As for the source of my problem does anyone know what causes these outbreaks???????????????????????

I didn't use clomid or nolva because I'm staying on cruise. I did use an anti-e while on which worked great for water and seemed to keep estrogen at bay. I've never tried anti-p, maybe this would help?

Once again, its not a side from being on for me, its a side from coming off. Something is way off balance to cause this and I'm just wondering which hormone it is and if I can combat it. I thought coming down slowly from blasting to cruising would help to balance these hormones but it didn't.

I would think some experienced users would have faced these same issues and could help explain why these outbreaks occur when coming off. I'll do more research but there seems to be little information.

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About not taking it nolva or clomid on a boat- don't get yourself in a bind in the future- buy the liquid and place it in the travel shampoo bottles.

irishhammer said:

Your anterior pituitary controls Lh and FSH which both respectively control your body's test, estrogen levels since you came off slowly and didn't use nolva or w/e else you mentioned its working double overtime in responce to the EXTREMLY low test levels. Thats why ur breaking out like a highschool that ate a whole chocolate cake bro. Its about your bodys reaction to the huge surge in negative feed back.

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Bro, thanks a bunch. This is the kind of response I was looking for. I'm not sure at the momment what all that means but it gives me a great place to begin researching. It always seems to really happen badly when dropping tren. I wasn't planning on coming off at all but when I dropped the tren out of my cruise I blew up with hundreds of zits a few days after the ace left my body. Thats why I'm in freak mode and also dropped the test 2 weeks ago.

So is it safe to say I'd be OK hitting up my next blast and just treating this existing acne?

It almost feels going back on hard will combat these new outbreaks. I'm really ready to start back but just didn't want this problem getting more out of control.

Also, I'll do some research but is there a way to avoid this when doing blast and cruise?

MMX2 said:

About not taking it nolva or clomid on a boat- don't get yourself in a bind in the future- buy the liquid and place it in the travel shampoo bottles.

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MMX, I'm really confused about the boat thing. Anyway I've known you around for a long time now and know you know your shitz. Anyway I have both Nolva and Clomid liquid on hand but didn't use either because I'm C&B. Should I use any for cruising? I thought Clomid would make matters worse.

h8tr3d said:

accutane. Its the ONLY thing that hekped me. I tried doxy, nizoral, retin A, and every other body wash you can think of. Actuane. Find a source for powder ( dont ask me) and make your own suspended in PEG 300.

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I'm really considering accutane for existing problems but have concerns of what it actually does to your liver as I need to go back on blast. Maybe I should start it a couple weeks before my next cruise.

optimalbalance said:

MMX, I'm really confused about the boat thing. Anyway I've known you around for a long time now and know you know your shitz. Anyway I have both Nolva and Clomid liquid on hand but didn't use either because I'm C&B. Should I use any for cruising? I thought Clomid would make matters worse.

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I think MMX misunderstood you, you mean by cruising a bridge between your cycles correct? If im wrong then I too am confused I think MMx thinks your going on cruises like to the Bahamas or Alaska ect.. as for your latter post if my theory is correct if you got back on test you might stop breaking out, but really you would be delaying yet another crash and zit fest. You would probably be better off getting all your test/estro levels back to normal before starting another cycle man.

optimalbalance said:

I'm really considering accutane for existing problems but have concerns of what it actually does to your liver as I need to go back on blast. Maybe I should start it a couple weeks before my next cruise.

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its been like over 6 weeks to finally start seeing results for me. Thats the only thing that kinda sucks